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KoRMaK posted:Yea the blacksmith before the darkroot garden has like two or three large embers. I can go divine, raw, and two others. I think that's one of them. So I should go the standard route then, +6? also if you want to kill the drakes try to go around their sides and stuff, along with having good lightning resist.
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Jun 3, 2014 03:51
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KoRMaK posted:Yea the blacksmith before the darkroot garden has like two or three large embers. I can go divine, raw, and two others. I think that's one of them. So I should go the standard route then, +6? Garg halberd is a perfectly serviceable weapon, and I prefer its moveset over the standard halberd. I'd recommend taking it to +10 normal, unless you really want to make a fire weapon which branches at +5. Divine isn't really good for a main weapon, although you might want one as a backup in one area. At +10, you have the option of taking it down the lightning path as well, which is a solid option when you find the appropriate blacksmith. The scaling isn't great on it so lightning isn't a bad choice. For most weapons, at higher levels, its preferable to have them just be +15 normal, to take advantage of scaling and weapon buffs, but a lightning gargoyle halberd will certainly take you through the game. Its move set isn't great for pvp, but its a pretty good pve weapon and great for tail cutting. Late/late game or ng+, you might want a weapon with better stat scaling to take to +15, and that'll depend on whether you prefer str or dex type weapons. Regarding drakes specifically its not usually worth the effort to kill them unless you hate yourself and are farming dragon scales, but if you want them dead, by all means go ahead 
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Jun 3, 2014 03:54
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Bogart posted:Wait, you can keep the bloated undead from toxxing you if you use fire? But they shoot fire. You don't hit something with what it hits you with. It's actually magic disguised as fire. No really. Block it with the dragon shield and the crest shield, see which blocks the most damage. Those dumb snakemen do the same thing. That lightning? Totally magic.
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Jun 3, 2014 03:57
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Tuxedo Ted posted:Those dumb snakemen do the same thing. That lightning? Totally magic. This is true of nearly every elemental looking enemy spell/attack in the game, which is pretty funny. Including Queelag's and the all the Firesage clone demons' aoe attacks.
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Jun 3, 2014 04:01
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animatorZed posted:This is true of nearly every elemental looking enemy spell/attack in the game, which is pretty funny. So the abominations' fire attack is magic as well?
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Jun 3, 2014 04:09
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I decided to take on Quelaag solo (I usually summon, because it's a fun boss to co-op on) for the first time, and realized how easy she is if you can bait her into attacking with her sword, and then move quickly into her blind spot. The trick is to make sure she never spews lava, or at least does it very infrequently. And then recognizing her AOE telegraph and booking it. I then decided that I wanted to leave the infected hollow near the Daughter of Chaos alive, but accidentally killed him when I chose the wrong dialog prompt... sorry fella. I then decided to take a few attempts at Sen's before calling it a night, and basically waltzed through the whole thing without any problem. That's definitely the best I've felt in this new run so far. I also never realized that Sen's was transparently built by Gwyn as a testing ground before. There are black knight statues littered all over the place, and the snake shamans throw his lightning spears at you. Plus the chained giants (sort of like Gough) are another Gwyn trademark. That was a cool touch that I picked up on this time through.
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Jun 3, 2014 04:10
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neetengie posted:Andre gets Large Ember (up to +10), Very large Ember (+15), Divine, Large Divine, and Dark Ember. Yes, go the standard route. What other weapons do you have in your slots? I have the drake sword and great axe but nothing much that comes close to breaching 100dmg, it's all longswords and halberds and stuff.
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Jun 3, 2014 04:45
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KoRMaK posted:I have the drake sword and great axe but nothing much that comes close to breaching 100dmg, it's all longswords and halberds and stuff.
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Jun 3, 2014 04:58
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Tuxedo Ted posted:It's actually magic disguised as fire. So the only shield that matters is the one with the best Magic resistance? Nice. Also, upgrading your weapon 'simply' (that is to say, +6, +7) will never do you wrong, whereas adding Divinity or Fire or Lightning to your weapon could screw you if you don't know what you're doing. I recall messing up my +10 Bastard Sword by making it Lightning because Solaire uses lightning, right? And he's super strong! So I should too! 
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Jun 3, 2014 06:26
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You can't really go wrong with lightning or fire on a large sword like that. They're better if you're only investing just enough to use them though since they lack the scaling of other upgrade paths. Now, divine and magic can screw you if you aren't specced properly but that should be obvious.
