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I think there's a bit of hyperbole when it comes to talking about the original cut of DBZ and how slow/stretched out it is. A lot of people make jokes about characters screaming for five episodes, but unless I'm forgetting one, the longest power-up sequence (barring gathering energy for a spirit bomb, which is supposed to take an unwieldy amount of time) is Super Saiyan 3, which clocks in at just over 5 minutes. It's definitely slower than the manga or Kai but it's not nearly as bad as some people like to think. That said, while I enjoy Goku vs 50% Frieza a fair amount, once he goes SSJ and Frieza powers up to 100% the fight becomes unbearable and I can't watch. I even had to skim it in Kai. It's the one part of DBZ I just cannot handle anymore.
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Kild posted:For an example: DBZ had Goku charge up the spirit bomb for something like 10 episodes when it was only 2 in Kai. I have no idea how Child Me had the patience for that. I really don't. It's a little mind blowing in retrospect.
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May 31, 2014 03:21
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Captain Oblivious posted:I have no idea how Child Me had the patience for that. I really don't. It's a little mind blowing in retrospect. I don't know how child anybody put up with the series being restarted every 10 episodes until the Android/Cell saga.
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May 31, 2014 03:50
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Schubalts posted:I don't know how child anybody put up with the series being restarted every 10 episodes until the Android/Cell saga. Truly a testament to how DBZ is the coolest series ever 
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May 31, 2014 03:57
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Schubalts posted:I don't know how child anybody put up with the series being restarted every 10 episodes until the Android/Cell saga. Holy poo poo you're right! I...I think I blocked that out 
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May 31, 2014 04:13
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Welp Guldo's dead time to restart from the beginning for the thirtieth time
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May 31, 2014 04:16
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I think people need to get off the circle-jerk abridged bandwagon a bit. Yes, it's a funny take on DBZ, but pick it over the actual product? Are you kidding me? I like abridged but I recognize what it is; a fun side venture, but definitely not a replacement over the bread-and-butter original.
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May 31, 2014 04:22
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Parrotine posted:I think people need to get off the circle-jerk abridged bandwagon a bit. IMO it's hands-down better, but not a replacement since you do need to understand the original events and characterizations for it to be really good.
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May 31, 2014 04:34
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Parrotine posted:I think people need to get off the circle-jerk abridged bandwagon a bit. Oh no someone disagreed with you, they must be wrong.  I actually do like Abriged over the official poo poo, because I don't think the official (anime) poo poo is very good.
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May 31, 2014 04:46
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Genocyber posted:IMO it's hands-down better, but not a replacement since you do need to understand the original events and characterizations for it to be really good. Agreed. Half the fun of DBZ:A is knowing the things they are referencing and making fun of. It's by no means a standalone replacement for the original - it assumes you've seen the original run so you get the jokes.
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May 31, 2014 04:49
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Parrotine posted:I think people need to get off the circle-jerk abridged bandwagon a bit. The original series is brainless fun. Abridged has all the fun, and the stupid, but is aware of the stupid and is clever about it. Ergo I find it to be better! Not being ironic in the slightest  I'd definitely agree that you need to have seen the original for the full effect but yeah, it's still better.
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May 31, 2014 05:01
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WhiffleballDude posted:I think there's a bit of hyperbole when it comes to talking about the original cut of DBZ and how slow/stretched out it is. A lot of people make jokes about characters screaming for five episodes, but unless I'm forgetting one, the longest power-up sequence (barring gathering energy for a spirit bomb, which is supposed to take an unwieldy amount of time) is Super Saiyan 3, which clocks in at just over 5 minutes. It's definitely slower than the manga or Kai but it's not nearly as bad as some people like to think. I might be wrong but didn't Cell take an entire episode to turn perfect after absorbing 18? I only remember because I had a huge nerd crush on Perfect Cell as a kid and seem to remember expecting him to show up in the episode after 18 got absorbed and being sorely disappointed when the narrator came on at the end of it.
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May 31, 2014 05:02
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crankdatbatman posted:I might be wrong but didn't Cell take an entire episode to turn perfect after absorbing 18? I only remember because I had a huge nerd crush on Perfect Cell as a kid and seem to remember expecting him to show up in the episode after 18 got absorbed and being sorely disappointed when the narrator came on at the end of it. I definitely remember that transformation taking forever. I was really surprised a few years later when the transformation was basically instantaneous in the manga.
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May 31, 2014 05:13
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dbz abridged is fun, but I still think that people should watch kai. I also can't understand the hate that kai gets around some other forums. I've seen other comments online about how the original is so much better, which just makes me confused every time I read them.
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May 31, 2014 05:24
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The orignal DBZ is the one true DBZ
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May 31, 2014 05:38
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:The orignal DBZ is the one true DBZ I agree, the manga is superior
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May 31, 2014 05:43
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Some Numbers posted:I definitely remember that transformation taking forever. I was really surprised a few years later when the transformation was basically instantaneous in the manga. Just went and checked, it looks like it pretty much takes the first half of the episode, but then immediately cuts away to Gohan's own transformation scene which takes the other half, with about 3 minutes of Perfect Cell thrown in at the end. Actually kind of an interesting parallel, but yeah, almost nothing of Perfect Cell until NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z.
