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xcore posted:I haven't read the last 15 pages so apologies if it's been brought up, but are there any Red Wedding style reaction vids out there for Viper/Mountain fight? I would love to see the emotional rollercoaster. There are reaction videos for everything in this show. At least 4 have been posted so far.
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Jerusalem posted:Eventually everybody will come to accept the only legitimate and true King - Stannis Baratheon. Standing alone in a windswept plain of unending ice, Stannis, the First of His Name and Rightful King of All Westeros glares at the King of the White Walkers. Ser Davos passionately proclaims how Stannis' claim to the Iron Throne is the only true and just claim in all the realm. The King of the White Walkers nods once, fist-bumps Stannis and heads back North. The End.  Blazing Ownager posted:EDIT: I hope this doesn't count as a spoiler but in the book please tell me this fight was from Obreyn's POV? Somehow I can only picture it written that way. It sure was. Here, let me quote you the relevant section: quote:Like an avalanche made of steel The Mountain came at Oberyn. Ducking nimbly under the slashing blade he struck once, twice, three times in the weak points of the armor. The Mountain staggered back and Oberyn stepping in closely and thrust his spear under the Mountain's gorget. Coughing up blood, the Mountain crashed backwards and lay still, dead for all time.
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Pong Fiend posted:I'm not sure if this has been posted, but on the off chance. . . I'm guessing this is how it plays out more in the book; with the Mountain getting increasingly pissed off instead of just not giving a poo poo like he did in the show. Probably due to acting range. Still drat good comic version of the events, which is ironically less gory than the show execution.
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Fellatio del Toro posted:Roose is great because he's smart and ruthless like Tywin but he has people skills and doesn't constantly poo poo on everyone around him. This show is pretty much full of people seeking approval and getting rejected (especially between sons and fathers) so giving Ramsay his name should earn Roose a Father of the Year award. I wonder how much of Roose's motivation to legitimize Ramsay was "you done good, son" versus "this kid is a loving crazy person and I'd rather have him as a devoted son/ally than resent me and eventually turn against me"
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ironlung posted:I wonder how much of Roose's motivation to legitimize Ramsay was "you done good, son" versus "this kid is a loving crazy person and I'd rather have him as a devoted son/ally than resent me and eventually turn against me" Have you seen how Roose looks at that kid? He knows. He KNOWS.
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Marketing New Brain posted:I don't think there will be any reprisal from Dorne, it isn't like they rigged the fight, which he entered willingly and against the wishes of the Lannisters. Is this a real opinion or one of those thinly veiled 'I read the book and know what happens so I'll talk about it as if I'm just gleaning wisely from the show'?  Season 5 is even 'rumored to take place in Dorn': http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/01/game-of-thrones-oberyn-dead/
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precision posted:Have you seen how Roose looks at that kid? He knows. He KNOWS. It is known.
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CuddleChunks posted:-- an excerpt from HBO's Game of Thrones - the Book by Alan Dean Foster I was mostly thinking of that because it'd been interesting to read all the righteous fury and, from his perspective, total and complete confidence that he was going to win, only to end screaming as his head is popped like a zit. The confusion / shock of the sudden shift somehow would just be more tragic from his thoughts, I'd think. ironlung posted:I wonder how much of Roose's motivation to legitimize Ramsay was "you done good, son" versus "this kid is a loving crazy person and I'd rather have him as a devoted son/ally than resent me and eventually turn against me" Remember when he talked about kind of respecting the "different way" Ramsey deals with things? I think Bolton isn't even scared, just reasonably cautious, with Ramsey. More importantly Bolton knows Ramsey is a kind of mad-genius, not just mad, and that he's a powerful weapon he can point in the direction of his enemies as a result. As a house that's known for flaying people, he probably figures even if Ramsey gets a reputation as a complete psychopath that's well known, he's still useful to terrorize people and promote the "don't gently caress with the Boltons. No, not even then!" image. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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precision posted:Have you seen how Roose looks at that kid? He knows. He KNOWS. He knows, and he loving loves it.
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Dr.Tree posted:You forgot Stannis... who may be involved with a crazy cult, but you can't argue with results and the god of light gets results. The Lord of Light literally brought a dude back to life several times. Screw the Seven, I'd sign up for some of that immortality poo poo in a heartbeat. Proof that Stannis knows what's up.
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Also wikipedia says they held at 7.20M viewers for the last episode. I bet you anything they crack 8 million after last night's episode, especially once you take into account the normal finale bump.
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Blazing Ownager posted:I think Bolton isn't even scared, just reasonably cautious, with Ramsey. More importantly Bolton knows Ramsey is a kind of mad-genius, not just mad, and that he's a powerful weapon he can point in the direction of his enemies as a result. As a house that's known for flaying people, he probably figures even if Ramsey gets a reputation as a complete psychopath that's well known, he's still useful to terrorize people and promote the "don't gently caress with the Boltons. No, not even then!" image. Yeah, Ramsey to Roose is what the Mountain is to Tywin.
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The only thing Roose really needs to worry about now (other than the Lannisters' increasingly precarious position that he isn't privy to) is that by legitimizing his son he's created a situation where his own death benefits Ramsay immensely.
