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Zilkin posted:How geopanel heavy are the maps in D3 btw? Almost through 2 now, and I'm not huge fan of how much more geopanel puzzle maps there seems to be in dark hero days compared to the first game.
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Sir Rabia Tirnova posted:Weird request, I bought DisgaeaD2 a while back and was getting through it relatively slowly, when my youngest decided to stuff a million things into my PS3 disc slot, so I'm no longer able to play any disc based games. Open up the PS3 and remove the disc drive. You can probably get inside of it and remove the offending items unless they damaged a gear or scratched the lens. I haven't opened a PS3 before but its normally not terribly hard to get at the insides of a DVD drive in any console or computer drive I've opened.
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Apr 22, 2014 02:23
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How do you use thiefs properly? Seen many guides mention how important mechanic stealing is, but even at about equal level the chances seem pretty low. Not to mention that thiefs seem to suck at dealing damage. I'm currently playing Disgaea 2 and Rozalin does way more damage than my thief, even though they got similar items and are roughly the same level. Feels like I'm missing something.
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Apr 23, 2014 16:55
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Level difference between your thief and the target is the biggest positive factor if I recall correctly, but the HIT on the hands and whether or not you're stealing from the front/side/back also have an effect on the chance. Additionally, the rarity of the item you're trying to steal will also have a negative effect on your chance. My strategy for early stealing is to level some hands up to 10 and make sure my thief's level doesn't lag behind.
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Apr 23, 2014 17:00
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Zilkin posted:How do you use thiefs properly? Seen many guides mention how important mechanic stealing is, but even at about equal level the chances seem pretty low. Not to mention that thiefs seem to suck at dealing damage. I'm currently playing Disgaea 2 and Rozalin does way more damage than my thief, even though they got similar items and are roughly the same level. Feels like I'm missing something. Disgaea 2 Thieves can also Steal Consciousness (Sleep) and that can have an impact on steal chance as well. Put them to sleep, stand behind them, and use a Hand with good HIT on it (you can even run it through the Item World to raise its stat, if you like). Chances are the reason the Thief is doing less damage than Rozalyn has to do with both Aptitudes and Weapon Skill. 
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Apr 23, 2014 19:02
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After only 14 hours, I figured out that the main purpose of the item world is probably only secondary "level up the good items" but primarily "get all the specialists you can from the trash items and cram them into a good one, and gain some XP on the side." I don't think I've been playing this right. Keep forgetting it's designed under last-gen (well, before-last-gen now, really) paradigms.
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Apr 30, 2014 09:13
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My Lovely Horse posted:After only 14 hours, I figured out that the main purpose of the item world is probably only secondary "level up the good items" but primarily "get all the specialists you can from the trash items and cram them into a good one, and gain some XP on the side." I don't think I've been playing this right. Keep forgetting it's designed under last-gen (well, before-last-gen now, really) paradigms. I guess it might be a little soon to be of use but also know that Item Gods always carry the next rank of whatever item you are inside, an essential mechanic especially for getting the best gear. There's also the Hyperdrive that only drops from killing Item God 2.
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Apr 30, 2014 11:20
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Does hight confer an advantage as well? I've heard from various sources that it adds a small percentage bonus, but I've never noticed too much difference myself.
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I got well and truly stuck on Molten Labyrinth, did random poo poo like unlock Ninja and Samurai and get a few specialists for 10 hours, and breezed through the next three chapters. I think I'm getting the hang of it, but this is definitely going to be one of those games where I look at the clear time afterwards and just go directly to drinking. e: or would if I wasn't playing this on train rides 
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May 3, 2014 17:39
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Don't worry about it. These games were meant to eat a lot of time. I think I had over 370 hours clocked on the original PS2 Disgaea. ...I didn't know you didn't have to kill everything in the item world and would leave the game on while I went to bed or work.
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May 4, 2014 02:45
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I have D3 on vita and it seems to come with all of the / most of the bonus characters as part of the package. Is it likely a version of D:D2 will come out with lots of them included? I don't want to buy a £40 game to have loads of extra content locked behind spending another £60 on extra characters.
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May 8, 2014 17:07
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Lethemonster posted:I have D3 on vita and it seems to come with all of the / most of the bonus characters as part of the package. Is it likely a version of D:D2 will come out with lots of them included? I don't want to buy a £40 game to have loads of extra content locked behind spending another £60 on extra characters. Atlus has been doing this for a while with Disgaea now. I do recommend waiting it out.
