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I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Grrl Anachronism posted:

I don't know anything about this guy after a brief googling other than he was a porn star and supposedly died after being bitten by a rattlesnake- what would this be a cover for? Overdose?

HIV/AIDS would be my guess. Specifically the part where you get the lesions.

You ever see that movie Philadelphia?

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MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

Xelkelvos posted:

What do you know about the Japanese sex industry and what's your take on it?

And passing this along from a friend: Have you worked with any performers with Type 1 Diabetes and if so, how to they hide their scars or what do they do with their infusion sets?

Vice has a short that involves interviewing a Japanese "extreme porn" director... Like the company with eels and fish and turtles coming out of butts and stuff.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Xelkelvos posted:

What do you know about the Japanese sex industry and what's your take on it?

And passing this along from a friend: Have you worked with any performers with Type 1 Diabetes and if so, how to they hide their scars or what do they do with their infusion sets?

Speaking as someone with type 1 diabetes, there's no real outward physical signs that you have the condition if you just use insulin pens. Occasional tiny needle marks and bruising but even that can generally be avoided if you change your needles regularly and are careful with them. They're very, very small and fine. Maybe marks on the fingertips from blood glucose testing would be a tiny bit more visible, but not by much and the fingers are hardly a focus in most standard porn. People using insulin pumps might be a bit more difficult, but I'd imagine few performers would choose to use of those while active.

Any problems that would arise would likely be down to hypoglycemia etc on set which (take it from me) is a real hard-on killer, and I've heard makes things difficult for women too, lubrication wise. Technically no reason that couldn't be accomodated for in the same way you get the occasional diabetic athlete but certainly something that would need to be considered and would really make me think twice before taking on this kind of role even if all the other boxes were ticked.

Also interested in the Japanese question, though!

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001

darkpriest posted:

That is correct. I don't recall any goons ever following through, though many claimed they would.

One of my closest friends posts on another forum that is sort of similar to SA. He's been on there as long as I've been on here. We ended up getting some extras from that forum community and they have fairly consistently followed through when I've been looking for extras.

I might do a stripper themed movie and need extras again soon.

If you ever wanted to do something mil themed, I can promise GiP would come through.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

Obama Africanus posted:

If you ever wanted to do something mil themed, I can promise GiP would come through.

N4I can do gay scenes but he's into big hairy fat dudes.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Oh where, oh where could we ever find an overabundant supply of hairy fat dudes?

Tasty_Crayon
Jul 29, 2006
Same story, different version.

I was watching a porn blooper reel that had several clips with girls orgasming unexpectedly and 'derailing' the scene? What's up with that? Was it written in, or will girls occasionally come and halt the action?

Wootiebabeh
Dec 21, 2009




Tasty_Crayon posted:

I was watching a porn blooper reel that had several clips with girls orgasming unexpectedly and 'derailing' the scene? What's up with that? Was it written in, or will girls occasionally come and halt the action?

It seems like you answered the your question with the sentence preceding it.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012
Where do they find the performers for the hard/extreme BDSM shoots? I find it difficult to imagine someone signing up to be caned until they're raw and bleeding, or to have needles pushed through their nipples/genitals, or half drowned, or... etc, etc. Of course, all this exists. Where do they find the models?

Mymla
Aug 12, 2010
Some people are just genuinely into being caned until they're raw and bleeding. And even if they're not, hell, I'd probably do it if it paid well enough.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp
Does anyone do two camera /split screen shoots showing the penetration and the girl's face simultaneously? That's a shot I would suggest.

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..
Pretty sure I've seen some casting couch videos that did just exactly that. Usually it's during the anal scene.

VirtualStranger
Aug 20, 2012

:lol:
When looking at the content of the so-called "passionate" studios (X-Art, Babes.com, Passion-HD) they all seem to have a huge overabundance of a single color. Namely, white. Just about every object on their sets are white, the walls, sheets, pillows, couches, counter tops, drapes, and even the carpet is white. They even film the scenes right in front of these huge windows so that the room is flooded with as much pure white light as possible. It always has the effect of making the color palette look very muted and washed out.

It seems like they do this on purpose, but why?