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Jun 3, 2014 07:21
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Bogart posted:So the only shield that matters is the one with the best Magic resistance? Nice. Action Tortoise posted:So the abominations' fire attack is magic as well? While a lot of enemy projectiles are misleading in what actual damage they deal, that doesn't apply to all of them.
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Jun 3, 2014 08:18
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Nahxela posted:Ceaseless Discharge? I'm fairly certain his stuff is all fire. Granted, that thing's going to blast through your shield regardless. Oh no I meant those manbugs in Blighttown. I thought they were called abominations. I forgot to try it this time but if you use the Orange Charred Ring does it reduce the lava damage from Quelaag's attacks?
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Jun 3, 2014 12:01
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Action Tortoise posted:Oh no I meant those manbugs in Blighttown. I thought they were called abominations. You can't have the Orange Charred Ring before Quelaag without cheating, since it removes it from your inventory on NG+, so it probably isn't coded to do anything 
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Jun 3, 2014 12:06
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All I can think about is gathering souls and donking hallows on the head from a distance. I beat the Stray Demon or whatever it is when you go back to the Undead Asylum naked. I learned a lot from that one fight. The main one being that armor isn't necessary if you learn the right way to keep moving and when to keep moving. I now don't even use lock-on for big bosses and instead I like bend my hand (this is on a 360 controller) so that my pointer finger is on the running button and my thumb can stay on the camera joystick and I run around to their blind spots. Locking on prevents this kind of mobility and makes you roll when you actually meant to sprint left.
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Jun 3, 2014 19:34
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I'm really hoping this gets popular on the next Steam sale. Most co-op attempts end in failure (either summoning or being summoned). It'd be nice if connectivity gets better when they ditch GFWL as well.
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Jun 3, 2014 19:40
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sector_corrector posted:I'm really hoping this gets popular on the next Steam sale. Most co-op attempts end in failure (either summoning or being summoned). It'd be nice if connectivity gets better when they ditch GFWL as well. e: Just read the wikia articles. I think I'm going to start leaving white soapstones. If I die, do I lose my ability to be summoned by others? As in, I only get as many co-op lives as I have humanity to burn? KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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Jun 3, 2014 19:50
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KoRMaK posted:I've not once had a co-op experience. I have the white soapstone, and when I am un-hallowed I see red and white ones laying around but no one has ever invaded (except for kirk). Am I missing out on something? You can be summoned if you're hollow or you died as a phantom.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:02
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ChaosArgate posted:You can be summoned if you're hollow or you died as a phantom.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:06
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Action Tortoise posted:Oh no I meant those manbugs in Blighttown. I thought they were called abominations.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:06
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KoRMaK posted:Fuckin' sweet. Why haven't I been putting down white soapstone then? Is there anything to lose? I guess the same goes for invading. If I invade with like only 100 souls what am I risking? You're not risking anything even if you invade with a million souls, unless you do it from a weird place and manage to die walking back to the bloodstain. It's very easy and safe to just invade over and over again as long as you have targets.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:08
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KoRMaK posted:Fuckin' sweet. Why haven't I been putting down white soapstone then? Is there anything to lose? I guess the same goes for invading. If I invade with like only 100 souls what am I risking? If your white soapstone is down, then you can't see other people's white soapstone marks yourself. You can either be able to summon people (if your mark's not down) or be able to be summoned yourself (if your mark is down), but not both at the same time.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:12
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Flumpus posted:Man, I read this at first and thought you meant first time ever seeing them, which I'm sure someone has done, but it would make me really sad and feel very inferior to actually encounter that person (queue someone in this thread being one of those people). Does second try count? Mind you, I kinda cheesed with a zwiehander so I dunno.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:21
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Vil posted:If your white soapstone is down, then you can't see other people's white soapstone marks yourself. You can either be able to summon people (if your mark's not down) or be able to be summoned yourself (if your mark is down), but not both at the same time. So, invading someone else's game doesn't cost any humanity? I feel like I've only seen white/red soapstone when I was unhallowed. If I do that and die, then I've lost the humanity right? If I do die, how do I recover my souls, can I do it by myself or do I have to go back to that players game?
