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 An interesting headline.  An even more interesting headline Anidav fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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Jun 6, 2014 05:20
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Jun 6, 2014 05:27
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Jun 6, 2014 05:29
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If Scott Morrison ever became prime minister I would stand outside the glass windows of the Sunrise set and commit seppuku on live television
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Jun 6, 2014 05:30
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Anidav posted:
What are the numbers for Someone Else?
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Jun 6, 2014 05:34
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Shadeoses posted:What are the numbers for Someone Else?  3.00
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Jun 6, 2014 05:35
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Apple retail staff in Australia to get < CPI pay increases over the next few years (at 2%), including technical staff. http://www.afr.com/p/technology/what_an_apple_genius_worth_XylpfNr9PhwS50YQOkChmN What grubs. Sitting on top of a cash pile in excess of what some countries make in a year, can't pay their staff a decent wage. Disgusting. This is what happens when you don't have a union negotiating for you collectively.
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Jun 6, 2014 05:40
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Mattjpwns posted:Apple retail staff in Australia to get < CPI pay increases over the next few years (at 2%), including technical staff. Wow, 1700 out of 2300 employees agreed to it?
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Jun 6, 2014 05:46
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Transfield, literally employing child molesters.quote:Evidence that a child asylum seeker detained on Nauru was sexually assaulted by a member of the detention centre staff has raised further questions about the safety of children held in Australia’s offshore detention regime. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/06/evidence-nauru-cleaner-sexually-assaulted-asylum-seeker-boy
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Jun 6, 2014 05:47
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Those On My Left posted:Wow, 1700 out of 2300 employees agreed to it? It's amazing what you'll agree to when you think it's a privilege to work for your Lord and Messiah.
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Mattjpwns posted:Apple retail staff in Australia to get < CPI pay increases over the next few years (at 2%), including technical staff. A Shitlord posted:Australian Retailers Association executive director Russell Zimmerman said the pay deal only just exceeded the minimum award standards, which was surprising, but set a new and welcome benchmark. jfc
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Haters Objector posted:If Scott Morrison ever became prime minister I would stand outside the glass windows of the Sunrise set and commit seppuku on live television You should [redacted because of Xylo rules] instead.
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Jun 6, 2014 05:55
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Mattjpwns posted:Apple retail staff in Australia to get < CPI pay increases over the next few years (at 2%), including technical staff. quote:He also noted that the agreement traded away an entitlement under the award for double time on Sundays in favour of time and a half. I'm wondering if the employees even knew what they were voting for...
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Jun 6, 2014 06:04
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Haters Objector posted:If Scott Morrison ever became prime minister I would stand outside the glass windows of the Sunrise set and commit seppuku on live television A reminder that at the time the idea of Health Minister and serial fuckup Anthony John Abbott ever becoming the Prime Minister was utterly absurd and would simply reflect how far Australian politics had fallen
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Jun 6, 2014 06:05
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Waaaah the Christians are out to get me
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SynthOrange posted:Transfield, literally employing child molesters. Burn us down.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:11
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So 1916 people decided to collectively bargain, and no one was represented by a union? Then they bargain down basic penalties because the store discount would make up the difference? Then it gets ratified by the Fair Work Commission. As long as you are a bit over the minimum wage you can gently caress about with penalties; How is this legal? They don't like that the industry has higher awards then the minimum, so they incrementally dilute new agreements until its at minimum? Its hosed up that the workers don't seem to mind.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:14
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Previously working at a shithole like Umart, the dominant attitude seemed to be " A job's a job mate"
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Jun 6, 2014 06:15
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Well sure it sounds like the workers have been hosed over, but that's because you're a communist who doesn't understand that we are all Homo Economicus. Educate yourself
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Jun 6, 2014 06:19
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Next Up: Supermarket staff vote to add a condition where they can take home day old pastries and poo poo that expires the next day (in lieu of meal allowances and weekend penalties).
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Jun 6, 2014 06:25
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http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5625-preferred-leader-l-np-alp-june-2014-201406060420 lol
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Jun 6, 2014 06:25
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I used to work at an unnamed bakery in Australia and they refused to pay for the time we had to stay after work to clean up beyond 15 minutes, when it ALWAYS took at least a half hour. I would make up for it by helping myself to tasty deserts because the owners were too lazy to stay until we were done cleaning.
