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socialsecurity posted:My experience from before is that "do everything classes" get shoved to the side, I remember early WoW days being a Shaman nobody would bring me on Raids because I couldn't tank as well as a warrior/Heal as well as a cleric/Dps as well as a rogue I am concerned with the same thing happening to the Engy. Manifest Dynasty posted:But all classes are designed as dual role classes in Wildstar? That just means none of them will be brought to raids until Carbine gives us the proper specialist classes we can use for endgame 
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Minsky posted:I don't know much about paths but I hear you can buy different hats for the scientist scanbot that follows you around so that's the one I'm picking. Why can't I give my engineer bots this hat? 
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May 30, 2014 18:02
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are we still rolling on pergo or has that changed?
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May 30, 2014 18:05
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Asema posted:are we still rolling on pergo or has that changed? Check the section in the OP with all the flashing sirens called "WILDSTAR GOONS" that explains this.
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May 30, 2014 18:08
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Asema posted:are we still rolling on pergo or has that changed? *checks the OP*
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Zoness posted:I believe barring some classes being percentages behind every class is viable endgame in the roles that they are said to be able to do on the official site, although Medic and Spellslinger are IIRC more focused on tank heals while Esper is more of a raid healer. Zudrag posted:Weird, I would have thought with the medic being so mobile they'd be a raid healer. Medic's best described as a melee healer. Best guess at raid role - you'll probably get the best results if you're healing a reasonably-sized cluster of meleers that includes the tank. From experience in dungeons, things get hairy for the medic when you need to run over and heal an esper or spellslinger off in the distance. Those two classes in particular are going to have to be pretty proactive about standing in the heals when medics are healing, come to think of it.
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This sig is from 4/29 so I'm not sure if this is still the guild he/she plans on joining:FranbunnyFFXII posted:~Franbunny Alice "FranBunnyFFXII" Viera - Viera and Aurin lover~ But if it is, Team Legacy is an Exile guild on Pergo... Tholias fucked around with this message at 18:18 on May 30, 2014 |
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The biggest drawback to scientist imo is that it requires a poo poo-ton of clicking on stuff, which if you want to use Steer and keybind an attack to leftmouse kind of wrecks the whole experience. Hopefully my spellslinger-explorer will be minimally awkward to play that way.
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May 30, 2014 18:11
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Tholias posted:This sig is from 4/29 so I'm not sure if this is still the guild he/she plans on joining: Who the gently caress has a nickname that IS their name. Also, this just in Fran, just because you put Fran Alice Viera on the person it's being shipped to on a delivery doesn't make it your legal name!
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You can rename the Scientist bot but not Engineer bots, get on this poo poo Carbine.
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Dropbear posted:Anyone have any idea about class roles in the endgame - can you conceivably heal as a spellslinger or tank as a stalker in raids and whatever-veteran-elite dungeons there are, or are those just sub-par builds for easy 5-man stuff if you can't get a "proper" medic / warrior? (Reminds me of playing a druid in vanilla WoW, because hey, bears can tank! Yeah, that didn't happen.)  There really need to be another column titled "shield healing" and espers and spellslingers get 0 because it's a medic thing. 
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May 30, 2014 18:15
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Pwnstar posted:You can rename the Scientist bot but not Engineer bots, get on this poo poo Carbine. I don't care about any skills being retuned, first thing engineer needs is to be able to customise and rename their bots. Everything else with the class go on the backburner for all I care.
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straw man posted:Medic's best described as a melee healer. Best guess at raid role - you'll probably get the best results if you're healing a reasonably-sized cluster of meleers that includes the tank. From experience in dungeons, things get hairy for the medic when you need to run over and heal an esper or spellslinger off in the distance. When I was running dungeons on the spellslinger in closed beta, I always had Void Slip on my bars. It's probably the most useful button you can have, because you can pop it in a bad situation and just be okay. If you're a medic and the spellslinger in your group is about to die, it's pretty much entirely on them to get to where the healing is, don't go chasing them down because you probably won't catch them if they're really dodging. Between Void slip and Gate, there's basically no reason they can't make it over to your healing poo on the ground. The one thing I'm not sure of about void slip is whether or not a healer can target you while you're slipped out. It seems to remove you from everything for the duration, and you can't actually see anything while you're void slipped, so I don't think the healer can target you with heals, so if you have a dot and are about to die void slipping probably isn't your best option.
