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  Edit: I did everything for Golden Ears except the one where you had to guess what frequency changed. gently caress that one. And then it didn't save my progress. 
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As a member of the audiophile industry, I can tell you that the surest way to piss off an audiophile is to tell them that Diana Krall is the best artist in the history of all music.
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Jun 1, 2014 21:20
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Ethanfr0me posted:As a member of the audiophile industry, I can tell you that the surest way to piss off an audiophile is to tell them that Diana Krall is the best artist in the history of all music. A salesperson was showing (what's the sonic equivalent of 'show' in English?) a pair of speakers to my friend and I was just tagging along. When he asked what kind of music we'd like him to put on my friend said he'd mostly be listening to rock. The dude put on some Yello and we both spontaneously burst out laughing. My friend still bought the speakers but only after he'd had them home to try them out.
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Jun 1, 2014 21:48
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Jerry Cotton posted:(what's the sonic equivalent of 'show' in English?) Showing works for it, auditioning could technically work but wouldn't really be appropriate to use here.
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Jun 1, 2014 21:53
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Jerry Cotton posted:A salesperson was showing (what's the sonic equivalent of 'show' in English?) a pair of speakers to my friend and I was just tagging along. When he asked what kind of music we'd like him to put on my friend said he'd mostly be listening to rock. The dude put on some Yello and we both spontaneously burst out laughing. Yello is another band that many people use as a "reference" artist. Reference tracks are used to kind of have a standard that reviewers / setup people use when describing a certain system's sound profile. What ends up happening a lot is those songs / artists get severely overplayed and then vilified.
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Jun 1, 2014 23:31
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Ethanfr0me posted:Yello is another band that many people use as a "reference" artist. Reference tracks are used to kind of have a standard that reviewers / setup people use when describing a certain system's sound profile. What ends up happening a lot is those songs / artists get severely overplayed and then vilified. When a person says they listen to rock they generally don't mean they listen to Yello 
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Jun 1, 2014 23:33
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Ethanfr0me posted:Yello is another band that many people use as a "reference" artist. Reference tracks are used to kind of have a standard that reviewers / setup people use when describing a certain system's sound profile. What ends up happening a lot is those songs / artists get severely overplayed and then vilified. They need the same policies as guitar stores. 
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Jun 1, 2014 23:33
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Definitely great rock music. And I'm sure it makes a good reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7FFjUpVLg
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Jun 1, 2014 23:44
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Combat Pretzel posted:Definitely great rock music. And I'm sure it makes a good reference. Well you posted the only Yello track that's actually good. It's not rock though.
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Jun 2, 2014 01:13
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KillHour posted:
  But yeah, gently caress the frequency one. Elentor fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Jun 2, 2014 01:17
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Nintendo Kid posted:Showing works for it, auditioning could technically work but wouldn't really be appropriate to use here. I like "demoing".
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Jun 2, 2014 06:13
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Ethanfr0me posted:As a member of the audiophile industry, I can tell you that the surest way to piss off an audiophile is to tell them that Diana Krall is the best artist in the history of all music. As a member of the pro-audio/music tech industry, I can tell you that I'll probably go postal if yet another mid-50s product manager or product demonstrator tells me that nothing beats Billy Joel's Piano Man. Also, here's Behringer's corporate anthem: https://soundcloud.com/behringer/behringer-in-our-own-way
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Ethanfr0me posted:As a member of the audiophile industry, I can tell you that the surest way to piss off an audiophile is to tell them that Diana Krall is the best artist in the history of all music. Does anyone actually listen to Diana Krall outside of audio shows? I mean, if somebody walks into the room and asks you to put on Diana Krall, they've basically admitted that they have no taste. There's a guy I see at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest each year who goes from room to room listening to the same German metal song. And I mean it's the same song every single year. I haven't been able to decide if he's the world's best audiophile troll or if he's really spending thousands of dollars to improve the sound quality of dynamically compressed screaming.
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Jun 2, 2014 08:22
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Tool - Prison Sex is my go to song for demoing speakers. I know it well and it has all the instruments mixed out at the front.
