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WickedHate posted:Kirihara is definitely a weird character and I find his "Her sword was impure so I tried to kill her, now I chop off limbs as expressions of love to her" stuff as weird as anyone else. On the other hand, the victim of said limb chopping deserved it, but it's still weird. Erika is from one of the rich elite families, she's just a bastard. Leo has some super hardcore german magic soldier in his ancestry. I don't remember the third one but basically every character has a plausible reason they can benefit under the incredibly lovely and unfair system except Tatsuya, who's just A MENSCH.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 04:07 |
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WickedHate posted:Leo, Erika, and Mizuki aren't rich or elite. Yeah, but it seems that the point is more "these people who aren't elite should be elite" than "it's bad that some people are elite/privileged and others aren't." This is sort of supported by what Harime Nui said about Erika actually being frmo an elite family and Leo also having something in his ancestry. It's bad that the system lets some True Elites fall through the cracks; not that elites exist in the first place.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 04:15 |
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For a serious post tho, the reason why completely invincible protagonists works a lot better in something like Fist of the North Star is because when Kenshiro makes some thugs explode while they're unable to even scratch him, those thugs kinda have it coming because you see them do vile things like setting people on fire or forcing villagers to kill each other while they watch and laugh. There's no question that those thugs would love to tie damsels to railroad tracks if trains were still around in the world of Fist of the North Star, and they'd twirl their mustache around while doing it. And Kenshiro is practically invincible so for most of the show he very rarely is threatened. But heck, it never gets dull because the thugs try so hard and Kenshiro is always so creative in how he takes them out. Plus the thugs at least get to try to do something before they get splattered. Here I just can't cheer for the brutal violence on random mooks because damned if I don't sympathize with their cause. Plus the hand waving to instantly win was dull enough the first time around. (The real fun of writing things about this show, outside of talking about the lovely politics, is relating it to better shows )
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 04:16 |
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I mean under the "rules" of the setting, some bloodlines are better at magic than others, fullstop. No amount of hard work will make you as good as one of the lucky genetic elites. Furthermore, Erika's a case in point that "diluting" this bloodline just makes you go down a tier. So we have a setting where it is literally better to be incestuous (!!) than mingle with the commoners. It's a science-fictional excuse for straight up aristocraticism.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 04:18 |
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The only one who was badly injured was the leader. The mooks just ended up with frostbite for a little bit.Ytlaya posted:Yeah, but it seems that the point is more "these people who aren't elite should be elite" than "it's bad that some people are elite/privileged and others aren't." This is sort of supported by what Harime Nui said about Erika actually being frmo an elite family and Leo also having something in his ancestry. It's bad that the system lets some True Elites fall through the cracks; not that elites exist in the first place. It's a criticism of the system not fairly evaluating people, just like it does in real life.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 04:19 |
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WickedHate posted:The only one who was badly injured was the leader. The mooks just ended up with frostbite for a little bit. It's evaluating people at something they have no choice in participating in. This is why when Miyuki(?) makes her speech to Kendo-girl it rings completely hollow. It actually doesn't matter what else that girl is good at or what her real talent is, she's going to grow up to be one of the poo poo-tier rank and file magic users that Tatsuya mentions when he talks about why Blanche is so wrong. The show tries to dishonestly frame the issue as people being mean to the Weeds, who are actually being disenfranchised and regulated to second class for life, not just in high school. E: Also saying the mooks got off with "frostbite" is ignoring the fact that Miyuki came within an inch of killing them, and only didn't (IIRC, lol at watching that poo poo twice) because Tatsuya stopped her. Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Erika is the heir of a major clan, though she only gained that status recently what with being a bastard. She isn't the oldest child, but she is the only one who managed to master some of her clan's secret moves. I could be wrong on some of those details. Mizuki is all set up to marry into Mikihiko's major clan, since her only value is as an object. She also did not engage the terrorists in any way! I'm pretty sure Mizuki is the only named character in class 2 who isn't somehow a skilled combatant, actually. Leo is on a fast track to the military, and given that this is right-wing bizarro world that is a prestigious job. I think he was from a long line of military men?