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May 8, 2014 18:49
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Lethemonster posted:I have D3 on vita and it seems to come with all of the / most of the bonus characters as part of the package. Is it likely a version of D:D2 will come out with lots of them included? I don't want to buy a £40 game to have loads of extra content locked behind spending another £60 on extra characters. We're going to see 4 before D2 on the Vita. I think all the portables have included all the DLC and usually some new additions. If you aren't interested in playing around launch Vita is the way to go with Disgaea.
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May 8, 2014 19:01
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Mithaldu posted:Atlus has been doing this for a while with Disgaea now. I do recommend waiting it out. Atlus doesn't publish Disgaea, they only did the first game before NIS started publishing their own stuff.
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May 8, 2014 19:15
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sentrygun posted:Atlus doesn't publish Disgaea, they only did the first game before NIS started publishing their own stuff. Oh dang. It never quite clicked for me and was just this conglomerate of "japanese guys that put out jrpgs that aren't final fantasy". Thanks for the correction.
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May 8, 2014 20:54
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One thing to remember is that both D3 and D4 got their Vita ports about 3 years after the PS3 release. If that trend continues DD2 Vita version would be released in 2016.
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May 8, 2014 21:08
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I cant put my finger on why but D2 never grabbed me like number 4 did. I should probably go back and finish it though.
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May 9, 2014 09:41
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If anyone cares, the Vita version of Disgaea 4 is now up for pre-order on NISA's website and presumably elsewhere. It has all the DLC and some new stuff and the class skills from Absence of Detention and is all around pretty swell.
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FractalSandwich posted:If anyone cares, the Vita version of Disgaea 4 is now up for pre-order on NISA's website and presumably elsewhere. It has all the DLC and some new stuff and the class skills from Absence of Detention and is all around pretty swell. This got me really excited until I realized the game is 3 months away :/
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FractalSandwich posted:If anyone cares, the Vita version of Disgaea 4 is now up for pre-order on NISA's website and presumably elsewhere. It has all the DLC and some new stuff and the class skills from Absence of Detention and is all around pretty swell. Do they ever release new edition stuff for the old ones? Like, I'm not going to buy a vita just to buy d4 again, but if they release the new edition gameplay changes on the ps3 as DLC, I'd gladly buy it.
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Leper Residue posted:Do they ever release new edition stuff for the old ones? Like, I'm not going to buy a vita just to buy d4 again, but if they release the new edition gameplay changes on the ps3 as DLC, I'd gladly buy it. No they don't. If anything the portable versions usually have changes incorporated into following games eventually
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May 21, 2014 08:04
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The backported features usually feel really weird and out of place anyway, like when they grafted magichange onto the PSP version of D2. Its just a dumb fun thing for people to gently caress around with if they don't feel like going through the postgame for a second time.
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May 21, 2014 08:08
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It looks like D4 Vita has a smaller save file then D3 Vita, 40MB compared to 96MB. I remember D4 having a ton more inventory space too. I'm still amazed at how big the save files are for these games.
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Dude what? Where are you getting that number from? I'm pretty sure my D3 Vita saves are only ~3.5 MB. e: 3168 KB to be exact.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Dude what? Where are you getting that number from? I'm pretty sure my D3 Vita saves are only ~3.5 MB. From the box, maybe that includes some install files.
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pixaal posted:From the box, maybe that includes some install files. It might be hard to tell from that low-resolution picture, but it says "4096 KB".
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:This got me really excited until I realized the game is 3 months away :/ I keep getting excited but then I realize I have to start all over again. I'm just not sure i'm up to it after the 250 hours on my PS3 save. :\ All of the DLC though is really nice, I didn't get any of that for PS3.
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FractalSandwich posted:It might be hard to tell from that low-resolution picture, but it says "4096 KB". Okay I read an extra 0, the D3 box in front of me says 96MB so I don't know whats going on with that.
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I am playing Disgaea 3 on the vita, and i have a few questions. I am just after Mao's heart where the jumping into items has become a thing. 1. Is there anyway to make looking around the map better? The angled views doesn't show everything very well, and using my finger on the touch pad to tilt the camera doesn't allow me to keep it in that position so i can issue orders. 2. I keep getting destroyed, a few of my characthers can hold their own like Mao, the used to be a hero guy, and the fighter. But the majority of the rest just cannot survive very long to get any sort of decent XP. 3. Where can i get more of those items to escape an item dungeon? 4. There is a bunch of names like master on an item, and for the life of me i cannot figure out what they mean. 5. Can i just level up low items? Or should i just wait to get much more expensive items and level those up?