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Jun 3, 2014 19:45
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TheMadMilkman posted:Does anyone actually listen to Diana Krall outside of audio shows? I mean, if somebody walks into the room and asks you to put on Diana Krall, they've basically admitted that they have no taste. I just got back from the show at Newport, and everyone and their brother was playing Stevie Ray Vaughan ad nauseum. Some guys come in to the room and have a CD that they absolutely have to hear immediately. There's a mix between Jazz purists and people who just want to hear something with a good mix. For all the bullshit, listening to "Superstition" on a $500k system did sound pretty incredible.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:34
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jonathan posted:Tool - Prison Sex is my go to song for demoing speakers. The important thing is that you know it inside out. Memory is very fallible but it's the best we have. I personally go for some classics like Thriller (that bass line can be pretty revealing) and such but make a point of using some double bass jazz with glissandos and some crazy drumming to reveal both detail and attack. And then if you really want to test out a system that claims bass down to ~10Hz there's always Avril Lavigne - Sk8r Boi second drop...
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Jun 4, 2014 03:54
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Neurophonic posted:Avril Lavigne - Sk8r Boi second drop... Back to ridiculing audiophiles: quote:Sk8er Bass test: a few deep bass notes in Avril Lavigne's Sk8er Boi off Let Go that some components and cables completely miss.
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Jun 4, 2014 05:40
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Ethanfr0me posted:I just got back from the show at Newport, and everyone and their brother was playing Stevie Ray Vaughan ad nauseum. Some guys come in to the room and have a CD that they absolutely have to hear immediately. There's a mix between Jazz purists and people who just want to hear something with a good mix. For all the bullshit, listening to "Superstition" on a $500k system did sound pretty incredible. That beats RMAF two years ago. Nothing but K.D. Lang's Hallelujah, over and over again. Found this gem in a thread about audio playback advances from the last 25 years: quote:The more we learnt, the more we discover how much we don't yet know.... I don't even know where to begin with this one.
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Jun 4, 2014 06:19
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Is nothing sacred??
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Jun 4, 2014 12:48
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TheMadMilkman posted:That beats RMAF two years ago. Nothing but K.D. Lang's Hallelujah, over and over again. The tracks get spread out over time from centrifugal force, leading to bitrot/jitter that can't be measured.
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Jun 4, 2014 13:22
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KillHour posted:
I don't know if it holds for all of them / all platforms but the first few tests I could easily cheat because the song lagged before switching between the changed sample and one of the correct samples, but no lag between unchanged samples. They probably should have put a gap in there
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Neurophonic posted:The important thing is that you know it inside out. Memory is very fallible but it's the best we have. I personally go for some classics like Thriller (that bass line can be pretty revealing) and such but make a point of using some double bass jazz with glissandos and some crazy drumming to reveal both detail and attack. For whatever reason I don't get a ton of bass out of 2-channel content. I don't know why. For example, Guitar Hero defaults to 2 channel mode, but in the options you can choose digital surround mode. In digital 5.1 mode the setup rips. In the stereo mode it sounds rather flat.
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jonathan posted:For whatever reason I don't get a ton of bass out of 2-channel content. I don't know why. For example, Guitar Hero defaults to 2 channel mode, but in the options you can choose digital surround mode. In digital 5.1 mode the setup rips. In the stereo mode it sounds rather flat. Sure it's not just using your stereo speakers? Some (most?) receivers have a straight-up stereo mode that just pipes to left and right, and all your centre/sub/rear gizmos go unused. There are usually modes to make 2-channel content use the entire setup, in various ways, and 5.1 obviously does it explicitly I guess you might have to gently caress around with the crossover settings if you have a sub too? Crack open the weighty manual, is what I'm saying!
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baka kaba posted:Sure it's not just using your stereo speakers? Some (most?) receivers have a straight-up stereo mode that just pipes to left and right, and all your centre/sub/rear gizmos go unused. There are usually modes to make 2-channel content use the entire setup, in various ways, and 5.1 obviously does it explicitly Yup, I'm sure. I know the ins and outs of all the equipment in my rack. It's just multi channel stuff with a subwoofer track seem to hit way harder. For example, I play something like Bass I love you.mp3 and it makes some noise, but then I watch a movie like Olympus Has Fallen and I can knock the projector out of focus and move the walls.
