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jackofarcades posted:
9:27 AM - 3 Jun 2014: Irony's official time of death
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Someone just reply to his tweet with these, one by one:      
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Jun 3, 2014 20:01
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zeroprime posted:Someone just reply to his tweet with these, one by one: Those people are just supporting real patriotic veterans in the fight against the lies of their former traitorous comrade. 
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Jun 3, 2014 20:02
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The party of ARE TROOPS are exploring the idea a former POW should be executed. This is beyond the pale. http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/06/03/bowe-bergdahl-desertion-charges This is currently one of the top stories on Drudge and he has it in big red ALERT text.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:02
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It's going to be like a dark comedy if it turns out the dude was safer as a Taliban POW than in the GOP controlled United States for the crime of being somewhat good publicity for Obama.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:04
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Fox News already called for impeachment over it. http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/06/03/foxs-legal-analyst-andrew-napolitano-endorses-c/199556 A little foreplay would be nice now and then guys, jeez.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:08
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Lester Shy posted:The party of ARE TROOPS are exploring the idea a former POW should be executed. This is beyond the pale. Don't read the comments. Or rather do, see where wild speculation can take you!
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Jun 3, 2014 20:10
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I really want every Democratic president to get impeached for the next 20 years since it will be hilarious in the history books. Also seriously getting linked in the Drudge Report is like releasing the flying monkeys to the comments section. The hypocrites that are outraged that six guys died because he wandered off/went AWOL but not at the people that sent thousands to go die for no reason (and at no personal risk) is aggravating as usual. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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Jun 3, 2014 20:10
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Fox News already called for impeachment over it. Feb 26 2013: Fox Legal Analyst Andrew Napolitano Floats Obama Impeachment Over Sequester Spending Cut Echo...echo...echo
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Jun 3, 2014 20:11
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Flaggy posted:Don't read the comments. Or rather do, see where wild speculation can take you! LETS SHOOT THIS MAN WITHOUT ANY LEGITIMATE EVIDENCE SUPPORTING A NEED TO DO SO -people who will parade around the constitution like it's their holy text
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Jun 3, 2014 20:12
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Fox News already called for impeachment over it. Calling for impeachment is kind of Napolitano's thing when he isn't already preoccupied lamenting the positive portrayal of Lincoln and the supreme court decision allowing interracial marriage.
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Jun 3, 2014 20:14
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How is the right going to possibly win the messaging war on this one? It takes a whole lot of shenanigans to convince the casual voter that rescuing a POW is somehow bad. Their glee over the VA scandal might have emboldened them a bit too much, I really don't see this working for them in the end. Although I guess the media could fall for another swift boat style campaign, it's been a few years...
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Jun 3, 2014 21:50
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Sir Tonk posted:How is the right going to possibly win the messaging war on this one? It takes a whole lot of shenanigans to convince the casual voter that rescuing a POW is somehow bad. Depending on the metric you use, they already are winning the message war on this one. The fact we got him back isn't being portrayed as bad, but the achievement is being devalued and the means we used to get him back are being portrayed as bad. And hell, for once Obama actually did something that was sorta technically illegal
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Jun 3, 2014 22:04
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Good Citizen posted:
Maybe. I mean, I think the transfer has been planned/known for 2 years. And he uses a signing statement, a process that wasn't a problem for the 700 or so issued by Bush, but Obama issues his 30th and, well...
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Jun 3, 2014 22:10
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e: I misread the previous reply and am dumb
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Jun 3, 2014 22:18
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Good Citizen posted:Depending on the metric you use, they already are winning the message war on this one. The fact we got him back isn't being portrayed as bad, but the achievement is being devalued and the means we used to get him back are being portrayed as bad. It is being portrayed as a bad thing all across the RW. I don't know what success metric could include the self-proclaimed military aligned party, that has branded NEVER LEAVE A MAN BEHIND and BENGHAZI into their collective foreheads, doing a very public 180 and wondering aloud whether or not we should've left an American POW in the hands of the Taliban over hearsay. And tying themselves to a literal PR operation to smear a P.O.W. before he hit the ground. Whether or not they're correct in their assessment of Bergdahl, they tipped their hand. The nightly news is going to be showing Obama bringing home a soldier and the GOP grousing about it in an easily recognizable fit of Obama Derangement Syndrome. Obama didn't spike the OBL ball, he wasn't about to do it here, and I really doubt they're dreading yet another clownshow house hearing into why they decided to save an American soldiers life.
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Jun 3, 2014 22:39
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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/oliver-north-yes-oliver-north-accuses-obama-financing-terrorist-organization-bergdahl-releas I am sorry, I cant do it, I hate the right wing in this country, I honest to god hate them. I use hyperbole as much as the next goon, But i honestly hate the GOP and the right wing right now.