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Jun 3, 2014 20:21
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The Iron Rose posted:Does second try count? Mind you, I kinda cheesed with a zwiehander so I dunno. Heh, sure, I'll feel inferior to anyone that beat it on their second try too, but only because it took me a ridiculous number of tries the first time.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:24
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You can only have one sign down at any given time. If you want to remove your white sign, put down a fresh one and the last one vanishes. Then cancel the new one.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:24
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KoRMaK posted:So, invading someone else's game doesn't cost any humanity? I feel like I've only seen white/red soapstone when I was unhallowed. If I do that and die, then I've lost the humanity right? If I do die, how do I recover my souls, can I do it by myself or do I have to go back to that players game? Dying as a phantom, whether white or red, doesn't make you hollow. You respawn in your world at the last bonfire you rested at, and your bloodstain appears where you used the multiplayer item, but you remain human.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:27
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I was under the mistaken impression that you had to be human to provide Co-Op until the last 3rd of my previous playthrough. It wasn't until I was watching an LP that I realized you could provide assistance while hollowed. I think that the systems are all super well designed, but I wish Co-Op was a little better. Like, being able to leave my sign anywhere and not have it disappear when I left that boundary would make it much better. I hate having to stand around in an area waiting to be summoned without being able to do other stuff at the same time.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:31
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Suitaru posted:Dying as a phantom, whether white or red, doesn't make you hollow. You respawn in your world at the last bonfire you rested at, and your bloodstain appears where you used the multiplayer item, but you remain human. If you die as a white phantom, you don't even leave your stuff in a bloodstain. KoRMaK posted:How do I clear all the white soapstone I've put down then? Does it just happen on game load or after a certain amount of time or am I expected to go around and find every last summon spot I put down? As already noted, putting it down in place B removes it from place A, and then you can click it in place B to remove it from there too. On top of that, it's automatically removed if you leave the area where you placed the sign. For example, if you place your sign in the Undead Parish, then if you leave the Parish (e.g. take the elevator down to Firelink, head over toward Andre's church) then the sign automatically disappears and you get a message telling you about that. I remember using a mod a while back which removed that restriction and didn't tie you to the area (so long as you didn't go through a loading screen), but it stopped working after some update or other. Finally, it's automatically removed if you die in your own world. Or, of course, if you get successfully summoned.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:34
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You totally can though. Just put it down near a bonfire and run around until you get summoned or if you move on, put it down in the new area.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:35
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Mordaedil posted:You totally can though. Just put it down near a bonfire and run around until you get summoned or if you move on, put it down in the new area. So how do we as goons get hooked up via co-op? This is all I'm going to be doing the next couple days I think.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:40
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Vil posted:On top of that, it's automatically removed if you leave the area where you placed the sign. For example, if you place your sign in the Undead Parish, then if you leave the Parish (e.g. take the elevator down to Firelink, head over toward Andre's church) then the sign automatically disappears and you get a message telling you about that. I remember using a mod a while back which removed that restriction and didn't tie you to the area (so long as you didn't go through a loading screen), but it stopped working after some update or other. Oops. I swear, i'll update the tool when they finally patch the game to get rid of GfWL.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:51
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Vil posted:If you die as a white phantom, you don't even leave your stuff in a bloodstain. Even after over a year of obsessive play I still learn new poo poo about Dark Souls. Shows you how much I invaded and how little I did co-op
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Jun 3, 2014 21:04
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Dying in coop as a phantom has never lost you anything in any of the three games, it is completely safe. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by being summoned as a white phantom/sunbro.
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Jun 3, 2014 22:26
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Is there anyway we can coordinate entering each others games? Ill be on in the next hour or so.
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Jun 3, 2014 22:48
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Use the DSC fix and add people to your GWFL friends list.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:03
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I'm loving Dark Souls so far, but I seem to drop to really slow framerates sometimes, typically outside or when I kindle a bonfire. I'm using DSFix to run at 1920x1080, but AA and AO are both off. I'm guessing that Dark Souls is more CPU intensive, but I'm running an i5 4970 that should be able to handle it. GPU is GTX 760. Does anyone have any tricks to get there framerate consistently at the 30fps cap?
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Jun 3, 2014 23:16
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Suspicious Dish posted:Use the DSC fix and add people to your GWFL friends list. GFWL name is KoRMaK1
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Jun 3, 2014 23:21
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Caddrel posted:I'm loving Dark Souls so far, but I seem to drop to really slow framerates sometimes, typically outside or when I kindle a bonfire. I'm using DSFix to run at 1920x1080, but AA and AO are both off. If you have not already, unlock the fps in dsfix but cap it at 30.
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First time player here. I'm in the depths, which sure looks like it's this game's sewer level. I came across a giant rat, presumably the end boss of the level, but I fell down a hole and now I'm in a deep area with poison frogs. How big is this area drag, because I'm getting seriously sick of these tunnels? Also, are there more than 2 exits (as in, the entrance you enter, and the (assumed) exit)?
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