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acephalousuniverse posted:One of the most fascinating things about Going Clear, the book, is the insight into Travolta and Cruise. Travolta's case is really sad and he's obviously been blackmailed into it for years and years; you get to pity him a lot. Travolta should just loving come out already, it couldn't possibly be more embarrassing than Battlefield Earth.
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You do realise there are two entities called Tom Cruise, right? One is "Crazy Scientologist Wazzock" Tom Cruise, the other is "Pretty Good Actor Who Stars in Films I Like" Tom Cruise, and I refuse, refuse, to believe they are the same person  .
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BioMe posted:There are also the people who were born into it or joined as children with their parents. You have to feel sorry for those people at least. See: Beck
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Neil Gaiman's parents are scientologists too, but he himself is not.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:You do realise there are two entities called Tom Cruise, right? One is "Crazy Scientologist Wazzock" Tom Cruise, the other is "Pretty Good Actor Who Stars in Films I Like" Tom Cruise, and I refuse, refuse, to believe they are the same person tom cruise movies post 2005 are awful
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...but I liked Tropic Thunder, and Oblivion, and both Mission Impossibles...
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Pigbog posted:Neil Gaiman's parents are scientologists too, but he himself is not. That explains his twatyness.
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FirstPersonShitter posted:poo poo, olddirtybtard killed himself? Man, we were good friends for a while. I remember when his cat got poisoned, I was on irc with him at the time. Later on his other cat, one he actually owned , died of old age and he got really depressed. I dropped out of that community due to rl poo poo, but I really didn't think he'd actually kill himself Pretty sure, yeah. I never knew him personally, but as I heard (from friends of friends, because I was never involved in the Scientology protests and had nothing to do with Anonymous or the old guard) from people who attended the protests, it was just too much for him. For a while people did suspect a Scientology hit, but it does look like it was just him being pushed over the edge. 
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Sad Mammal posted:...but I liked Tropic Thunder, and Oblivion, and both Mission Impossibles... 
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Otana posted:For a while people did suspect a Scientology hit, but it does look like it was just him being pushed over the edge. The thing that makes it tough is that half the time what Scientologists do is harass someone so much that they eventually wear down and commit suicide themselves to escape it. After all, if you inspire someone to kill themselves, you're not actually killing them - you're letting your problem take care of itself. So when a prominent anti-Scientologist advocate suddenly kills themselves, I tend to wonder what exactly happened to inspire it (especially given the fact that he'd been potentially targeted once before with the cat poisoning). Maybe he really was just a depressed guy but I dunno….it fits too conveniently into the CoS's patterni for me to ever 100% rule out my suspicions. It's just way, way too common for devoted anti-Scientology folks (or members of CoS who are attempting to leave) to very suddenly commit suicide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Lonsdale http://nomoreliesscn.blogspot.com/2013/03/suicide-end-phenomenon-of-scientology.html Basically when people piss the Church off, it digs and digs so deeply and works so hard to psychologically break people that eventually they turn to despair.
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PYF: scary or unnerving article or Wikipedia or long rear end discussion about scientology that nobody cares about. Content: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop A low frequency sound heard around thousands of square miles of ocean. Pretty sure the mystery was solved by it just being an inconceivably huge piece of ice breaking from a glacier or something. Still doesn't stop me thinking of some Cthulhu poo poo though.
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Scientology is only boring if you have absolutely no intellectual curiosity or imagination. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White "It was the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history…"
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Scientology is only boring if you have absolutely no intellectual curiosity or imagination. Its interesting, so much so that you should go start it's own thread and not turn this one into a 4 page derail about that one subject.
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dpack_1 posted:Its interesting, so much so that you should go start it's own thread and not turn this one into a 4 page derail about that one subject. Except you're literally the only one complaining/derailing so maybe you should get over it?
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dpack_1 posted:Its interesting, so much so that you should go start it's own thread and not turn this one into a 4 page derail about that one subject. No, I think this one is working just fine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout Operation Freakout is of course an early example of the CoS getting caught trying to drive someone so insane they either go to jail or prison (with possible assassination attempts). The FBI uncovered the plot in the 70s. Gives me the heebie-jeebies that the CoS has basically had 40 years to refine these techniques to fly under the radar.