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I just want to say an personal thank you to the people that made this game possible!! Really, thank you!! This game has kept me soooooooooooooooo' busy thinking, that I have not even have had the chance to be really sad over really anything. I am not going to say that this game has CHANGED my life in any huge way but this game sure has been an huge haven to put my energy into. I got a strong feeling that this game will be even MORE BIG than games like World Of Warcraft!! Honestly, I bet this game HAS changed SOME people's lives hugely in some way or another..like, I saw that this game has kept a mother occupied allowing her less time to aimlessly worry about her son going off to war. Even if this whole game somehow tanks for some odd reason, I am happy that I have had the chance to be a part of beta and stuff!! I think this will be my longest post on here yet, that is how much I am thankful to all of the Devs' and everyone that made this game even POSSIBLE. Some people may say this is just a simple game but I highly disagree. Soon, this MMORPG will officially become live and I am just simply excited to see where everything leads from there. I honestly predict bright things for this game's future, thank you.. I could honestly go on & on ALL day and night about how/why I am thankful to the people that made this game but I think you all got the point and plus I think things that are short and sweet are always better personally.  CHEERS!!Are you thankful to NCSOFT/Carbine for any reason, fellow members?? Why or why not???? Please be respectful!!
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I may be a simple PR guy with barely existent Photoshop skills, but the PvE guild on Evindra now has art. Edit: Base image from http://shaqdown.com/ Maxmaps fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 30, 2014 |
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Please source your gamers.txt. So that we can all go find our own gamers.txt. Maxmaps posted:I may be a simple PR guy with barely existent Photoshop skills, but the PvE guild on Evindra now has art. It's perfect.
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Yup, that loving owns.
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Bauxite posted:Please source your gamers.txt. So that we can all go find our own gamers.txt. https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/54770-thank-you-very-much-carbinencsoft/ Maxmaps posted:I may be a simple PR guy with barely existent Photoshop skills, but the PvE guild on Evindra now has art. c'mon and slam and welcome to the jam
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Maxmaps posted:I may be a simple PR guy with barely existent Photoshop skills, but the PvE guild on Evindra now has art. Hell. loving. Yes.
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Maxmaps posted:I may be a simple PR guy with barely existent Photoshop skills, but the PvE guild on Evindra now has art. This is
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH4NbO74A1k
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The Stalkers "low armor" and "high deflect" bars just make me think they'll be a horrible thing to heal in raid instances. Just the fact that their HP bars probably don't move 87% of the fight and then basically the RNG kills them instantly with 2 unlucky hits back to back that actually happen to connect. Yep I'm gonna play a Stalker tank.
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Syrek posted:The Stalkers "low armor" and "high deflect" bars just make me think they'll be a horrible thing to heal in raid instances. It makes me think of Defense tanks on City of Heroes, where every few instance runs the RNG would screw them over and suddenly they'd just instadie while aoeing mobs.
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Maxmaps posted:I may be a simple PR guy with barely existent Photoshop skills, but the PvE guild on Evindra now has art. Who knew Shaq was secretly a  Looking forward to our first dungeon/propaganda video, set to this of course. OK yeah, this one is better.  Syrek posted:The Stalkers "low armor" and "high deflect" bars just make me think they'll be a horrible thing to heal in raid instances. Well, and also you can actually dodge a lot of damage in WS. I would guess that Stalker tanks would be a lot 'busier' then Warrior or Engineer since you can't eat telegraphs as much with them? WarLocke fucked around with this message at 18:48 on May 30, 2014 |
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Normal Adult Human posted:
They rate the Engineer the same as Warrior in terms of Deflect, which is so clearly loving wrong it hurts. And Stalkers aren't heavily based on Deflect either, what the gently caress. It's mostly buff/debuff with them.
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Evil_Greven posted:I really disagree with this thingy - especially regarding Tanks. Where's it from? I'm a big believer in choosing your class on how they feel/play rather than any sort of stat ranking. All that poo poo will change with patches, but Engineers will always be big slow bricks with bots and Stalkers will always be dodging fools with Wolverine claws. Play what you like, not what is 'optimum'.
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Evil_Greven posted:I really disagree with this thingy - especially regarding Tanks. Where's it from? Here's where it came from:  someones green butt.