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jonathan posted:Yup, I'm sure. I know the ins and outs of all the equipment in my rack. It's just multi channel stuff with a subwoofer track seem to hit way harder. Don't forget that by design, the LFE channel is usually boosted by 10dB by the receiver to let the LFE stuff go beyond full scale in comparison to the other channels, for the appropriate amount of rumble. And I don't put much credence in those "supah bass!!1" tracks. Throw on stuff like "So Easy" by Röyksopp, "Butterfly" by Jamiroquai and "Vamp" or "Evil Dub" by Trentemøller and I promise your walls will move. Evil Dub is particularly nasty, it's my go-to "annoy the neighbors" track. It's gotta be the CDs or a rip though, I've tried them on Youtube, and they don't hit as hard for some reason. E: There also this great un-edited recording of big fireworks. It doesn't dig super super deep, but the hits are sharp, really snappy. Played back loud it's like you're actually there. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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I think this might be the best place to post this. I'm looking at the Geek Wave on indiegogo. It's cheap for the base model ($158), and plays all the high resolution audio files. I'd love to try them out. Right now I have some Turbine Copper Pros and I think they sound great. I was wondering if there is a consensus on whether this thing will be good? Like I said the price is nice but they've just added this ridiculous IEM package where they'll "upgrade" your Wave so it sounds better with IEMs. For $128! And the loving thing is supposed to be a portable music player! So I'd really like some help before ordering.
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Jun 10, 2014 12:31
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Don't bother. It offers literally nothing of any value over say a Sansa player with Rockbox. There will be no difference in sound quality whatsoever, I promise. High-res audio for playback is a scam.
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Jun 10, 2014 13:39
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I like how it has all these features and options, yet doesn't seem to play back ALAC. You know, the one lossless format that's actually got a major company behind it.
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Jun 10, 2014 16:20
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I don't get why anyone even care about ALAC over FLAC.
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cosmo321 posted:I don't get why anyone even care about ALAC over FLAC. Because Apple sells albums in ALAC through iTunes.
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Jun 10, 2014 17:28
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KozmoNaut posted:Because Apple sells albums in ALAC through iTunes. No, you can rip your CD's to Apple Lossless but Apple doesn't sell ALAC files, iTunes store purchases are 256kbps AAC files. cosmo321 posted:I don't get why anyone even care about ALAC over FLAC. You can't play FLAC files natively on any Apple device (other than a Mac, I guess) whereas ALAC you can (plus have it all handled within iTunes, stored in the iTunes Match cloud etc.)
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Jun 10, 2014 18:02
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I thought they had a limited selection in ALAC, but I don't actually use iTunes.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:04
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I can't think of a better thread to ask about this. I was just on a headphone review site and saw an ad for the Capital Audio Fest in DC. Has anyone here been to their previous events? It's $20 to get in and I'm on the fence about going. I'm not in the market for any super high end audio but it'd be fun to hear some crazy setups.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:49
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Jack White has gone completely mad: http://thirdmanstore.com/jack-white-lazaretto-12-vinyl quote:- 180 gram vinyl
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Isn't the vinyl business pretty much perfectly honed to aim at enthusiasts who care about style (and fancy gimmicks) first and price last? Not my personal cup of tea but if it was then crazy ideas like that would probably be pretty great in a "mp3/flac doesn't have that!" way. v vI guess maybe if you added 3 zeros to the price....
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Isn't the vinyl business pretty much perfectly honed to aim at enthusiasts who care about style (and fancy gimmicks) first and price last? Not my personal cup of tea but if it was then crazy ideas like that would probably be pretty great in a "mp3/flac doesn't have that!" way. v Yeah for $20 that sounds really neat; I think it's more of a novelty item since vinyl is dead, really.
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KozmoNaut posted:Jack White has gone completely mad: I dunno, that stuff sounds like fun and part of the reason people collect vinyls? I'd be more worried about quote:- Absolutely zero compression used during recording, mixing and mastering 
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cosmo321 posted:I don't get why anyone even care about ALAC over FLAC. ALAC too is now open source as well as being better supported on devices.
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Neurophonic posted:ALAC too is now open source as well as being better supported on devices. Really? From my experience I've seen more and more devices supporting FLAC, but almost nothing supporting ALAC (that wasn't made by Apple). Also, that vinyl stuff is cool. Almost makes it worth buying just for the fun of it.
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One of the original tool vinyl releases (undertow?) Had dual track. Half way through the album you either got one song or another live version. Then it rejoined.
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