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May 31, 2014 06:10
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Monaghan posted:dbz abridged is fun, but I still think that people should watch kai. Probably due to preferring the original dub or music score. They're why I prefer the original cut, even if it is worse in most other ways. I've tried watching fight clips from Kai and I can't stand it; the music does not fit DBZ at all.
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May 31, 2014 06:13
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The best way to experience Dragon Ball is to go read the manga, look up all of the spectacular dub lines (all of them, sad for you, etc.), and go watch Abridged.
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May 31, 2014 07:56
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How did I not know this existed? This is amazing.
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May 31, 2014 08:55
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DBZA is definitely just better in a lot of ways, even taken seriously, but one thing that it does do is cut out a really massive amount of action. If you're looking for fights Kai is just way better. DBZA often just cuts down a fight into like 3 or 4 quick cut shots that take about 2-3 seconds and then has someone laying beat up on the ground for comedic effect. I'm not even saying that's a bad thing but if you're looking for guys punching eachother DBZA isn't gonna be very filling. XboxPants fucked around with this message at 09:44 on May 31, 2014 |
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May 31, 2014 09:41
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Kai is really good, please watch it. Then, watch DBZA. The end. That's all there really is to it.
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May 31, 2014 11:03
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After that, register a Something Awful forum account and come here to complain about power levels.
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May 31, 2014 11:06
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Terper posted:After that, register a Something Awful forum account and come here to complain about power levels. They're bullshit.
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May 31, 2014 11:07
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Some Numbers posted:How did I not know this existed? This is amazing. You think that is amazing? You clearly haven't seen the Malaysian DBZ dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wG84efH4sw "Saiya people!" "Take your hand off from Gohan!" "Kaio-ken! Up to ten times!" And of course. "Now you've shown your real poo poo Saiya people." Caros fucked around with this message at 14:40 on May 31, 2014 |
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May 31, 2014 14:37
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My favourite line from Malaysian DBZ: "WE CAN WANDA SELFISHLY IN UNIVERSE, DESTROY WHATEVAH WE LIKE! EAT DELICIOUS FOOD... AND DRINK DELICIOUS LIKKKAAAA!"
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May 31, 2014 16:08
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Kai is really good, please watch it. Then, watch DBZA. The end. That's all there really is to it. This would be a solid plan if Kai used Falcouner's music. Someday, someone will edit in the one true soundtrack to Kai and it'll be pretty much the perfect DBZ anime.
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May 31, 2014 16:41
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Why do people complain about the music in kai? It sounded a lot like the music from dragonball to me. A lot more fitting for the series than over the top rock music.
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May 31, 2014 16:59
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The music to Kai was made by Kenji Yamamoto and I love it because of course that dude did the same thing he did with Budokai music and straight up ripped off rock and metal songs.
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May 31, 2014 17:04
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The only experience I have with the Kai soundtrack is the post-plagerism one where there are only three tracks that are played over everything. It's awful.
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May 31, 2014 17:08
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Caros posted:You think that is amazing? You clearly haven't seen the Malaysian DBZ dub: In the Bojack movie Krillin is called "Infinite Hands"
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May 31, 2014 17:10
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Free Headcrab posted:Why do people complain about the music in kai? It sounded a lot like the music from dragonball to me. A lot more fitting for the series than over the top rock music. That's exactly the issue. It works in Dragonball, does not work at all in Dragonball Z.
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May 31, 2014 17:55
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Genocyber posted:That's exactly the issue. It works in Dragonball, does not work at all in Dragonball Z. If you don't love the Falcouner music then GTFO
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May 31, 2014 18:05
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Before they had to change the music for because of the plagiarism, Kai had some great soundtracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGY1MxtjWw
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May 31, 2014 18:10
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Genocyber posted:That's exactly the issue. It works in Dragonball, does not work at all in Dragonball Z. Also very few people have even seen Dragonball, and certainly not before they saw DBZ and learned that as the norm.
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May 31, 2014 18:14
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XboxPants posted:Also very few people have even seen Dragonball, and certainly not before they saw DBZ and learned that as the norm. This is a real shame. When I finally sat down and read Dragonball, I found that I like it a lot better than DBZ.
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May 31, 2014 18:23
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As DBZA said. NOBODY watched DRAGONBALL. As for the music yeah, kinda grew up with the falconer music. The orginal music sorta feels weird in DBZ.
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May 31, 2014 18:26
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5min take a long time in DBZ because we are seeing it the through the characters' POV  They move really fast... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLlf235XyGM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pmxxf-Bps8
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May 31, 2014 18:31
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The manga of Dragonball/DBZ is so far beyond the anime that it's very hard for me to have a prefrence of whatever bad anime music is slapped on over it. Head cha la is cool though.
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Monaghan posted:Before they had to change the music for because of the plagiarism, Kai had some great soundtracks. This is pretty good, but it doesn't make me think of DragonBall Z at all. When I think of DBZ, I think of planets shaking, I think of fights that can tear down mountains, I think of a huge, serpentine dragon weaving through a pitch black sky. The Falcouner soundtrack fits that mood to a T.
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