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Jun 3, 2014 22:46
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Anti-vaxxers are morons, for sure, and need to be humiliated whenever possible, but it does no one any favors when people like Jon Stewart promote this false equivalence bullshit. Stuff like this will be used by right-wing and centrist douchebags as a counter to liberal attacks against conservatives on things like evolution and climate change.
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Jun 3, 2014 22:48
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What's shocking to me is that there's already enough mud in the water with "we don't negotiate with terrorists" and "Obama broke the law by not giving Congress enough notice." I mean, I don't find those particularly compelling arguments, but if you work those angles you can say "Yes we're glad he's home, but it was done the wrong way." You don't have to have to take the completely bizarre position that he was a traitor and deserved to be left with the Taliban, especially when so many on the right are on record calling for his release. I guess they learned from bin Laden that you can't just cry about Obama taking too much credit; everything he does has to be bad in every way possible. Crosspost from the US Politics thread: Lester Shy posted:GOP lawmakers are quickly trying to whitewash their previous statements on Bergdahl. Two from today:
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Jun 3, 2014 23:02
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So Seattle raised their min. wage to a whopping $15/hr. I totally support jacking up the min. wage and all, but I do pray that a raise this high won't end up being detrimental.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:04
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Mr Interweb posted:Anti-vaxxers are morons, for sure, and need to be humiliated whenever possible, but it does no one any favors when people like Jon Stewart promote this false equivalence bullshit. Stuff like this will be used by right-wing and centrist douchebags as a counter to liberal attacks against conservatives on things like evolution and climate change. 911 Truthers do make a pretty good match for Birth Certificate Truthers, though.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:08
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Mr Interweb posted:So Seattle raised their min. wage to a whopping $15/hr. I totally support jacking up the min. wage and all, but I do pray that a raise this high won't end up being detrimental. Both morally and politically: if a business can't pay its employees living wage, is their closure or departure really detrimental? Waiters make >$9/hr (pre-tip) in both WA and OR, the state's already an outlier and the city is a place people move for non-job reasons anyway. If any American city can handle a minimum living wage, it's Seattle.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:11
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Mr Interweb posted:So Seattle raised their min. wage to a whopping $15/hr. I totally support jacking up the min. wage and all, but I do pray that a raise this high won't end up being detrimental. We are in a post-facts society. The next Google super company could come out of Seattle but minus the gentrifying housing issues and the only think you will hear will be about how now people have to pay $300 for a burger and that every worker has been replaced by robots.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:21
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Mr Interweb posted:So Seattle raised their min. wage to a whopping $15/hr. I totally support jacking up the min. wage and all, but I do pray that a raise this high won't end up being detrimental. I said it in the Seattle meet thread but frankly with my life, the economy, and the profit/wage gap over the last 10 years+, I don't have an ear for even a legitimate complaint against the wage hike. No one wondered whether it'd be detrimental to completely uncouple wages from profits and basically give the entire country a pay cut year after year for more than a decade. They just said hey this is good for us, guess you can deal with it. Yeah I'm worried about the effects and job market in the short term, but the fact is those worries and effects wouldn't exist if we were getting paid a fair wage in the first place. It's a pain associated with a curing a festered wound, not an elective surgery. So yeah a 15 dollar minimum wage is good for me, guess they can loving deal with it. Lucky for them they have a hundred different ways of dealing with it and I would venture a guess that not many of them include "starving" or "living in your umbrella companies basement".