Woden
May 6, 2006

Mymla posted:

Some people are just genuinely into being caned until they're raw and bleeding. And even if they're not, hell, I'd probably do it if it paid well enough.

I watched a doco about Insex a while ago and there was one lady that thought she had to pay to get that poo poo done to her and was willing to do so. If you have weird kinks I can definitely see how they'd be hard to realize in your personal life.

Some of the women did it for the money though and others to get exposure so they could start their own site.

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell

Jeherrin posted:

Where do they find the performers for the hard/extreme BDSM shoots? I find it difficult to imagine someone signing up to be caned until they're raw and bleeding, or to have needles pushed through their nipples/genitals, or half drowned, or... etc, etc. Of course, all this exists. Where do they find the models?

The demand for it exists because there are people who like doing it and having it done to them. Quite a lot of the performers do it in their personal lives - certainly more than most pornstars go and do anal or gangbangs when they're off camera. Some are just desperate for money, of course, but for others it's a real desire.

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

Jeherrin posted:

Where do they find the performers for the hard/extreme BDSM shoots? I find it difficult to imagine someone signing up to be caned until they're raw and bleeding, or to have needles pushed through their nipples/genitals, or half drowned, or... etc, etc. Of course, all this exists. Where do they find the models?

NGL one of my goals with losing weight was "be HWP enough to possibly get called to model for kink.com". They pay well, and honestly, it looks like fun on the less extreme end. Plus James Deen. :swoon:. I'm a lesbian and I'd let James Deen do whatever he wishes to me. I wouldn't do it for Intersec just because they market far far rougher stuff than a lot of the kink.com offerings.

Is there a market for slightly overweight chicks? I mean i know everyone has their kink, but even "amateur" or "real sex tapes" sites all the female models seem to be rail thin, rather than "average". You'd think there would be more of a market for thick girls that aren't BBW, since I know a lot of guys who are into that, but it seems everyone in porn is a size 4 or below.

\/\/ That's about where I am now, old Sara Rue. Proof that you don't need to be a stick thin person to be attractive. It helps, but look at Adele before she lost weight too. It always seemed like a fun way to earn money as a chick. I mean, yeah there's the stigma, but (in vanilla porn at least) you're getting paid to deal with some slightly uncomfortable positions and have not-so-fun sex. I like sex, I don't mind having to shoot the same scene 4 times, and I don't mind being bent into uncomfortable positions for a few hours to get the good camera angles. But a couple hundred bucks for a weekend of somewhat awkward sex seems like a good deal.

DarkPriest, what would you say is the worst thing female models have to deal with during the shoot? You mention that guys have to always be "on" with an erection ready and even during downtime like switching positions and angles he really can't lose his erection. Obviously female models don't have that problem, but i'm sure there are other things they have to deal with that make shoots actual work for the models. Also do you and a lot of other companies pay travel? I know kink does, but is that common? Cause gently caress, I'd start modelling now to supplement my income if I could find a decent company. The hardest part it seems is finding companies that aren't shady. I'm sure the really bad ones that don't require testing, and suddenly spring things that the model wasn't expecting on them go out of business super fast, but porn seems like construction where it's really easy for a lovely company to close up shop and then reopen a day later under a different name.

Dr Jankenstein fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jun 2, 2014

TerryLennox
Oct 12, 2009

There is nothing tougher than a tough Mexican, just as there is nothing gentler than a gentle Mexican, nothing more honest than an honest Mexican, and above all nothing sadder than a sad Mexican. -R. Chandler.

AA is for Quitters posted:

NGL one of my goals with losing weight was "be HWP enough to possibly get called to model for kink.com". They pay well, and honestly, it looks like fun on the less extreme end. Plus James Deen. :swoon:. I'm a lesbian and I'd let James Deen do whatever he wishes to me. I wouldn't do it for Intersec just because they market far far rougher stuff than a lot of the kink.com offerings.

Is there a market for slightly overweight chicks? I mean i know everyone has their kink, but even "amateur" or "real sex tapes" sites all the female models seem to be rail thin, rather than "average". You'd think there would be more of a market for thick girls that aren't BBW, since I know a lot of guys who are into that, but it seems everyone in porn is a size 4 or below.