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Vanderdeath posted:The Lord of Light literally brought a dude back to life several times. Screw the Seven, I'd sign up for some of that immortality poo poo in a heartbeat. Proof that Stannis knows what's up. Seriously, let's break this poo poo down Old Gods: Trees or some poo poo The Seven: loving worthless Death: Rarely stood up Lord of Light: Resurrecting dudes, shooting a smoke assassin out of a priestess's vagina The Drowned God: So disappointed
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Well, you don't need to kill a person to get revenge on them really. I think killing Joffrey is working out just fine as far as getting back at Tywin is concerned. No More Heroes posted:Literally every major character death has been motivated by vengeance with the catalyst being Jamie and Cersei banging and the subsequent investigation into Roberts and their children. Littlefinger essentially chose which outcome Jon Arryn's investigation would have. Had Jon Arryn been allowed to continue, he would have told Robert, ending Cersei, Jaime, and the kids rather abruptly (possibly triggering a war with Casterly Rock, though Tywin is a pragmatist), or he would've hosed up like Ned/ been killed by Cersei (possibly through Pycelle) anyway, which might have caused similar/identical events to unfold. But in that first scenario, Ned stays with Cat in the North, and there's not as much chaos, so he made sure Jon Arryn died, and in doing that, he caused pretty much every death in this story. KamikazePotato posted:I'm actually going to call BS on the 'there are no characters left to root for' notion. We've got: Weird to omit Sansa, the only major character who has not killed a single person (I think?). Also Arya's first kill was a random kid. Kinda harsh to say he deserved it for the crime of being behind her. gently caress Theon. There's no redemption from what he did. Jaime's biggest crime is what he did to Bran / killing his plot-device cousin and making subtle references to it; gently caress him too (but god he's dreamy) The Hound loving rules, and remains the only person besides Tyrion to stick his neck out for the Starks (and survive). Don't kill them, GRRM, you bastard WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:"Hubris never wins" Renly died because he thought he was so special that the rules of succession shouldn't apply to him. Ned's wasn't quite hubris, though his adherence to his honor was certainly tied to pride, and is definitely why his head left his body. Vanderdeath posted:The Lord of Light literally brought a dude back to life several times. Screw the Seven, I'd sign up for some of that immortality poo poo in a heartbeat. Proof that Stannis knows what's up. The funny thing is, Melisandre probably can't do it. She was shocked in a way jealous way of what Thoros did. But yeah, I hate Stannis and everyone on Dragonstone who isn't Davos or that princess, but drat if the Lord of Light doesn't deliver (even if apparently the early stuff is all smoke and mirrors. Why do they need that when they have the only actually active god out there?). OneThousandMonkeys posted:Given that the ironborn religion holds raiding and pillaging as pious, it is probably best that they be exterminated. The Ironborn having power, and House Bolton being trusted will never make sense. Oh, our banner is a dude with his skin cutoff, don't worry about it/ Oh, our whole religion, code, even our house words suggest all we wanna do is rape and pillage you guys. Bobo the Red fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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Mandrel posted:I think we're supposed to be noticing a trend re: the Ironborn. That is that Theon being a giant pussy with delusions of grandeur is entirely characteristic of his people and they're pretty much all a bunch of cheap thugs and cowards when the chips are down. They talk tough, but they're not and their lack of sense leaves them continually out of their depth. Ding Ding! Thugs is perfect.
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Lycus posted:Yeah, Theon was a character that was around in the early seasons. He's dead now, but Reek was pretending to be him.  I feel like the only light at the end of Theon's tunnel is being mercifully killed, by a character who knows nothing of his story. He just deserves peace.
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Octolady posted:Had to go have a lie down after this episode Not sure how likable these people really are. Margaery knew full well what a sociopatch Joffrey was and was still about 4 hours away from chugging one of his hot loads just because she wants power.
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tonesville posted:Ding Ding! Thugs is perfect. Given that the ironborn religion holds raiding and pillaging as pious, it is probably best that they be exterminated. Oh poo poo I think I'm a Lannister now.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Oh poo poo I think I'm a Lannister now. What is your stance re: paying your debts?
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Jerusalem posted:What is your stance re: paying your debts? Do it with as much dramatic irony as possible!
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So what was up with the pardon letter Barristan Selmy got? They said it had Robert's signature, which means it was (or might have been) the original pardon Jorah got back in Season 1. Did he really keep it around so someone can find it? Or did someone forge Robert's signature?
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Bobo the Red posted:Also Arya's first kill was a random kid. Kinda harsh to say he deserved it for the crime of being behind her.
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Well, Jorah is halfway across the world. I don't think ravens make transoceanic trips. Two years(?) does seem like a long time for one message, though.
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Away all Goats posted:So what was up with the pardon letter Barristan Selmy got? They said it had Robert's signature, which means it was (or might have been) the original pardon Jorah got back in Season 1. Did he really keep it around so someone can find it? Or did someone forge Robert's signature? I think Jorah had to keep it around because he'd need it as proof that he was pardoned. It wouldn't have been hard for Varys to tell the kid to go find it and then hand it to Selmy.