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 04:30 |
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WickedHate posted:It's a criticism of the system not fairly evaluating people, just like it does in real life. Yeah, but there are two issues here: 1. In this show, it is pretty explicitly shown that talent is directly passed down through elite bloodlines. 2. Even if it wasn't, there are real arguments to be made that meritocracies are not a good thing* (this is a much more serious issue that goes beyond just the scope of this show). *Not in the sense that it's better for people to be unfairly evaluated, but in the sense that they don't solve the more important underlying issues of poverty and inequality; meritocratic systems just shuffle people around
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 04:42 |
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Erika belongs to pretty much the second richest clan of magicians in Japan. Or they might be the absolute richest. Why? Because they literally provide basic and advanced combat training to all police and military forces in Japan and it is implied they also do a lot of it for allies/friends/clients of Japan. They're actually comparatively weak magician wise, but when you have some loyalty from just about every cop and soldier in Japan, well, you're going to have clout. Especially in glorious re-militarised Nippon.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 09:37 |
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Daily dose, but not a lot this time. You probably shouldn't read my posts anymore if you care about spoilers Tatsuya invents this Which is just as dumb as it looks. The length of air isn't variable and when it's extended Leo has to swing harder. Also it's not a real sword. Mari gets injured at the magic olympics quote:Tatsuya had received military and guardian training since youth, which more than qualified him for minor surgical operations. They investigate the cause of the argument. Tatsuya has a theory quote:Miyuki would never question Tatsuya's judgment. She was only assuming her brother's hypothesis was true and asking for the next step in the puzzle. Then it's the afterword by the author quote:Perhaps some of the readers may have already realised but the story line visualised this time is really similar to a certain popular world-class novel's fourth entry. quote:In the next volume "Nine Schools Competition (II)", the main protagonist will finally distinguish himself in the competition. And not just in the arena, the protagonist will also have the opportunity to fully showcase his dark hero's abilities wantonly in the outside world. quote:M-sama, thank you giving me so many precise suggestions, especially [When on a trip, of course you need to go to an onsen]. Without this suggestion, the colored illustration as well as the normal novel illustration will not be able to depict such a wonderful scene. Book 4 starts with a rundown of all the magic Miyuki and Tatsuya can use. Miyuki quote:Hell of Fire and Water (Inferno) A magic which reverses the heat energy within a set area. Areas of bitter cold and scorching heat occur concurrently in adjacent regions. Tatsuya quote:
Book 4 so far is mostly the year 1 girls winning events due to Tatsuya's superior strategies, ultimate engineering and perfect magic coding. Funny bits so far though: quote:If Tatsuya himself had been faced with Mayumi's remark 'his fans are increasing', he would have vehemently denied it. Tatsuya goes to his room alone. Miyuki is sat on her bed cause she's nervous about her event and wants to chat to him for a while. She is upset that Tatsuya didn't patent the brand new magic he totes invented for the competition because their aunt would be pissed if he did. quote:Those words weren't so much to convince his sister, as for himself. quote:Her other name was Emilia Goldie. Her full name was Akechi Emilia Goldie Eimi. Eimi was a quarter British stock. Her nickname "Emmy", rather than originating from her Japanese name "Eimi", probably came from her British name "Emilia". Going with the Sword Art Online comparison someone made earlier, this is so much worse. Tatsuya is overpowered to the point where fights are boring. It's essentially akin to the complaint people make about DBZ where arcs are spent waiting for Goku to show up. In addition I remember in SAO there being conversations where Kirito wasn't mentioned, but I'm serious when I say that I don't remember a single conversation in this that hasn't been with Tatsuya or about him. The stuff with Suguha, whilst distateful, is at least mollified by a few things: her actually being his cousin not his sister, Kirito being completely unaware until it's revealed as opposed to Tatsuya who seems to suspect something is off but doesn't care, and finally SAO resolves it as a crush that ultimately goes nowhere and is properly rejected. Tatsuya and Miyuki are both boring protagonists with bland personalities. Tatsuya is kind of the author throwing in anything he thinks is cool into a pot, and anything that we're told is a weakness about him actually isn't -He has no emotions, except sometimes he gets melancholy about his situation (which is an emotion) and he also uses sarcasm to both escape conversations he doesn't want to deal with (usually due to an emotion) or because he thinks it's funny (amusement being an emotion). So in other words he has no emotions except those required to make him a cool, tortured anti-hero. -Tatsuya can't take a compliment. This would be a legitimate flaw if it weren't for the fact that he's basically an ubermench who is constantly being praised. His humbleness actually comes across as arrogance. Miyuki of course, only has two character traits: "beautiful" and "onii-sama is my god" Tomorrow I can look forward to Miyuki competing in the ~Fairy Dance~ E: Tatsuya looks smug as heck about his invention though
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 19:43 |
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Namtab, you make this thread that much better with your well thought out words of wisdom and analysis of this terrifically bad piece of work (I don't think it actually qualifies as any type of literature). Between your analysis and Wickedhate's terrible opinions, I constantly check back to see what new hilarity has recently developed. Also, no this really doesn't get any better, it's just a continuous roll downhill on this mountain of poo poo. Between this and Gate, I think we're pretty much covered on right wing nationalist works.