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Except you're literally the only one complaining/derailing so maybe you should get over it? Eh... I'd like to read more stuff I've never heard of. Content http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmata Stigmata is a Catholic phenomenon in which a person will supposedly start bleeding from the wrists and feet. I'm agnostic now but when I was a kid, my teachers taught us about it like it was no big deal
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I just happen to find reality the most unnerving thing of all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_401 2nd deadliest single-aircraft disaster in the US, cause by a single burnt-out LED light distracting the whole flight crew so much that no one noticed the plane slowly descending into the tarry blackness of the Everglades at night.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,_Pennsylvania I actually lived in PA for a year or so and didn't know about this place at the time I was there. Ghost towns always kinda creep me out and one that's pretty much on fire for the foreseeable future would be extra creepy. EDIT: Similar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashima_Island This looks like an awesome place to spend a weekend camping or some poo poo with a dozen buddies playing the most amazing game of paintball ever conceived.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:The thing that makes it tough is that half the time what Scientologists do is harass someone so much that they eventually wear down and commit suicide themselves to escape it. After all, if you inspire someone to kill themselves, you're not actually killing them - you're letting your problem take care of itself. It depends on where you are, but most places these days consider this kind of harassment "callous disregard for human life" if it leads to a death, for creating the circumstances which push someone into suicide. These crimes are most often charged under Depraved-Heart Murder laws and are tantamount to Second Degree murder if they result in a death. Originally the law was used to charge, for example, people who fired blindly into a crowd; but now it has some strong precedent for this type of situation. Frankly I'm amazed it hasn't been used to charge anyone from CoS before.
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dpack_1 posted:Its interesting, so much so that you should go start it's own thread and not turn this one into a 4 page derail about that one subject. You seem like a literal loving retard. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Rysithusiku posted:It depends on where you are, but most places these days consider this kind of harassment "callous disregard for human life" if it leads to a death, for creating the circumstances which push someone into suicide. These crimes are most often charged under Depraved-Heart Murder laws and are tantamount to Second Degree murder if they result in a death. Originally the law was used to charge, for example, people who fired blindly into a crowd; but now it has some strong precedent for this type of situation. Frankly I'm amazed it hasn't been used to charge anyone from CoS before. Could you cite me one case of a conviction for 2nd degree murder for harassing someone into suicide?
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ninjahedgehog posted:This is the most interesting part of the People's Temple to me. Like someone said above, it was in many ways really progressive for the time, and Jim Jones could have been a hero had he not been an evil lunatic murdering scumfuck. The thing is, he probably set out to be a hero, but ended up loving it up and being a murderer. The idea that he somehow could've accomplished anything else is inherently flawed, being that it didn't shake out that way in reality.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Gate_Bridge#Suicides To me, it's unnerving that such an iconic and beautiful landmark draws so many suicidal people. From its opening until 1995, when the media stopped reporting the suicides, 1,000 people took their lives there. But people are still jumping regardless. In 2013, there were 46 deaths and 118 prevented, an unprecedented record. 
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dpack_1 posted:PYF: scary or unnerving article or Wikipedia or long rear end discussion about scientology that nobody cares about. Following the rabbit hole of the Bloop I went to the list of other strange sounds in the ocean. Some of them are seasonal, and others are one-time events that just make you wonder what exactly the planet is doing where we aren't looking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unexplained_sounds And of course the page has a link to random hums (like in Taos, NM), the general article about numbers stations, and random sonic booms like are rumored to happen occasionally on beach that is only about 10 miles from where I live (Carolina Beach, NC). I didn't find a wikipedia article on them, but there's this: http://www.rense.com/general13/mysterybooms.htm saying that the booms date back to at least the 1850's.
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dpack_1 posted:Its interesting, so much so that you should go start it's own thread and not turn this one into a 4 page derail about that one subject. I don't know about you but I prefer a post about an operation I've never heard about over the loving Bloop, which gets posted every 20 pages in threads like this. And which has been resolved.
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Alpacalips Now posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Gate_Bridge#Suicides quote:The official count ended on June 5, 1995 on the 997th jump; jumper No. 1000, Eric Atkinson (25), jumped on July 3, 1995. Earlier in 1995, a local disc jockey had offered a case of Snapple to the family of the 1000th suicide victim.  Why the making GBS threads gently caress would you do this? "Sorry your husband offed himself but here's a case of Snapple for you and and your four kids! Congratulations!"It's not a Wiki link, but this is a picture of a man jumping from the Yangtze River bridge, the most popular site of suicides. He was unwittingly caught on camera, and his girlfriend followed him seconds after. 
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J Miracle posted:Could you cite me one case of a conviction for 2nd degree murder for harassing someone into suicide? Second degree murder is a stretch and will be hard to find an example of, more often is a bunch of lesser charges as it's hard to pin a single big crime. See: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_v._Dharun_Ravi
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Icon Of Sin posted:Following the rabbit hole of the Bloop I went to the list of other strange sounds in the ocean. Some of them are seasonal, and others are one-time events that just make you wonder what exactly the planet is doing where we aren't looking. The most likely explanation for all of them is that the sea floor is a lot, and I mean a lot, more volcanically and tectonically active than most of the land. Water makes for a great conductor of sound, and the sounds of erupting volcanoes and shifting plates as expected make a lot of sound. The other sounds that cant be explained by the previous two could do with massive cave systems collapsing, which would probably make a bloop sound as trapped air rushes out of them at great pressures. Or Ice quakes, those are a thing apparently.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Following the rabbit hole of the Bloop I went to the list of other strange sounds in the ocean. Some of them are seasonal, and others are one-time events that just make you wonder what exactly the planet is doing where we aren't looking. Obligatory "The Bridge" mention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwl-Pa_QT0M The full thing is on YouTube, it's depressing as gently caress. quote:Shortly after ten-thirty in the morning on Wednesday, March 19th, a real-estate agent named Paul Alarab began hiking across the Golden Gate Bridge. Midway along the walkway, which carries pedestrians and cyclists between San Francisco and Marin County, he stopped and climbed the four-foot safety railing. Then he lowered himself carefully onto the bridge’s outermost reach, a thirty-two-inch-wide beam known as “the chord.” It is on the chord, two hundred and twenty feet above San Francisco Bay, that people intending to kill themselves often pause. On a sunny day, as this day was, the view is glorious: Angel Island to the left, Alcatraz straight ahead, Treasure Island farther off, bisecting the long gray tangent of the Bay Bridge, and, layered across the hills to the south, San Francisco.