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davidspackage posted:Oh, that's good to know. To answer your blacked-out text with show-only information: It is shown in the episode, but easily missed. Like Olenna snatching a stone from Sansa's necklace during the Purple Wedding. http://youtu.be/qyOw7ScY4F4 See 1:21 of this Youtube clip. Pretty sure his squire isn't just polishing that spear for fun. Benioff's comment in the Inside the Episode is as good a confirmation as any. Yureina fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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Away all Goats posted:So what was up with the pardon letter Barristan Selmy got? They said it had Robert's signature, which means it was (or might have been) the original pardon Jorah got back in Season 1. Did he really keep it around so someone can find it? Or did someone forge Robert's signature? Don't know why Jorah denied it being a forgery, though, even if the information was legit. Lycus fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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Lycus posted:We saw the prelude to that message being sent earlier in the season. Tywin: "Lord Tyrell, bring me my quill and paper!" "Varys, can your little birds make it into Meereen?" He'd have no way of knowing if it was a forgery, or something that Robert actually wrote and placed into his safe deposit box. I think he was so flustered about something that was obviously so long ago in the past coming up that he didn't know what to do. It was a masterstroke by Tywin though, not just weakening Dany by getting rid of one of her better advisors, but also someone who was of nobility and would have been useful in (say) negotiating dragon-landing rights in Dorne.
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That's true, I guess he figured he couldn't talk his way out of it completely, and figured she'd forgive him if he came clean.
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Lycus posted:That's true, I guess he figured he couldn't talk his way out of it completely, and figured she'd forgive him if he came clean. Which is one of her weaknesses - she's not into the whole 'forgiveness' thing, and almost every house in Westeros (except for who, the Tyrells and the Martells?) is going to think that she is going to come after them for the Rebellion, instead of just telling them to bend the knee. She basically didn't learn anything from what Jonah was trying to teach her an episode or two ago and it's going to bite her in the rear end.
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Whilst it's normally really painful to listen to the Rooster Teeth guys talk about GoT, Burnie had an interesting quip a few weeks back. Why the gently caress would Dany even want to come to Westeros? The place is absolute poo poo hole with practically zero redeeming qualities. The only places that aren't completely awful seem to be Highgarden, a goldless Casterly Rock and Whiteharbour. Interestingly, all places we have never visited; so I'm sure if we did, it would turn out that they are complete dumps as well. Compare this to Braavos, Slavers Bay and Qarth and I would take my sweet time invading the West as well.
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xcore posted:Whilst it's normally really painful to listen to the Rooster Teeth guys talk about GoT, Burnie had an interesting quip a few weeks back. You forgot Sunspear. But I agree that the East looks alot better than Westeros in several ways. If I was forced to live in this world, I would choose Braavos or Dorne. Yureina fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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Nah, I'd say Slavers' Bay is a bigger shithole than Westeros. The Free Cities seem cool, but not Slavers' Bay.
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xcore posted:Whilst it's normally really painful to listen to the Rooster Teeth guys talk about GoT, Burnie had an interesting quip a few weeks back. Well they don't allow slavery for one thing. Also I'm sure she sees the throne as some sort of birthright and its her duty to her people to take it back.
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Speleothing posted:At the very least Alfie Allen needs some serious recognition for how much he's killing it. I can acknowledge that his most recent scene with the Ironborn was very well acted but my brain just associates theon with the torture scenes and it's impossible for me to not be bored whenever he's on screen. I assume the same will happen whenever Dany finally does something cool in like season 8
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Away all Goats posted:So what was up with the pardon letter Barristan Selmy got? They said it had Robert's signature, which means it was (or might have been) the original pardon Jorah got back in Season 1. Did he really keep it around so someone can find it? Or did someone forge Robert's signature? Probably a forgery, but it also makes sense to make multiple copies of all official documents.
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Kasonic posted:Well, Jorah is halfway across the world. I don't think ravens make transoceanic trips. Two years(?) does seem like a long time for one message, though. I thought Robert did sign it two years ago, but Tywin just sent it now since Jorah had gone rogue and he wanted to create division in the ranks.
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xcore posted:Whilst it's normally really painful to listen to the Rooster Teeth guys talk about GoT, Burnie had an interesting quip a few weeks back. She grew up with it being drummed into her head that a great injustice was done to her family, and while she's long since moved out from under the shadow of her brother and become a force to be reckoned with in her own right, that kind of conditioning is hard to shake. The Iron Throne is HERS by right, that's just something she can't let go off any more than Stannis can let go of his own claim.
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ironlung posted:I wonder how much of Roose's motivation to legitimize Ramsay was "you done good, son" versus "this kid is a loving crazy person and I'd rather have him as a devoted son/ally than resent me and eventually turn against me" The thing that has me concerned (Roose is enough of an rear end in a top hat that I wouldn't say I'm "worried" for him) is that Ramsay, thankful as he is, might see that this makes him heir to everything that's his father's now. Which is a lot, considering that with everyone thinking the Starks are dead he's Warden of the North, among other things.
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zoux posted:Haha. Dey fuckd my boy O'brian up! Whaddufuk?!
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