Asehujiko posted:

Gregor coming back from the dead with even more retard strength is just stupid.

The Mountain's rear end pull of a super move at 5% health feels just as much of a cop out as it does in videogames where it happens especially after Oberyn already recovered from the standard reversal of fortune by having a squire ready with a second spear in case he got disarmed.

Asehujiko posted:

If we're going by realism, somebody who is at the point where he can go pole vaulting with a poison spear stuck in his opponent's chest is simply going to win 100% of the time.

No More Toast posted:

But hey, at least we had a heartwarming moment of Ramsay finally being appreciated by his father. The Boltons are both terrific in their roles and Theon's actor portrays a broken man so well; he really looked so lost and terrified when the lead iron born said he wouldn't surrender.

No More Toast posted:

Also, Sansa is great and I refuse to hear otherwise.

Infinite Monkeys posted:

I'd rather not because I have a tendency to overthink things so it might lead to accidental spoilers. Aren't the books in chronological order then? It seems like the TV show is, although I guess with certain storylines (the Wall, Dany) it's hard to tell.

Blazing Ownager posted:

Anyone bitching about this outcome, let me ask you one thing:

When was the last time you watched a TV show with a BIG IMPORTANT SHOWDOWN (TM) where you really, truly did not know what was going to happen?

BubbleGoose posted:

Aw come on. Wizard Master's posts are tradition. Like fruitcake at Christmas.

Ballz posted:

Oberyn Martell aka The Red Viper (Pedro Pascal)
Second Prince of Dorne, friend of all the ladies... and some gents. Last Seen: Officially gaining title of Best Character on Game of Thrones.

Asehujiko posted:

For the seven and a half episodes worth of build up that fight, it was disappointing in every way possible.

If we're going by realism, somebody who is at the point where he can go pole vaulting with a poison spear stuck in his opponent's chest is simply going to win 100% of the time. Ned getting executed was a distinct possibility because Joffrey is stupid enough and has the authority for it. The Red Wedding is based on a similar event in history and it's hardly the largest scale betrayal that ever happened. Gregor coming back from the dead with even more retard strength is just stupid.

If we're going by what would be an interesting story, Oberyn trying to figure out what to do next now that he's accomplished his life's goal and Tyrion dealing with the fallout of the accusations against him is more interesting than a barely sentient tower of meat killing them who then fucks off again for three more seasons until he has another horse to decapitate. Ned's death set up the plot for the entire succession war and his own role was played out already. Robb's death created the power vacuum that shook up everybody's web of alliances everywhere. Oberyn being dead and Tyrion about to die will just result in status quo, minus two good actors in the King's Landing segments, which has already been haemorrhaging a lot of talent.

If we're going by what would be a good twist, SURPRISE SOULSTONE is the worst thing they could have done. They could have Oberyn do his dance moves around the arena and then get caught by a zweihander in mid air when he takes his stupid stunts within range of the Mountain, they could have had Oberyn poke at him and the Mountain's armour deflecting everything(speaking of which, what the gently caress is up with that). Ned's death was a good twist because you would normally expect Joffrey to show a bit of reason but he can believably decide to not do so, Robb's death was a good twist because the organisers both had good reasons and an opportunity to do so. The Mountain's rear end pull of a super move at 5% health feels just as much of a cop out as it does in videogames where it happens especially after Oberyn already recovered from the standard reversal of fortune by having a squire ready with a second spear in case he got disarmed.

On an unrelated note, Thenns are apparently a culture of cannibalistic James May clones because in all the fight they've been in they're never moved at a pace faster than walking.

Asehujiko posted:

For the seven and a half episodes worth of build up that fight, it was disappointing in every way possible.

If we're going by realism, somebody who is at the point where he can go pole vaulting with a poison spear stuck in his opponent's chest is simply going to win 100% of the time. Ned getting executed was a distinct possibility because Joffrey is stupid enough and has the authority for it. The Red Wedding is based on a similar event in history and it's hardly the largest scale betrayal that ever happened. Gregor coming back from the dead with even more retard strength is just stupid.

If we're going by what would be an interesting story, Oberyn trying to figure out what to do next now that he's accomplished his life's goal and Tyrion dealing with the fallout of the accusations against him is more interesting than a barely sentient tower of meat killing them who then fucks off again for three more seasons until he has another horse to decapitate. Ned's death set up the plot for the entire succession war and his own role was played out already. Robb's death created the power vacuum that shook up everybody's web of alliances everywhere. Oberyn being dead and Tyrion about to die will just result in status quo, minus two good actors in the King's Landing segments, which has already been haemorrhaging a lot of talent.