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SheepNameKiller posted:The thing is, he probably set out to be a hero, but ended up loving it up and being a murderer. The idea that he somehow could've accomplished anything else is inherently flawed, being that it didn't shake out that way in reality. I gotta admit, "I wish this guy had used his amazing powers of deceit and manipulation for good!" is itself a kinda creepy thought.
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dpack_1 posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,_Pennsylvania Funnily enough, when I lived in Nagasaki in the late 90s, the locals told me Hashima was uninhabited because of a never-ending underground coal fire. I was quite disappointed to find out that wasn't the case.
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Otana posted:Pretty sure, yeah. I never knew him personally, but as I heard (from friends of friends, because I was never involved in the Scientology protests and had nothing to do with Anonymous or the old guard) from people who attended the protests, it was just too much for him. For a while people did suspect a Scientology hit, but it does look like it was just him being pushed over the edge. By the time I'd dropped out of contact with him the scientology protests were petering out and it seemed like his troubles with them were over. He'd had some lady hiding in his bushes with a camera for a while, and he'd been arrested, but the LAPD turned out to be on his side and he didn't get in any more police trouble as far as I was aware. They killed his one cat with ammonia in the food he left out (apparently cats just ignore ammonia because of their pee) but that just seemed to make him more motivated (as well as sad obvs). Then his other cat who he'd had for years died. He got really depressed after that. I don't want to say that I talked him out of suicide a couple of times, because he wasn't like "I'VE GOT A GUN TO MY HEAD", he was talking about his life being pointless and ending it though and I did my best to try and convince him that things weren't so bad on a couple of occassions. I wish I'd not stopped going to that irc now. He was a really nice, really funny guy and always a good friend to me. It sounds dumb, but I ended up an administrator at encyclopedia dramatica (the first one (I was 15)) cause he thought I was funny. It just seemed like he had lovely luck in life. He was rated as being a funnier howard stern, but his radio career never really went anywhere for no apparent reason. Poor guy.
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Nckdictator posted:Obligatory "The Bridge" mention Ah yes, I remember watching that docu at 3am because of insomnia on HBO like 6-7 years ago. It is very sad, especially for a suicidal teenager whose tendencies carried over to adulthood.
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quote:Mt. Mihara, a volcano in Japan (more than six hundred people jumped into it in 1936 alone); Suicide by jumping into a loving volcano. Now that is metal. 
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dpack_1 posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia,_Pennsylvania Says one of the ten residents is between 25-29 and there's a couple in their 50's, whom I assume are the parents. I am curious what this person is like being in a town with literally no one they could consider a peer. I would assume they have some sort of mental condition forcing them to stay home because they can't live on their own. I know not everyone is made for city life, even a small one. But poo poo, there's gotta be some farm town in the area with 600 people and a traffic light they could move too. What the hell are they going to do when their parents are dead in 20 years besides cash the checks for another 5 years.
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The American Dream posted:Says one of the ten residents is between 25-29 and there's a couple in their 50's, whom I assume are the parents. I am curious what this person is like being in a town with literally no one they could consider a peer. I would assume they have some sort of mental condition forcing them to stay home because they can't live on their own. They are convinced - and I am not making this up - that the fire is something the government made up out of whole cloth so they could steal the land and mine all the huge and valuable coal seams that still remain under the town.
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The American Dream posted:
People living out in the country by themselves isn't so unusual. They can't be that far from anyone else.
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In a similar vein, Times Beach is a now-abandoned vacation town in Missouri. Everything was fine and cool until they paid a dude to oil the roads. He oiled them with Agent Orange run-off.
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Einsteinium is pretty kickass, it has an awesome name, its so exotic that even its decay products are all super-heavy artificial elements, and its just stable enough that you can make macroscopic amounts of it. What's unnerving is the picture in the article of a pinch of einsteinium glowing ominously in a test tube. Most radioactive isotopes don't glow, only the really loving radioactive ones. You just know that fucker is hot enough to melt through the test tube, too. It's a little glowing chunk of should-not-be, a piece of metal with such a short half life its like the universe itself is offended by its existence. Its some spooky sci-fi poo poo.
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Encolpio posted:Ah, ok, thanks. One part stood out to me in particular. DC-8??? Why?
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