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# ? Jun 4, 2014 20:08 |
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This show is just not fun. Hellsing is fun and a great example of a power trip. There are actual stakes and when humanity is about to be totally hosed, Alucard crashes down on a high speed jet and brutally murders all of the aggressors. He does this by letting them have the first shot. Jiraishin has a pretty much invincible protagonist, but everyone calls him out on his poo poo and the people he fights are fairly unsympathetic (and the ones that are sympathetic highlight how nuts he is). It also fits the show's setting; it's a bleak, dreary world where humanity is awful. Fullmetal Alchemist has tons of science and explanations, but it works because the world is consistent and the audience can basically fill in the blanks. Ed is shown to be a prodigy, but ultimately fallible. He is also immature, childish and easily angered. Additionally, he is obsessive, first with resurrecting his mother, and later with helping his brother. This show can't manage tone, can't present credible (and unsympathetic) villains, doesn't have any stakes and it can't even do a power trip correctly. Again, this show manages to make me sympathize with terrorists who shoot up schools. How can you gently caress up this badly!? By presenting the "terrorists" as desperate people who do not have the power to face the heroes head-on. They do not commit enough crimes to be unsympathetic and the amount of force they use does not even begin to match the other side's power. Meanwhile, the heroes wantonly neutralize them without any compunction or care. Seriously, in any proper anime, Tatsuya's band of warehouse raiders would be the team of villains. You got Tatsuya as the leader and Sephiroth stand-in, you got the obsessive crazy chick with ice powers, the insane psychopath with a sword, and the gentle giant who is the only decent person of the bunch. Our heroes are basically Wild ARMs villains.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 06:22 |
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Wow, people are still arguing with WickedHate as to why this show is bad? I'll put this simply; strip out the creepy incest from NGNL and you have some cool-rear end games and the main characters testing their limits to win these games in creative and awesome ways. There's also a good bit of comedy and clever game/japanese pop culture references which is just gravy for the show. Strip the creepy incest from Mahouka and you have an invincible MC, Chinese who are evil because they are Chinese, Japanese terrorists being manipulated by the 'evil Chinese', and a supporting cast whose primary purpose is to have expressions whenever the MC does something 'amazing' or 'impossible'. Also, technobabble to try and justify why the supporting characters are so mystified by absolutely everything Tatsuya does. OP characters are only good in a few series. Hellsing being one, because Alucard has character flaws and a personality, as opposed to being an operating table autist. Jojo is another, despite also sharing the issue with supporting characters having to narrate everything we see happening on the loving screen.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 07:55 |
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HiveCommander posted:I'll put this simply; strip out the creepy incest from NGNL and you have some cool-rear end games and the main characters testing their limits to win these games in creative and awesome ways. There's also a good bit of comedy and clever game/japanese pop culture references which is just gravy for the show. SSNeoman posted:This show is just not fun. I actually watched the Hellsing OVA just recently(easily one of my top five anime)and yeah, I agree. It did that a lot better and Mahouka failed by making it's villains complete pushovers. I'm hoping that kid in the blood covered room will be a better one. WickedHate fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Jun 5, 2014 |
# ? Jun 5, 2014 08:49 |
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Ha ha, no. Basically, he is a military mage thoroughbred prodigy that lots of people have high expectations of. But in a shocking twist, Tatsuya is better than he is in every way on top of actually being an experienced soldier. His buddy is famous for discovering some fundamental building block of magic. Unfortunately, Tatsuya's bullshit special vision can see that building block and all of the others besides. He just never published it, despite the fact that he already has an anonymous pseudonym for that sort of thing. In a shocking twist, they only exist in order to make Tatsuya look better during this arc. To absolutely no one's surprise, Tatsuya of course ends up competing in the games. I refuse to use spoiler tags for this garbage.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 09:10 |
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But does he become one of Tatsuya's clique of hanger-ons??? He looked like a straightforward "first enemy who's kinda dece, quickly becomes hero's sidekick" to me.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 09:15 |
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Harime Nui posted:But does he become one of Tatsuya's clique of hanger-ons??? He looked like a straightforward "first enemy who's kinda dece, quickly becomes hero's sidekick" to me. He is from a different school, so no. I forget what he happens to him when the chinese invade.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 09:28 |