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UberJumper posted:I am playing Disgaea 3 on the vita, and i have a few questions. I am just after Mao's heart where the jumping into items has become a thing. I haven't played D3, so I can't answer all these for sure, but: 2. Grinding tends to be a part of the Disgaea series. If your team is getting creamed by enemies on the current map, go back to a previous map with weaker enemies to level them up a bit. Otherwise, get better gear, I guess. 3. Typically those are the first item on the bonus list for beating every 10th level of an item (so level 10, 20, etc.). The games often have other ways of getting them, but I don't know what they are in D3. 4. Those are "innocents" or "residents" or whatever. They boost various stats of the item (Attack, Magic, HP, etc.), or they give other benefits (more HL from battles, faster weapon mastery, etc.). When going through the item world, you may run across them as monsters- when they randomly show up, the game will point them out at the start of battle. They're neutral, so the other enemies will try to kill them. If you kill them first, they become "subdued", which doubles their level and lets you move them to other items. 5. You can level up whatever items you want. However, you're probably better off waiting until you get very late-game items before you spend any serious time in the item world, or you'll be playing the game forever.
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Generally speaking you shouldn't need to spend much or any time grinding in any Disgaea game's story. If you're being stomped out, go ahead and try leveling an item for a bit and then toss that item onto someone you're using. It'll usually feel like you're way stronger all of a sudden. Different people play differently, but I personally tend to only have a few powerful units and then just people hanging around to throw and/or apply map-wide evilities. If you're having trouble keeping all your guys leveled up, stop trying that and just figure out who your favorite ones are and stick with those. D3 is where main characters got way better, so you can get away with using them instead of generics if you like them more. Some are probably flat out better than generics in every way, especially a couple of the DLC characters for D3. No clue when those unlock in the Vita version though. If you want to find out what the Innocents mean, looking up a guide is your best bet. There should be a few good lists around and it's not too hard to memorize the important ones after a bit. D2 swapped a few of them around for no good reason which gets confusing if you're used to some of the older ones, but it also has something in-game that actually tells you what each of them does which makes it a lot easier to stomach.
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You should also keep in mind that enemies in Disgaea 3 and 4 tend to hit really hard in general past the first two chapters thanks to skill boosting, which isn't really something you can fix besides using Item World to find a bunch of good weapons to kill them first with. Item World is pretty great in general in the main story because you'll get a lot of HL to buy new weapons with, find new weapons through the Bonus Gauge on levels with easy Geo Block setups, and level up your own guys, in addition to the obvious bonus of leveling an item.
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In these games, the best way to stay alive is to focus on your Speed stat. If you can really pump that up, nothing will be able to hit you in the first place. This tends to mean putting three pairs of shoes on everyone. Maybe A pair of glasses instead of one pair of shoes if you're having trouble hitting the enemy. Couple that with the strongest weapons you can get a hold of.
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I said come in! posted:I keep getting excited but then I realize I have to start all over again. I'm just not sure i'm up to it after the 250 hours on my PS3 save. :\ All of the DLC though is really nice, I didn't get any of that for PS3. I actually never bought D4 specifically to wait for it as a portable game. They take FOREVER to port them though, it would have been 3 years since release. It was tough holding out on the game everyone was saying was the best one in a while too.
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sentrygun posted:Generally speaking you shouldn't need to spend much or any time grinding in any Disgaea game's story. If you're being stomped out, go ahead and try leveling an item for a bit and then toss that item onto someone you're using. It'll usually feel like you're way stronger all of a sudden.
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Anyone got any tips for Disgaea 2 psp? I just started it a couple of days ago, so far I'm up to the part where you recruit Tink. I heard that magic knights are powerful so I'm working towards unlocking those. It seems kind of mean of the game to give you access to item world after the second map when you're level 2.
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Brasseye posted:Anyone got any tips for Disgaea 2 psp? I just started it a couple of days ago, so far I'm up to the part where you recruit Tink. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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UberJumper posted:1. Is there anyway to make looking around the map better? The angled views doesn't show everything very well, and using my finger on the touch pad to tilt the camera doesn't allow me to keep it in that position so i can issue orders. Press Square + L twice to get a different angle, but apart from that I think that's it. The high angle works pretty well though in my experience.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I actually never bought D4 specifically to wait for it as a portable game. They take FOREVER to port them though, it would have been 3 years since release.   Actually thanks to the Vita even when a JRPG isn't creepland (at least when they jump up the same rear end anime did it saves me money) I usually can't justify it on PS3 anymore, not just because it means portable but because the Vita version usually has the like 40 bucks of DLC baked-in. Of course, given how the Vita's going, that may not be a problem for long. 
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Star Magic seems to be generally overpowered in these games. It's got all sorts of versatility in areas it can hit, range it can reach, and is never mitigated by elemental resistances. Make a Mage of some sort, give 'em good INT and a nice Staff, and faceroll everything. Is there anything that can compete with Star Magic?
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