Slightly overweight, that's a shoe in for the industry. It's basically what every man means for when we say "I like my women to have meat on their bones." I personally cannot stand BBWs which apparently means nearly amoebic in proportions and size.

Sara Rue is my example when people ask what I consider chubby. She has lost a lot of weight recently but she was FINE before she did.

Edit: I actually want to clarify my point about Sara Rue. She was hot before she lost and is still hot after she did.

TerryLennox fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jun 3, 2014

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Well I sure learned something cool about AA is for Quitters today.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

So that's a "No" on the gently caress-machine blueprints, then? :(
This, but with dongs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pen3QMgzQ

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
Do prod companies provide wardrobe for nonfeatures

Euphoriaphone
Aug 10, 2006

When you talk about the gay industry it sounds like you're only talking about guy/guy. Is there a girl/girl gay industry that's also separated from the straight one, and are those actresses "stigmatized" the same way gay male actors are?

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Euphoriaphone posted:

When you talk about the gay industry it sounds like you're only talking about guy/guy. Is there a girl/girl gay industry that's also separated from the straight one, and are those actresses "stigmatized" the same way gay male actors are?

It always seemed to me that there is a huge crossover from lesbian into guy/girl. It also seems(to me) that a huge percentage of straight female talent starts as lesbian and quickly goes to other poo poo.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
I'm not sure if it was from one of Darkpriest's old threads, but I read that there is very little "legitimate" lesbian porn on the market because real lesbians are generally not huge consumers of pornography. The vast majority of girl-on-girl porn is geared towards straight men.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
I guess this isn't just a question towards just the OP, but straight guys usually go for either guy/girl or girl/girl porn, I would imagine gay guys go for guy/guy porn...

What are the habits of straight girls and also of lesbian girls? I guess X-Art is an 'attempt' at hitting the female market? Is guy/guy ever thought of as going for the female market in the opposite way girl/girl does for men?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Women, for the most part, don't watch porn. Almost all porn produced is for men regardless of sexual preference.

VirtualStranger
Aug 20, 2012

:lol:
That's not true though? All statistics I've seen state that women make up anywhere between 1/4 to 1/3 of all internet porn traffic.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


teacup posted:

I guess X-Art is an 'attempt' at hitting the female market? Is guy/guy ever thought of as going for the female market in the opposite way girl/girl does for men?

I'd disagree with that but it's rather more "G-Rated Porn" or "Couples-Friendly" so to speak.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

VirtualStranger posted:

That's not true though? All statistics I've seen state that women make up anywhere between 1/4 to 1/3 of all internet porn traffic.

I've looked this up because it didn't sound right. The quotes that you see typically seem to cherry pick some of the numbers. Over a 6 month period, yes, women surveyed said they watched porn. The 6 month number is the one that leads people to the 1/4 to 1/3 number. When you get into actual frequency, though, most women are watching porn less than once a month.

code:
 Frequency of use             Men           Women
 Less than once a month    15.3% (n=281) 51.4% (n=275)
 1–2 times per month       17.1% (n=281) 30.3% (n=275)
 1–2 times per week        28.8% (n=281) 11.4% (n=275)
 3 times per week or more  38.8% (n=281)  6.9% (n=275)
This has a link to a couple of studies and a breakdown in how it came to be. http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5180/are-one-in-three-porn-viewers-female

Yes, women do watch porn from time to time. However, men are far and away the most frequent consumers of pornography. Additionally, the higher number for women is also because it includes "adult matchmaking websites" so that includes things like AFF, craigslist casual encounters, etc that aren't actually pornography.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
You think more women are loving strangers than watching porn?

Not all women watch porn, but women watching porn is definitely a thing. If porn were only consumed by guys, nobody would have a clue who James Deen is. Instead he's the #1 guy in the industry.

knockout
Apr 27, 2014

my reputation's never been worse, so
This is petty. Can't we just acknowledge that people are into stuff because we're all humans driven by the same emotions and impulses? The barriers to creating, disseminating, and consuming digital content have never been lower. Even if women aren't creating or consuming as much porn as men, they could be, and likely will be someday. Let's not pretend that the concept of porn is somehow inherently misogynist.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
I never said that and I don't think that's the case at all. I'm saying that men make up a far more significant amount of the market then women. Women do consume porn, but it is much more infrequent than male consumption.