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I wonder how many episodes it'll take before we see Tatsuya actually struggling in a fight. It'll happen in this arc, but with such pacing (which strangely doesn't bother me) it whould take at least 5-6 episodes to get there. Light Novel-wise I enjoyed the fact that one of the secondary characters who attends the same school (being outside of Shiba's friends clique) and isn't that famous - turned out to be a powerhouse who, IMO, has a good chance to beat Miyuki in a fight to death. The guy managed to press Tatsuya himself in close combat for a decent amount of time.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 09:36 |
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He didn't, though. Tatsuya was only using martial arts and his magic dispel. He was a good match for Tatsuya's facade, which is merely human. Basically, the idea was that first year students have a lot to learn and need to respect upperclassmen. Of course, none of the current first year students have jack poo poo to learn from upperclassmen. But then, that entire book was essentially glorifying the sempai/kouhai thing. It was kind of a weird focus, even for this series. I guess Leo could have learned from someone older, but instead he ended up becoming Erika's student.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 09:56 |
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It's disappointing there won't be higher stakes, but I watch it for different reasons anyway.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 11:23 |
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OK, from a few pages back:quote:On the Internet, Tatsuya had read that some young women have been afflicted with a malady that causes them to see all interactions between different genders as romantic interactions. Truth be told, Tatsuya had several people around him suffering from the same illness, so he really didn't want to broach that subject. What? What? (Though I must shamefully admit that I read "malady" as "m'lady") I don't really understand how this is the biggest hit of the season. I've mostly seen hate for it when I've checked here, /a/ and reddit. Am I checking the wrong sites? Or... the right sites? Even if someone is watching it for the incest, I don't see how a relationship between a clingy girl and a disinterested guy is very interesting. Whether or not they're related makes no difference.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 15:27 |
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This is to guys as Twilight is to girls. That's all you need to understand to know why this thing is so popular. Of course, people who actually praise this piece of garbage instead of seeing it as the terrible waste it is gets nothing but contempt from me, just like people who praise Twilight.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 15:42 |
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jwang posted:This is to guys as Twilight is to girls. That's all you need to understand to know why this thing is so popular. Of course, people who actually praise this piece of garbage instead of seeing it as the terrible waste it is gets nothing but contempt from me, just like people who praise Twilight. But apparently this is also #2 among girls in Japan (I think #1 was Haikyuu, which is a pretty strange pair to be at the top of the ratings). It's pretty bizarre. Part of it might also be that the more right-wing/nationalist elements appeal to nerds over there. Aren't Japanese otaku at least somewhat right-leaning?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 17:29 |
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Don't take that internet poll as evidence of anything.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 17:44 |
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jwang posted:This is to guys as Twilight is to girls. I think you've really hit the nail on the head here. Just like Bella is sort of a bland ordinary girl for the audience to project into, that's Tatsuya: he has no personality to speak of except being spergy and snarky and the ultimate geek power-fantasy avatar. Likewise just like the actual focus in Twilight is on the hot guys constantly fighting over the audience avatar, the focus in this is on the women constantly surrounding Tatsuya. Just like that whole thing with the Italian Vampires (?) in Twilight turns out to be a big non-starter the "action" and "plot" this show allegedly centers around is really just a thin attachment to the romantic/wish-fulfillment fantasy itself, which is the show's real selling point. Of course the dynamic is somewhat changed up; from what I understand Bella largely spends Twilight being carried around like a baby by one strong man or another, whereas Tatsuya is more like an omniscient protector to his harem of ingenues.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 18:26 |
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jwang posted:Namtab, you make this thread that much better with your well thought out words of wisdom and analysis of this terrifically bad piece of work I'm just quoting things I find funny when I read this on the bus is all. This ain't analysis. Serious Frolicking posted:I refuse to use spoiler tags for this garbage. You know what, I'm gonna join you. You want to maintain spoiler awareness you skip my posts. Daily dose. Still book 4. So far all the year one girls have been winning because Tatsuya's basically setting the girls up with spells they can use to win events, plus his strategising and knowledge of what the girls are able to do magically allows him to dominate proceedings. This has been interspersed with shocked expository reactions from the student council which are basically "tatsuya has done blah blah blah....unprecedented. Unbelievable". We're in the Icicle smashing round now, which because it's the womens event it means that it is also a fashion show. Miyuki's friend went to her round dressed in a full kimono because the author wanted a character in a