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Jun 3, 2014 23:25
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I think a lot of people (both Dems and GOP) are terrified that the $15 minimum wage won't result in zombies feasting on overpriced fastfood as the city burns and are going to do their best to try and either talk down the benefits or actively sabotage businesses. If in the short term businesses do leave than look out for LOTS of news on that subject in pretty much every media outlet.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:29
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Radish posted:I think a lot of people (both Dems and GOP) are terrified that the $15 minimum wage won't result in zombies feasting on overpriced fastfood as the city burns and are going to do their best to try and either talk down the benefits or actively sabotage businesses. If in the short term businesses do leave than look out for LOTS of news on that subject in pretty much every media outlet. Luckily we have a whip smart point woman now for opposition to this. And frankly as a tea partying bootstraps conservative I'm happy to see businesses that rely on welfare to survive ran out of town.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:38
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http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/03/3444491/allen-west-bergdahl-white-house-mosque/ apparently Allen "ronin" west thinks that speaking Arabic causes binding rituals. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 00:04
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pengun101 posted:http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/03/3444491/allen-west-bergdahl-white-house-mosque/ Allen West has more faith in the power of Islam than most muslims themselves. May blessings be upon him. Allahu Snackbar.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:20
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Sarah Palin bitching about Bergdahl is so disgusting and really gets to the heart of how she really views the armed forces. They're all doing it today, even "left wing media outlets" like CNN. I'm not sure what their point is. I guess if the guy cracked and ran out into the desert and deserted his post, he wasn't worth being rescued? Is that right? I guess he should just be left to rot? Or shot in the street? But then again, like someone else posted, 4 years ago Palin was all "where's Obama and why won't he rescue this brave man?" It really is, at this stage, Obama does a thing, here's why it sucks and is bad. They criticize him for all the wrong reasons. They think the left is enamored with him but every hard liberal I know is luke-warm at best and wish he were MORE liberal. Then they say the left did the same thing to Bush even though Congress gave him every thing he wanted except for privatizing Social Security (thank God). The gently caress is going on here? Their quotes are RIGHT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO READ and half the country worships at the altar of their hypocrisy.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:22
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Luckily we have a whip smart point woman now for opposition to this. And frankly as a tea partying bootstraps conservative I'm happy to see businesses that rely on welfare to survive ran out of town. This, I never understood how places like  were happy to poo poo on food stamps but, completely ignored corporate welfare which without seeing any numbers I'd be willing to gamble my next meal that spending on it far outstrips SNAP spending.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:28
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pengun101 posted:http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/03/3444491/allen-west-bergdahl-white-house-mosque/ Either West is gearing up for a Presidential run or a talk show bid, because he's been flailing desperately over these last few weeks to raise his visibility. I hope he never stops 
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Jun 4, 2014 00:30
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He's probably trying to stay in the spotlight to make sure people remember to buy his book.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:32
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Azuth0667 posted:This, I never understood how places like is a right wing shill and the right wing is bought and paid for.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:37
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Good Citizen posted:Either West is gearing up for a Presidential run or a talk show bid, because he's been flailing desperately over these last few weeks to raise his visibility. Oh god, can you imagine Allen West vs. Ben Carson vs. Herman "The Cain Train" Cain?
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Jun 4, 2014 00:47
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pengun101 posted:http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/03/3444491/allen-west-bergdahl-white-house-mosque/ I will never get over how much his head looks like a soup can.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:52
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Mr Interweb posted:Oh god, can you imagine Allen West vs. Ben Carson vs. Herman "The Cain Train" Cain? Probably something like this: 2016 posted:How can you say our policies are racist? We've got three negros running! Three!
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Jun 4, 2014 00:57
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BiggerBoat posted:They're all doing it today, even "left wing media outlets" like CNN. I'm not sure what their point is. I guess if the guy cracked and ran out into the desert and deserted his post, he wasn't worth being rescued? Is that right? I guess he should just be left to rot? Or shot in the street? I now have the tiniest appreciation for how easy it is to just mindlessly use patriotism as an attack, I'd love to see the reaction to someone yelling "So we should have just left him with the Taliban? You don't supports the troops, you must hate America!"  It's mindless, it ignores all the nuance in the situation, it attacks the person rather than the issue, and it's a textbook attack the right uses, but goddamn would it be fun watching them scramble in response. E: I really want the right to just go full-on impeachment over this since there's actually a tiny grain of truth they can charge Obama with (not letting congress know 30 days in advance) and the base really really wants to impeach Obama for fade5 fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 00:57
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Wales Grey posted:2016 posted: 2016 Republican national convention theme colors will be: Red/White/Bleaugh. Bleaugh is black, with some plausible deniability that it's actually just really really dark blue.
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Jun 4, 2014 01:10
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The other side of the crazy conspiracy coin is that if this guy deserted and flipped sides then isn't our getting him into custody kind of a good thing? The logic bites the right wing in the rear end on this either way. A) He's a soldier who made a mistake, and so did not deserve to be left behind. 5 mid-level prisoners who've been rung dry for information for the past 5 years, isolated from their entire support network, and who were about to be released soon anyway were totally a valid trade. B) He's a deserter and traitor. He could do real damage by abusing his position as a soldier somehow in order to hurt Americans or soldiers. Therefore, the US military should have wanted him in custody. 5 mid-level prisoners who've been rung dry for information for the past 5 years, isolated from their entire support network, and who were about to be released soon anyway were totally a valid trade. In either extreme case the trade was a good one, and executive privilege and president being Commander in Chief validate Obama's actions. In a more moderate case where they just try to spread FUD about Bergdahl, it just leads to the conclusion that they feel it's totally okay to leave soldiers behind if there's an ideological disagreement. So I know this is kind of a false trichotomy, but it breaks into the GOP not valuing the lives of soldiers, wanting to politicize individual soldiers, or being weak on national defense. ErIog fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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You guys don't get it. The dude is a deserter who hates America and probably deserves to die. The prisoners they exchanged for him were Osama Bin Laden's right hand men. OBAMA! 
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