VirtualStranger
Aug 20, 2012

:lol:
When looking at statistics, you have to keep in mind that women tend to under-report on issues like this due to social stigma.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

VirtualStranger posted:

When considering any statistics, you have to keep in mind that women tend to under-report on issues like this due to social stigma.

The link I posted discussed that and why it wasn't an issue with the particular statistics I linked. Women were actually more open respondents than men on it.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
It doesn't say that women were more open/honest respondents (and you can't know it). It said that 78% of women returned their surveys, then leapt to "therefore they were telling the truth."

Either way, it was Denmark (and only young straight people), so I don't think it's super applicable to the US culture we're talking about. It'd be interesting to see it done here.

luscious
Mar 8, 2005

Who can find a virtuous woman,
For her price is far above rubies.
I have never met a woman who doesn't watch porn (or hasn't watched porn). HOWEVER. I think that women (who often deal with lovely sexual partners and are kinda trained to lie to preserve their partner's ego through faking) are more critical of porn and can see through the dramatization of it. Because of that, I think that most women will watch porn to get off but don't have the same desire to seek it out and use it for fantasies and instead turn to erotica and other kinds of ~mental stimulation~.

Avasculous
Aug 30, 2008

Kazvall posted:

It always seemed to me that there is a huge crossover from lesbian into guy/girl. It also seems(to me) that a huge percentage of straight female talent starts as lesbian and quickly goes to other poo poo.

In fairness, this plasticity is reflected in non-porn sexuality too. Female bisexuals massively outnumber male bisexuals and there's been at least a few studies showing that a surprisingly large percentage of straight women are physically turned on by nude/erotic images of women.

I would guess that a lot of the female performers in the industry simply see girl/girl scenes as something fun, adventurous, and probably less physically stressful than girl/guy scenes rather than the identity-shattering point of no return that men tend to see gay sex as.

Anne Whateley posted:

Not all women watch porn, but women watching porn is definitely a thing. If porn were only consumed by guys, nobody would have a clue who James Deen is. Instead he's the #1 guy in the industry.

Yeah, this is a good point. It seems like he has a lot more recognition and popularity at this point than even most of the female performers. There was a Reddit AMA of him where almost everything he posted was followed by 20-50 replies of women throwing themselves at him.

The amazing thing about his success to me is, outside of his handsome face, how far he is from the stereotypes for naked male attractiveness. You'd expect the #1 male pornstar to be a chiseled, towering Adonis, but instead he's kind of slight/kind of short. I think he's just so convincing at the aggressive manhandling role he usually does that people don't even notice or care that a lot of the women he works with look like they could take him in a fight.

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

Dillbag posted:

I'm not sure if it was from one of Darkpriest's old threads, but I read that there is very little "legitimate" lesbian porn on the market because real lesbians are generally not huge consumers of pornography. The vast majority of girl-on-girl porn is geared towards straight men.

Pretty sure it was from one of his earlier threads. I remember someone commenting that "Crash Pad" is the name of one of the few legitimately lesbian-targeted pornos out there.

VirtualStranger
Aug 20, 2012

:lol:

Lassitude posted:

Pretty sure it was from one of his earlier threads. I remember someone commenting that "Crash Pad" is the name of one of the few legitimately lesbian-targeted pornos out there.

Sweetheart Video, Girlfriends Films, Filly Films, Girl Candy Films, and AbbyWinters.com all produce more female-oriented lesbian content despite being primarily advertised towards men.

JaggyJagJag
Mar 14, 2006
Targaryens are the legitimate dynasts.
August Ames is my new favorite star. That is amazing you are dating her. My all-time favorite is Devon and I notice she is making a comeback as a Milf. Did you ever work with her? What was she like?

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Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

VirtualStranger posted:

Sweetheart Video, Girlfriends Films, Filly Films, Girl Candy Films, and AbbyWinters.com all produce more female-oriented lesbian content despite being primarily advertised towards men.

I'm not familiar with them, but I looked at Crash Pad out of curiosity, and the ladies were fairly hairy (legs/armpits included) so I figured that was legitimate lesbian porn if I've ever seen it.

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