kimono. Now it's miyuki's turn quote:Miyuki's appearance on the platform threw the crowd into pandemonium. quote:Miyuki was wholly unaware of the drama unfolding on the back stage — well, that was only to be expected — as she calmly waited for the start signal. This is all unironic. So then they get down to the competition, and Miyuki crushes her opponent. It's not close, it's not at all a contest. Miyuki just freezes her area and melts the opposition's icicles and the opposition is powerless to do a drat thing about it. This is about as compelling as it sounds, because how better to write a sporting contest than to have it entirely one sided in favour of your mary sue. Seriously, her icicles aren't even scratched. Incidentally quote:Occasionally, this magic served as the test for A-Rank Magicians. Many testers shed bitter tears at their inability to wield this highly difficult magic, but for Miyuki, this was merely a triviality that she could manipulate at will. So then it's dinner time quote:Tonight, at the First High tables, a clear line was drawn between light and darkness. By the way, the guys are really pissed off about the girls doing well because of a mere course 2 and the dinner scene ends with one of them storming out because every girl is swarming Our Overlord. Meanwhile, and if you care about the villain's motivation being a suprise you should not read this bit , the villains are all meeting up. quote:Coincidentally at the same time. Back to the magic olympics, and: quote:Based on the Official Division from previous years, the average spectator usually observed the Women's events, while the military, police, firefighters, and university related personnel paid closer attention to the Men's competition. On their way to the third match of icicle break, Miyuki and Tatsuya are met by two members of third high. quote:"Miyuki, go ahead and prepare." They basically just acknowledge tatsuya as a serious threat, state that one day they'd like to challenge people he's responsible for, then walk away. Tatsuya catches up with miyuki and is all "what did they want" quote:"No, well...... I'm not a contestant, right? I don't believe these two renowned individuals who have extended their reputations beyond the scope of magic high school students would view a nameless person like myself a rival." Then miyuki competes some more quote:This was the third time Miyuki used her mysterious beauty to captivate the hearts of the audience at the same time that she wielded her terrible might to vanquish the enemy. and that's all we get. More girls win because of Tatsuya. The three finalists for icicle smashing are all from first high, and they'd just take joint first if it weren't for the fact that Miyuki's friend wants to challenge Miyuki. Tatsuya preps them both. quote:Shizuku stuck her left wrist with the CAD attached into her right sleeve. More magic sports happen, then we get told a little about the two who stopped tatsuya earlier: quote:Ichijou Masaki — Three years ago, when the Great Asian Alliance invaded Okinawa, the New Soviet Union also took military action on Sado, where the young man of a mere 13 years volunteered for the front lines and, alongside the current head of the Ichijou Family, Ichijou Tsuyoshi, used "Rupture" to annihilate many enemy soldiers. He was a Magician who possessed live combat experience. quote:Kichijouji Shinkurou — A genius Magician that identified the "Cardinal Code", which had only existed in theory, at age 13. Based on his surname Kichijouji and the "Cardinal Code" he discovered, he was given the title "Cardinal George" and was held to be one of the rising stars behind theoretical Magic Sequences who were known throughout the field. Tatsuya sleeps through the first year's men only event. Turns out that more sabotage took place and the first high team got crushed. First high need a replacement, a man who can make the impossible possible. So yeah Tatsuya is now totes in the magic olympics now, along with his good buddy Leo (because that dumbass sword thing needs to be useful because Tatsuya is prescient) and Erika's childhood friend who is really loving bland. The first year girls are all worried because of the attempted murder and watching Tatsuya work for emotional support quote:Completely besieged by these silent gazes, this was an irritating condition to work under, but it's not like he could shoo them away either. The women only event takes place and Azusa figures out that Tatsuya is probably Silver because of that smug as heck comment he made in the last book quote:"A-chan, what's wrong......?" Not a lot else happened in the stuff I read. Tatsuya and co prepare for the battle by having Tatsuya redo all their magic code for the event. Erika's childhood friend uses natural bloodline inherant magic, which Tatsuya has seen and therefore can make it better in every way shape and form because Tatsuya can improve on nature. He gets to work on that with Azusa watching him quote:Presently, Tatsuya was calibrating Mikihiko's CAD at lightning speed. Next to him, Azusa was staring at him in shock. As the user, Mikihiko was also present as he stared wide eyed at Tatsuya's unique calibration method and typing speed. Yet, the subject that astounded Azusa was not so superficial. Then they fight Eighth High in the woods. Usually this would be to Eighth's advantage because they train outdoors, but Tatsuya is a ninja. Eighth are crushed. And that's as far as I got. Book 4 so far is really just the blandest thing. Magical sports without any fear of losing. Our Mary Sue and Gary Stu not only win everything they're involved with, the opponents are absolutely crushed without resistance. Tomorrow: I imagine Tatsuya will win monolith code, find and murder the evil gangsters, and First High will win the magic olympics. Tatsuya will be humble throughout.
