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Dezztroy posted:It's not any slower than other T-34s though. It also has excellent turret armor, so going hull-down can make you very hard to kill. Its max speed is on par with most T-34s, but it's 8000lbs heavier than the -34-57 and has only 50 horsepower more, which means in practical terms it's a lot slower. It also seems to shift gears a whole lot slower. Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Fauxtool posted:Am I imagining that the next t-34-85 seems to accelerate quicker? Or is the only real change that it get ACPR? The second T-34-85 gets APCR, reloads faster and has a faster turret rotation. It's a pretty minor upgrade in all.
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Fart Car '97 posted:It's not any slower on paper, but its acceleration is poo poo compared to the -34-57, and it takes forever to shift gears comparatively as well. Well you can look forward to the t-44 at least. I wasnt very excited at using the same gun over and over but after test driving it I noticed it can turn like a mofo. It turns very well at high speed and and can do a stationary circle in 8s. That doesnt sound great but compare it to t-34 before with a 17s time and its really quick. Make sure you are holding forward to turn faster. Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 15:22
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Basically the T-34-57 was everything I expected a medium tank to be and going from it to the -85 feels like going from the best T3 tank to the worst.
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Fart Car '97 posted:Basically the T-34-57 was everything I expected a medium tank to be and going from it to the -85 feels like going from the best T3 tank to the worst. yeah everything after has penetrated less, reloaded slower and moved worse while panthers stay as hard to kill since your gun doesnt really get better The is-2 is a game changer for Russia since it penetrates everything it sees frontally with ease. If you somehow get super uptiered it can pen the turret ring of the jadgtiger too. By then you are used to paper thin but faster than german heavies so its not so bad Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Fart Car '97 posted:Basically the T-34-57 was everything I expected a medium tank to be and going from it to the -85 feels like going from the best T3 tank to the worst. You'll have a better time in SB, thanks to no name tags. Even though Minimap spotting is a thing. But a better time doesn't mean: "lord of the ring". Which is what the T-34 57 is.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:You'll have a better time in SB, thanks to no name tags. Even though Minimap spotting is a thing. But a better time doesn't mean: "lord of the ring". Which is what the T-34 57 is. I dont get the reference. please explain it to me 
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Jun 4, 2014 15:53
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T-34-85 is perfectly fine, it's just that T-34-57 is outright unfair.
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Jun 4, 2014 15:58
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How is the 34-57 unfair? The Pz3M, PzIV F2/G, and StugF/Jagdpanzer are more than a match for it 
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Jun 4, 2014 16:04
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I wouldn't call it unfair, it's just really, really good.
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Fart Car '97 posted:How is the 34-57 unfair? The Pz3M/IV F2/G are more than a match for it They can both kill each other, but only the 57 has the mobility and ability to snap shot so well. The guns are comparable in that they both shoot pretty flat, but the 57 does damage above what its shell size would indicate
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Jun 4, 2014 16:06
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The -57 is more mobile, the German tanks get more reliable one-shot-kills all around (and generally better TDs). Seems like all is right at BR 3.7 to me.
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Fart Car '97 posted:How is the 34-57 unfair? The Pz3M, PzIV F2/G, and StugF/Jagdpanzer are more than a match for it I wouldn't call it unfair but it's probably the best tank in that BR range by a long shot. It's got a gun that can murder anything it sees, is fantastically mobile, and is at least comparable in durability to its peers.
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Fauxtool posted:They can both kill each other, but only the 57 has the mobility and ability to snap shot so well. The guns are comparable in that they both shoot pretty flat, but the 57 does damage above what its shell size would indicate And then you get to a tier where you have Panthers, Tigers against T-34/85s which are basically worse than them in every respect.
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Here's a short lesson on how important shot placement is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB4NAwszHSo
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Jun 4, 2014 16:28
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T-34-85s can easily kill Tigers and Panthers by shooting their turret. Tigers and Panthers can easily kill T-34-85s by shooting their hull, the turret will regularly bounce 75mm L/70 rounds. The T-34 also has a higher RoF.
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Fart Car '97 posted:Here's a short lesson on how important shot placement is: I'm uncertain, are you being serious because he shot you in a poo poo place and you were able to react and wreck him? Or are you being sarcastic because you believe this is a point and click cartoon game and you just pointed and clicked and he blew up? E: clarity
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It is a Serious Vidtm. He shot me in a stupid place, and I turned and snap-shotted him right through the  He had me dead to rights and instead died like a chump 
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Jun 4, 2014 16:40
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Also paint your tank bright yellow because its hard to aim when looking into the sun.