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Agreed. Anyway, if ya'll want to get a good idea of what classes get what sorta things, go here for a character builder. Lot of useful information here from tooltips... even though it's not all right (a LOT of the AMPs information is especially wrong; mostly the formulas for what they scale on rather than the description). Keep in mind that you can only have a few Tier 8 abilities (16 points), but up to 6 Tier 4 abilities (8 points) on your bar, with a few points to spare elsewhere.
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WarLocke posted:I'm a big believer in choosing your class on how they feel/play rather than any sort of stat ranking. All that poo poo will change with patches, but Engineers will always be big slow bricks with bots and Stalkers will always be dodging fools with Wolverine claws. Play what you like, not what is 'optimum'. Specifically for things like healing though there's stuff that isn't explicitly on the box like what class is a better pvp/tank/raid/whatever healer. For spergs like me who like to do specialized healing and have done it in bleeding edge content in previous games and have bizarre preferences it can be kind of a big deal. Melee and Ranged DPS have nuancey things like cast time, disconnect handling, etc that isn't immediately obvious but comes up in endgame. And yes, numbers tweaks can fix some of these issues but if a class is missing a particular tool immediately it's usually not something a numbers tweak is going to fix. I don't tank but tanking threat generation range and availability of cooldowns is usually a relevant thing too. But these are variables that the spergiest minmaxers look at.
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Maxmaps posted:I may be a simple PR guy with barely existent Photoshop skills, but the PvE guild on Evindra now has art. If you didn't pick Space Jam, you blew it.
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Bauxite posted:If you're a medic and the spellslinger in your group is about to die, it's pretty much entirely on them to get to where the healing is, don't go chasing them down because you probably won't catch them if they're really dodging. Between Void slip and Gate, there's basically no reason they can't make it over to your healing poo on the ground. Well, theoretically the Medic can also lifegrip them to him and out of the fire, but I don't know how well that ability works because I never made it high enough to test it. What maybe worries me more is potentially having to stand halfway inside the boss's hitbox just so emission reaches the tank on the other side. Then with Spellslinger it's about having to micromanage spellsurge and precharged abilities in order to heal effectively, and with Esper having to be careful about pooling up Psi points to generate enough burst at the right time. They all have different challenges and seem cool and I don't know what to pick!!
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It really feels like in this game that not dying is about 90% your own responsibility. Yes, the healer is necessary, but the old adage "you can't heal stupid" seems to be doubly true for this game. If someone refuses to get out of telegraphs, they will die. There seems to be little you can do as a healer to save someone who refuses to help themselves. I like that, but I can see where it could be frustrating as a healer.
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I'm gonna be such a special little snowflake with my female Granok Warrior wading through a sea of Aurin that come up to my knees.
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Bauxite posted:It really feels like in this game that not dying is about 90% your own responsibility. Yes, the healer is necessary, but the old adage "you can't heal stupid" seems to be doubly true for this game. If someone refuses to get out of telegraphs, they will die. There seems to be little you can do as a healer to save someone who refuses to help themselves. Sure is easy for the healer to spot and call out the bads, in any case.
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To be fair, if Aurin could be warriors, I would roll an Aurin. Or Medic. Or Engi. Thanks, Carbine
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Apart from animations, Aurin are easily the most popular race of the Exiles. Restricting them to only a few classes makes complete sense in this context.
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straw man posted:Sure is easy for the healer to spot and call out the bads, in any case. Yeah but until they make an ACT plugin for wildstar it's going to be some work to look for deaths to stupid vs raid damage. I haven't played with Galaxymeter yet but parsing logs for deaths is going to be annoying.
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I really don't get the point of locking out races from classes. I just want my drat Chua Stalker 
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A Tartan Tory posted:7am GMT, 8AM BST (this is the timezone the UK is currently in), 9am CET. Oh, awesome, I misunderstood my own countdown timer then. Looks like I get a few hours before work after all. 
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Zoness posted:Yeah but until they make an ACT plugin for wildstar it's going to be some work to look for deaths to stupid vs raid damage. It's actually not that bad if you learn the name of enemy attacks. During my first Adventure I started making it a thing to check how much damage people took to "Jarak: Cyclone" because that was easily the biggest group killer of literally anything in the adventure, and I would berate the person who took the most damage for standing in the red.
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