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quote:(to this day, the New Soviet Union denies their connection with the militants that invaded Sado) I cannot wait. Seems the author doesn't think much of women, or at least modern day fashion. There seems to be a constant theme of "if you dress provocatively you are a slut (or at the very least, weird)"
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 20:12 |
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I figure it is half a reactionary response to the way women dress now compared to the 'good old days', and half because Satou just thinks form-fitting clothing with no skin showing is hot.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 21:09 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:I figure it is half a reactionary response to the way women dress now compared to the 'good old days', and half because Satou just thinks form-fitting clothing with no skin showing is hot. not really cause every named girl except our pure goddess has, at some point, worn clothes that show off their legs because satou has a leg fetish
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 21:12 |
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Namtab posted:Tomorrow: I imagine Tatsuya will win monolith code, find and murder the evil gangsters, and First High will win the magic olympics. Tatsuya will be humble throughout. Sindai fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jun 5, 2014 |
# ? Jun 5, 2014 21:36 |
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Ytlaya posted:But apparently this is also #2 among girls in Japan (I think #1 was Haikyuu, which is a pretty strange pair to be at the top of the ratings). It's pretty bizarre. Simple; Tatsuya is almost every shoujo lead male ever. No character flaws, extremely competent in everything he does, is a genius inventor who achieves the impossible, and best of all he doesn't feel those negative emotions like anger or frustration at all That's one thing that pisses me off with anything shoujo; Japanese females are encouraged to idolise males who are utterly flawless (which don't exist), at least my lovely shounen/seinen romcoms give the girls character flaws. Every shoujo male MC is the same person with a different look.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 03:25 |
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That's not really confined to shoujo. Girl's media in the west tends to have overly perfect male characters too.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 03:30 |
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WickedHate posted:That's not really confined to shoujo. Girl's media in the west tends to have overly perfect male characters too. True, but at least poo poo like Twilight has obvious character flaws, usually with characters being at least mildly psychotic.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 04:06 |
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That's not intentional, though. "Character flaws" in Twilight are like when Stephanie Meyer says Bella is clumsy and then she is never clumsy.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 04:20 |
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I agree, thanks to other terrible things existing in the world this terrible show is absolved of all missteps and poor writing and nationalism and incest and weird fetishes intermingled with misogyny...
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 04:52 |
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HiveCommander posted:Simple; Tatsuya is almost every shoujo lead male ever. No character flaws, extremely competent in everything he does, is a genius inventor who achieves the impossible, and best of all he doesn't feel those negative emotions like anger or frustration at all Tatsuya is an amoral, arrogant bastard, but he still isn't nearly enough of an rear end in a top hat to be a shoujo love interest. He is a male wish-fulfillment character. Different styles of fictional human garbage, I guess. Plus, Tatsuya doesn't resemble an 8 foot tall walking stick. Also, not all shoujo love interests are the same person with a different look. Most of them do in fact have the exact same look, but vary in rapiness by author.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 04:53 |
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Tatsuya isn't really amoral, they just have emotional problems.
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 04:59 |
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I haven't read this yet or seen the anime, but from reading the thread is my assessment of this as Ctrl-Alt-Del: The Anime/light novel correct?
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# ? Jun 6, 2014 05:34 |
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Not really. Other than the verbal diarrhea, the two are very different and awful in their own seperate ways.
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NowonSA posted:I haven't read this yet or seen the anime, but from reading the thread is my assessment of this as Ctrl-Alt-Del: The Anime/light novel correct? If Ethan was a Japanese super genius capable of discovering human flight (among other things) and Lilah is his super-jealous magical time bomb sister, fighting against the 'evil Chinese' and their brainwashed Japanese henchmen then they'd look kinda similar if you squint a little. It's understandable that Japan use China as the enemy in manga/ln/anime in the same way America uses Russia for the same purpose, but Japan were the aggressors in WWII when it came to anything involving the Chinese so it's kinda funny that the Chinese are the evil ones.
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