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The real meaning of the beetles scene was obviously a veiled jab at Orson Scott Card. GRRM can't stand bigotry.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I might be. He was the worst character on the lovely half of the Garfield Show, after all. Wait. Which half wasn't lovely. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Bobo the Red posted:Relations with Dorne are likely hosed, and if the Lannisters are lucky, all they'll do is secede, but I don't see them killing her and sending her head back. Honestly, they might even just send her back because keeping her as a hostage is fairly distasteful. No, she was sent there to marry one of the Prince's sons. Pretty sure she's stuck there, though I agree that the royal plan, regardless of how it proceeds, probably isn't going to be as petty and cruel as murdering a child. That's why the whole "Myrcella going to another wherever" thing was important. Sending her on a vacation wouldn't have been big enough to work for Tyrion's plot. The other possibilities were marrying Robyn (I think), and... I forgot, some other person. But, yeah. There's more keeping her gone than Tyrion wanting her out of King's Landing. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Russell William Thorpe posted:In 500 years, are people going to make shows set in a real or fantasy turn-of-the-millenium America, where people walk around in bullet proof vests at all times? That's 'Bronze' Yohn Royce; the most famous thing about him is his breastplate. It's really old and he claims it's magical. Edit: it's kinda like Johnny Cash wearing black, he didn't have to, but it was part of his public image. Speleothing fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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I swear the old lady in the Sansa scene looks like Joffrey.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:i expected oberyns actor to be a little more buff tbh Do you see what he's standing next to?
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Just got to watching it. It was a hell of a gauntlet to keep spoiler free today. Welp, that happened, that's pretty much all I can say. Valar morghulis, you dumb, smug bastard. Maybe Oberyn's evil twin Shmoberyn will turn up later to avenge his sister AND brother (only to be curbstomped by the Mountain, who clearly was just resting at the end of the fight). Edit: That was some first grade scream queen poo poo Ellaria's actress pulled off there. mcbexx fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Jun 2, 2014 19:38
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While the fight scene was impressively gory in that disturbing way, I'm just happy that they didn't stick to the book line by line for Moat Cailin. That was worse for me than the fight.
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Am I the only one that noticed/thought that Sansa's new dress looks almost exactly like Catelyn's green one? It's obvious she knows what she's doing.
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bob holness paradox posted:"Elia of Dorne. You raped her, you murdered her. You killed her children" Yeah, this is what I'm getting out of it. Dorne will probably be pissed Oberyn died, but won't be able to officially react due to the nature of a trial by combat. But The Mountain *did* explicitly admit to murdering Elia and her children, and that's something Dorne can respond to. Of course, I hope this doesn't mean they kill Myrcella. I'd love it if the Martells weren't total douchebags, who murder a child to avenge murdered children. Doesn't Oberyn have children? I can't wait for them to march on Casterly Rock and then be murdered terribly.
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Kasonic posted:Am I the only one that noticed/thought that Sansa's new dress looks almost exactly like Catelyn's green one?
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Macrame_God posted:I'm still reeling over Oberyn. I guess the reason it blew my mind (hurr) so much is because so much time and energy was invested into building his character and now...nothing. Feels almost like a waste for them to end it all so soon.
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Xealot posted:But The Mountain *did* explicitly admit to murdering Elia and her children, and that's something Dorne can respond to. Pretty sure it can be played off as "Dying rear end in a top hat saying hurtful things to the guy that left him with mortal wounds, while crushing his skull in." It'd be easy to play it off as nothing more than using the thing Obreyn kept shouting against him in his dying breath and for Twyinn to claim he had nothing to do with it. So all they're left with, still, is accusations.
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Xealot posted:Yeah, this is what I'm getting out of it. Dorne will probably be pissed Oberyn died, but won't be able to officially react due to the nature of a trial by combat. But The Mountain *did* explicitly admit to murdering Elia and her children, and that's something Dorne can respond to. But the Dornish already hate the living poo poo out of the Lannisters. The guy who brokered the original deal with them is going to be executed and Oberyn's already dead. Basically what I'm saying is that they've got something to get angry over and all of the goodwill that was built up by the Lannisters disappears with Tyrion's head.
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mcbexx posted:Edit: That was some first grade scream queen poo poo Ellaria's actress pulled off there. Yeah, giving props to her. That scream sounded absolutely authentic. I think what sold it was she wasn't going for "horrifed scream" like most actress do; namely screaming like they are scared. This was infused with a "watching your whole life implode" kind of desperation that made it work.
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Illinois Smith posted:Well, she did get it out of Cat's sister's closet. And wasn't she tailoring it in the bedroom scene? I suppose the feathers are Arryn style. Normally I would enjoy the "young woman manipulates middle-aged guy" story. But with Littlefinger the risk seems a bit high.
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Lena Headey is awesome. Which is ironic because the first time I saw her was as Sarah Connor in TSCC, and I thought she was the most miscast/weakest on the show. But since then between stuff like this and movies like Dredd, she's totally won me over.
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Grim Up North posted:And wasn't she tailoring it in the bedroom scene? I suppose the feathers are Arryn style.
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Lovely interview with Pedro Pascal (Oberyn's actor). http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/01/game-of-thrones-oberyn-dead/ quote:In your mind, what did your character do wrong?
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BubbleGoose posted:What's so impressive is that he made himself a fan favorite in such little time. I really want to see him in more stuff. You know, this is really out of left field, but he's the kind of actor that Marvel tends to grab up: Notably charismatic, up and coming but also not overly well known. I'm not sure who they could cast him as, but I have a feeling the actor would just.. click in that environment, really well. I don't know why exactly, but it really wouldn't shock me if it happened in a couple years. Maybe it's the fact I could picture him delivering some really corny banter but sell it.