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Fart Car '97 posted:It is a Serious Vidtm. He shot me in a stupid place, and I turned and snap-shotted him right through the that video is about shot placement being important. The enemy would have killed you if he aimed better
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a quote is not an edit
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Okay cool. Sometimes it is hard to tell in this thread. e: although admittedly, given that it wasn't posted by Thief or bUm I should have known better.
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FYI shooting in the slit can sometimes lead to unwanted complications.
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Man if your tanks aren't all painted fuckoff bright/neon colors you can just 
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I think that's why he missed. The tactical glare induced seizure is a valid defensive upgrade.
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dude that guy died irl of a seizure, not cool
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Fart Car '97 posted:It is a Serious Vidtm. He shot me in a stupid place, and I turned and snap-shotted him right through the Are we defining SNAP SHOT as an AIMED SHOT here? 
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Fart Car '97 posted:If only I could be so grossly incandescent. Now I want a skin that has hatches drawn about six inches to the left and the outline of the others obscured by bright colors.
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Jun 4, 2014 17:14
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I'm going to paint false slits on the thickest parts of my armor.
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X-ray tank skin with skeletons for crew.
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Stanley Pain posted:Are we defining SNAP SHOT as an AIMED SHOT here? My aim so good there's no difference Thief posted:X-ray tank skin with skeletons for crew. Only if the skeletons are glow in the dark green Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Thief posted:FYI shooting in the slit can sometimes lead to unwanted complications. You see Jimmy, when two tanks love each other very much, the daddy tank fires an APHE round into the mommy tank's driver slit. If they are lucky, some magic happens and the mommy tank gives birth to an explosion. This is the magic of war.
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Is there a trick to flying at low-altitude in RB? It seems like no matter what plane I'm in, the controls surfaces stop working as soon as I try and do a pass on a ground target. I've crashed while pointing up and away from the ground doing a good 400kmh because the plane just kept going straight.
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How low are you? What are you flying? How much time are you giving yourself to pull up? A video might help.
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Ground effect fucks with your control surfaces. True story.
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Stanley Pain posted:Are we defining SNAP SHOT as an AIMED SHOT here? Personally I wouldnt call that a snap shot. The tank was stationary while the turret was aiming. To me a snap shot is something where you peek over a hill or from behind a rock and shoot while the barrel is still bobbing. His crosshair was rock solid when he shot. Both the t-34 and the f2 spend a similar time bobbing before the aim settles, but the oscillations on the f2 are way bigger.
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As it turns out, the "skins" for ground forces are basically just an image dropped on the model. Have a T-34 painted up like it was captured by the Luftwaffe:  e: make sure you rename the .tga or the folder WT creates, I just accidentally killed it trying to get a new blank square. Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Dezztroy posted:T-34-85s can easily kill Tigers and Panthers by shooting their turret. Tigers and Panthers can easily kill T-34-85s by shooting their hull, the turret will regularly bounce 75mm L/70 rounds. The T-34 also has a higher RoF. the latter is far easier to do than the former. German tanks also have more than 0 gun depression which makes it far easier to bring the gun to bear in most encounters. Tigers suffer everywhere except kursk but otherwise era 3 is a blowout in favour of the germans solely on the back of the panther. It has a very very easy time scoring first shot kills against t34-85s and IS-1s while being frontally immune at mid distance and out.
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Wales Grey posted:As it turns out, the "skins" for ground forces are basically just an image dropped on the model. Have a T-34 painted up like it was captured by the Luftwaffe: Why did they paint it that way? I know the germans were stricter than some nations about marking the nationality of their equipment correctly, but what is neon yellow for? I seem contrarian and extra argumentative today because I havent slept in 24 hours BTW, just ignore me.
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Another 'make your shots count' moment just now: I spawned and found myself camped by a tiger and a Panther. I shot the tiger through the machine gun port while I was immune, the second shot in the same spot finished him off. Then I turned and broke the Panther's barrel with one round and then wrecked his transmission with one to the lower glacis. He killed himself after that to spare himself the shame. All in all I took 4 rounds at point blank from a Panther( which had me flanked) and a Tiger and only had one track go red. Literally all they had to do was put a single round mid-hull and it would have been over. I have no idea how bad you have to be at this game to lose like that lol
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