If we're going by what would be a good twist, SURPRISE SOULSTONE is the worst thing they could have done. They could have Oberyn do his dance moves around the arena and then get caught by a zweihander in mid air when he takes his stupid stunts within range of the Mountain, they could have had Oberyn poke at him and the Mountain's armour deflecting everything(speaking of which, what the gently caress is up with that). Ned's death was a good twist because you would normally expect Joffrey to show a bit of reason but he can believably decide to not do so, Robb's death was a good twist because the organisers both had good reasons and an opportunity to do so. The Mountain's rear end pull of a super move at 5% health feels just as much of a cop out as it does in videogames where it happens especially after Oberyn already recovered from the standard reversal of fortune by having a squire ready with a second spear in case he got disarmed.

On an unrelated note, Thenns are apparently a culture of cannibalistic James May clones because in all the fight they've been in they're never moved at a pace faster than walking.

Fabulous Knight posted:

Right, I've seen some complaints about Oberyn's final moment being too gruesome or whatever. I can kind of see that, but this was pretty much completely how it happened in the *gasp* books. There have been some major moments in this show that have kind of differed from what they were in the source material whereas this one was very loyal to it, but of course then you have the question of should they just have had Oberyn sliced in half or something as opposed to this more prolonged death. Because, poo poo, I feel like if I had not known what was going to happen, I would've found that over-excessive. Just chop his head off or something, I dunno. But then, does it simply just become "Welp, he's dead" as opposed to this, well, rather strong reaction? Ehh. It is what it is.

I mean Oberyn was just basically there to make Tyrion's situation even more messed up, but then Pedro Pascal was actually great in the role and he became a fan favorite.

Hedrigall posted:

If you guys want to know a cool little trivial connection between characters:

This dude who listened to Sansa's confession in the Vale...



is the father of THIS dude who died way back in the very first scene of s01e01!

Hedrigall posted:

I also know that there are still people (my sister included, until a few weeks ago) who didn't realise that Lord Commander Mormont was Jorah "Friendzone" Mormont's father.

You could play a long game of "this dude is THIS dude's dad!" connections with this series and keep surprising people.

Hedrigall posted:

I also know that there are still people (my sister included, until a few weeks ago) who didn't realise that Lord Commander Mormont was Jorah "Friendzone" Mormont's father.

You could play a long game of "this dude is THIS dude's dad!" connections with this series and keep surprising people.

BioMe posted:

That's not really amazing at all. Like they mentioned the relation in one throw-away line and it never became more relevant than that. Most people aren't watching this show with a notebook.

KinkyJohn posted:

KinkyJohn posted:

So it turns out the laptop I uploaded the previous image on has completely poo poo contrast so it was supposed to look like this:

MrBims posted:

The sword Jeor Mormont gave to Jon Snow had been given to his own son, Jorah. He left it behind when he ran from the north when Ned Stark was coming for his head.

Asehujiko posted:

For the seven and a half episodes worth of build up that fight, it was disappointing in every way possible.

If we're going by realism,

quote:

If we're going by what would be an interesting story,

Samara posted:

Do we have a current YouTube link to the fight?

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

So are Arya and the Hound at least going to stop in at the castle? Because if not it's getting kind of eye-rollingly dumb how many chances the kids have to run into each other that have some poorly-written excuse behind not happening.

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

So are Arya and the Hound at least going to stop in at the castle? Because if not it's getting kind of eye-rollingly dumb how many chances the kids have to run into each other that have some poorly-written excuse behind not happening.

MrBims posted:

Why would they be let in?

Pleasant Friend posted:

Where will the Hound take Arya next though? He's not exactly gonna get much of a reward from Jon Snow

Darko posted:

Yeah, this post doesn't make much sense. Oberyn was not fighting to kill, he was fighting to implicate Tywin in public (and then kill once implicated). The Mountain stalling by not saying anything (after he was clearly beaten), allowed him to catch Oberyn at a moment of weakness/in a mistake. It wasn't a super move comeback at the end of a heated fight, it was Vega dancing around taunting too much in Zangief's throwing reach even though a piledriver would take off his remaining health, if you must use a video game analogy.