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BubbleGoose posted:Doesn't the Lannister stronghold literally sit on a mountain of gold (okay, maybe just a big hill)? If the Mountain is the symbol of the Lannister's power, and he dies, it could symbolize the waning of their power. And the Lannister goldmines are tapped. That's just my thinking, anyway.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:But the Dornish already hate the living poo poo out of the Lannisters. The guy who brokered the original deal with them is going to be executed and Oberyn's already dead. Basically what I'm saying is that they've got something to get angry over and all of the goodwill that was built up by the Lannisters disappears with Tyrion's head. Tyrion's head will disappear with the rest of his body onto a boat  come on Varys, I need this
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Blazing Ownager posted:You know, this is really out of left field, but he's the kind of actor that Marvel tends to grab up: Notably charismatic, up and coming but also not overly well known. I'm not sure who they could cast him as, but I have a feeling the actor would just.. click in that environment, really well. I can see him being the new Tony Stark once RDJ calls it quits.
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While I totally had a crush on Oberyn, his death didn't freak me out as much as it should have because all I could think about was that one .gif from Scanners. 
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BubbleGoose posted:I've been doing research on the Mexican cartel. gently caress yes does George have a point. A lot of South America drug cartels routinely do poo poo that make the Lannisters or even the Boltons look timid, it's true.
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Doflamingo posted:I can see him being the new Tony Stark once RDJ calls it quits. Did they ever end up casting anyone for Dr. Strange yet? I don't know much about that character but he seems like he has the look down absolutely pat. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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I really liked the scene where Theon is pretending to still be his old self and the Ironborn leader starts giving this speech about Ironborn never surrendering then get instantly killed right after by his own men, almost identical to Reek when he made that speech at Winterfell. That and the Arya laughing at the ridiculousness of it all (and of Sandor getting denied payment yet again).
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Blazing Ownager posted:Did they ever end up casting anyone for Dr. Strange yet? I was just thinking about him being Dr. Strange.
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What's all this talk about Arya "snapping" upon hearing that her aunt died? I think by now hearing that a relative has died will not faze her in the slightest, considering the poo poo she went through. I took it she bursted out laughing that the Hound wouldn't get his bounty after dragging her rear end across half of the kingdom (even though they warmed up to each other).
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mcbexx posted:I took it she bursted out laughing that the Hound wouldn't get his bounty after dragging her rear end across half of the kingdom (even though they warmed up to each other). I don't know how you got that. It's plainly obvious: Every single time she tries to reunite with family, ANY family, even family she doesn't know.. they die right before she gets there. She has been on a non-stop quest to get to people who drop dead before she gets there. Once is a tragedy, twice is horrible, but after a while.. yeah. That was a well earned moment of "gently caress it!" manic laughter, and pretty hilarious.
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Steve Yun posted:Maybe you've already considered this, but if you take this symbolism further, it's a sign that even when the Lannisters are in their death throes they're still extremely lethal. All men must die Hopefully Cersei too 
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Tyrion's sending Myrcella to Dorne was an olive branch to the Martells, which didn't really come across in the show since he was also using it to root out Cersei's man Pycelle (and possibly to hurt Cersei). Tywin built on that foundation by offering Oberyn a seat on the council - not only giving Dorne a semblance of power, but also putting an important Martell in King's Landing permanently. Both sides would have a "don't try anything, because we have one of yours" situation. In essence, Tywin let things escalate and now his plan for unity of the seven kingdoms might be down the toilet. However, I imagine the fact that the Mountain raped and killed Oberyn's sister and murdered her children is not exactly a secret, nor is the fact that Tywin Lannister moves the Mountain. It's just that Dorne isn't going to risk a war with the Iron Throne just to bring Tywin to justice. Maybe they'll send someone else to take Oberyn's place on the council, but considering Oberyn only came because he thought he had a chance at revenge, and that got him killed... prolly not.
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IMB posted:I wonder if it would be hard to watch your eyes get bloodily gouged out by a 7-foot monster. I would imagine you would scream horribly for a few seconds before your head caved in..
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What the Flick!?'s reaction video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEG0Ybj7v4
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Blazing Ownager posted:You know, this is really out of left field, but he's the kind of actor that Marvel tends to grab up: Notably charismatic, up and coming but also not overly well known. Yes! I was thinking the same thing. All during the fight my buds and I were saying he'd be a great X-Men character.
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The people complaining about Gregor's head smash being unrealistic are idiots. The human body can exert tremendous force even when it's missing limbs and has lost tons of blood. Read the accounts of war heroes and you will see men who killed dozens of others with their bayonets after they'd had their arm chopped off and been stabbed in the gut. I think there's also been some research that shows that huge men are more likely to survive being shot and stabbed because of the relative size of their organs. Adrenaline and discipline can make the human body do amazing things, and the human skull really isn't that strong. The eye sockets are a significant weak point in the structure and once you cause one minor fracture then the rest of the skull would cave in pretty easily. More importantly this is a show where zombies rise from the dead with superhuman strength, and where the Mountain's younger brother can chop an armored man in half with his great sword. I can't remember this forum from 2 years ago but were people making similar complaints about the Hound chopping people in half? It's pretty much impossible to cut a man in half through the torso, but it becomes 5x as hard if he's simply wearing chain mail. Petah fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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mcbexx posted:Edit: That was some first grade scream queen poo poo Ellaria's actress pulled off there. She did a great job with limited screen time. She also pulled off a really sexy attitude and look, while in other roles she's very plain and dressed down. She reminded me of Gretchen from Breaking Bad, another actress who was great even though she wasn't on camera a whole lot.
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