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Ragingsheep posted:I'm wondering if the employees even knew what they were voting for... Nah, they probably didn't. When I worked for a supermarket sometimes they'd put proposals through to us, explain a little and we would have to agree yes or no to them. I can't remember what any of them were about, except for one which was where if you were working 6 hours, you could take your mandatory 30 minute break at the end of your shift so you'd be working 5.5 hours straight or something.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:29
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Working for Apple is a privilege you should pay for.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:35
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Mattjpwns posted:Apple retail staff in Australia to get < CPI pay increases over the next few years (at 2%), including technical staff. Didn't you hear that Apple Australia makes barely any profits? That's what they tell the ATO.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:37
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adamantium|wang posted:Yes but they won't be able to tell you why. They wouldn't be able to tell you, but the reasons are pretty clear. If you don't follow politics it's easy to have a simple good guy/ bad guy narrative about the major parties. And it's not a good thing when somebody is betraying the team you've chosen to blindly support is it.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:56
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Adult government.
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In medieval times the apprentice would work for their master in the trade, and also pay them.
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Mattjpwns posted:Apple retail staff in Australia to get < CPI pay increases over the next few years (at 2%), including technical staff. You mean you get a deal greater than the award? Apple's lowest paid workers starting from a base that exceeds the award by 6.5%. The agreed 2% pa pay rises is 1% lower than the minimum wage case of 3%. So for the entire 4 year length of the agreement they remain ahead of the award assuming it increases at the same rate as the minimum wage case. Also the example discussed was the workers on the lowest paid jobs. The $750 per week quoted amounts to $20.55 x 36.5. But there is no mention of what happens with salaries for other staff affected who include: "salespeople as well as those stacking shelves, doing repairs and providing technical assistance." It also does not mention the commissions that sales guys get. Meanwhile the union guy threw in a spurious comparison with Coles: "By comparison, the bottom rung for retail workers at Coles was $773.70 a week and the basic award minimum for shop assistants was $703.90" - This is problematic for several reasons - it does not say whether the Coles' working week is the same length as Apple's, and it does not say who the $773.50 gets paid to - so you could end up comparing the in-store sales assistant with shelf stackers and it doesn't say pay rises Coles staff will get. Assuming 36.5 hours per week the number comes out to be $21.20 per hour. Here: http://www.glassdoor.com.au/Salary/Woolworths-Limited-Salaries-E7481.htm are rates from Woolworths as low as $16.09 per hour. You wouldn't think that they would have such differences between their pay rates. More data would be able to provide a more accurate assessment.
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Ragingsheep posted:I'm wondering if the employees even knew what they were voting for... What do you think? Financial Review posted:The deal was struck with employees without the involvement of a union and was signed on behalf of employees by a senior human resources executive at the company. The deal was signed by an Apple exec "on behalf" of the employees.
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Navy vessels to be built offshore, with Australian shipbuilders not able to bid posted:New navy refuelling ships will be built offshore, with the Abbott government giving first preference to Spain and South Korea. Open for International Business.
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Hypation posted:You mean you get a deal greater than the award? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc. quote:Revenue US$ 170.910 billion (2013)[2]
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Anidav posted:Open for International Business. Good luck getting them into the country.
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The idea that workers in a company that has over $100 billion of equity are doing okay if they get below CPI increases and barely 6.5% above the minimum wage is loving idiotic, and by defending it you're basically saying you're perfectly okay with the rich getting fantastically richer at a fantastically faster rate while the poor should thank their lucky loving stars they aren't being paid the minimum wage.
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Those On My Left posted:The idea that workers in a company that has over $100 billion of equity are doing okay if they get below CPI increases and barely 6.5% above the minimum wage is loving idiotic, and by defending it you're basically saying you're perfectly okay with the rich getting fantastically richer at a fantastically faster rate while the poor should thank their lucky loving stars they aren't being paid the minimum wage. AAPL have paid out ~$12 billion in dividends in the last 12 months. Maybe if the workers weren't so drat greedy, it could have been $15 billion.
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Those On My Left posted:The idea that workers in a company that has over $100 billion of equity are doing okay if they get below CPI increases and barely 6.5% above the minimum wage is loving idiotic, and by defending it you're basically saying you're perfectly okay with the rich getting fantastically richer at a fantastically faster rate while the poor should thank their lucky loving stars they aren't being paid the minimum wage. Blah blah know it's not fair blah blah negotiate individually blah blah risk of capital blah blah they should start their own global technology company
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Hypation posted:More data would be able to provide a more accurate assessment. You don't think it's crazy that staff working for a highly profitable company would agree to conditions that will see them worse off in real dollars as well as trading away penalty rates?
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Listen thread, I need your help with something. WRT to indigenous life expectancy, who gets counted for this? Just anybody who ticks the box in the census? I'd like to know about what the life expectancy is for culturally First Nations people, not just Whitey McLiberal who claims ancestry but has never been a part of community.
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