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SynthOrange posted:Australia's dumb as gently caress. ftfy
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I can not wrap my head around the anti-multicultural thing in Australia. Nobody would go back to the cracker monoculture of the 1930s willingly. All of the things that people with names like Strzelecki have done to be part of our history and way of life make xenophobia ridiculous. This is especially true when you remember that almost all of us are, ultimately, not from the place we inhabit (non-indigenous). As a thought experiment imagine that we let every single foreigner, who wanted to, settle here. For some extra spice pretend they are all Muslims. In fifty years Australia would be different. Certainly, but an Australia that wasn't different in fifty years is anathema in any case. We might become a truly enlightened and tolerant country where at last the divide between all the people of the book and beyond is healed. If our country is going to poo poo it doesn't seem to be the latest round of immigrants doing the making GBS threads. It seems more like it's the established overpriviledged FYGM cadre doing the damage. On a different note: Has anyone else noticed that we are taking on the rhetoric that exists in countries that did suffer the GFC? All of this austerity claptrap and debt & deficit terror. Hello! We dodged that bullet and don't have to wallow about in the gutter in rags to atone for our bankers bad behavior. The font of much of this bile is the US Tea Party and they are just about out of the game now. We are absorbing the irrelevant and now discredited rhetoric of the knee jerk right from another country. We are the American
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Every race that isn't white has been the doom of Australia at various points throughout history. Today it's just no Muslims; the Greeks, Italians, Asians and whoever else were the problem decades ago are fine now. The real danger is the "why" of dodging the GFC. The economic protections we have in place played a large party of that. Ask the average person though and it's "cause Howard left us cash in the bank". If people were more aware of why we dodge the fallout of the GFC, there'd be even less support for measures seeking to roll them back.
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Jun 7, 2014 08:01
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Cartoon posted:The font of much of this bile is the US Tea Party and they are just about out of the game now. In fairness, the US Tea Party was always an astroturf movement removed only a few degrees from the actual Republican Party. The main difference was that the Tea Party was less practiced at filtering its hateful bile and more inclined to act on it, as opposed to the Republicans who are content to be code-word racists most days. But, yes, mercifully the movement is dying and some hints of a true leftism--or at least left compared to the current Overton Window--are appearing here and there in the news. The Old Man isn't nearly over his illness yet, mind, and it still promises to be a long battle, but signs of life are being shown. I just thank loving Christ that we don't have your shitshow government. Our government is still an atrocious shitshow but at least it does more nothing than active destruction (if not for lack of trying).
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Jun 7, 2014 08:14
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Nibbles141 posted:The real danger is the "why" of dodging the GFC. The economic protections we have in place played a large party of that. Ask the average person though and it's "cause Howard left us cash in the bank". I'm glad you mentioned the GFC because a friend of mine posted this on Facebook today: Facebook posted:THE $100 BILL My wife wouldn't allow me to comment on it since I get "too fired up" (and to be fair, this friend is usually a pretty nice bloke, just a bit economically silly) but it's been hours and not one single like or affirming comment  ETA: Originally posted by Paul Zanetti - Cartoonist. Mmm, good person to take economic advice from.
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Jun 7, 2014 08:40
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In other Queensland news, VICE just put out a short report on bikies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7r_Sq_T-A8
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Jun 7, 2014 08:42
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Didn't know we had $100 "bills" in Australia
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Jun 7, 2014 08:48
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I thought that was a very nice story actually, till right at the end when they decided this was a bad thing somehow??
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Jun 7, 2014 08:53
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MysticalMachineGun posted:I'm glad you mentioned the GFC because a friend of mine posted this on Facebook today: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3123736/posts
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Jun 7, 2014 08:59
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Nice. Maybe I can simply reply with that link.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:06
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Well they are out of debt, they just could have been sooner if they'd realised the circular nature of it before. Assuming their debts were attracting interest too then they are better off for having serviced them, and the government got its money back in the end. If you're more cynical I suppose you could say that it's a victory in that the town gets to roll on for one more day before collapsing in on itself.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:29
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Nice. Maybe I can simply reply with that link. quote:The solution to the paradox is that, when credit claims run in a circle, the residents of the town don’t need an external party to provide $100 in order to settle. They could simply get together and net out all of their credit positions. Because everyone has an equal asset and liability, everyone could net their position to zero. The introduction of the $100 bill by the rich tourist does nothing that the townspeople could not do by themselves. Suppose you and a friend owed each other $100. You could agree to cancel your obligations to each other without any cash changing hands.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:30
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Haters Objector posted:Didn't know we had $100 "bills" in Australia Hey lads check out this poor here, am I right? Safran's article was amazing
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Jun 7, 2014 09:33
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Cartoon posted:why the pointless racism Nothing else to argue about, apparently. We've given up on every institution we have, sullenly conforming because the odds are stacked against us, we've even given up looking for who we are outside of stupid jingles and flags. Why not mercilessly ostracize someone 'different'. It passes the time and in 30 years it can be someone else's turn. Seems to be a similar dynamic in the UK, perhaps we are culturally programmed to think in terms of invasions. quote:On a different note: Has anyone else noticed that we are taking on the rhetoric that exists in countries that did suffer the GFC? All of this austerity claptrap and debt & deficit terror. Hello! We dodged that bullet and don't have to wallow about in the gutter in rags to atone for our bankers bad behavior. Let's go full  and suggest that the Shock Doctrine idea really appeals to corporate interests who didn't want to miss out on all the fun Europe has been having. The financial sector certainly wants to lock in the goodies with this govt, the big four banks already having secured specific rights that were granted as emergency measures back in the GFC which they simply didn't need. They now have much simpler mechanisms to swallow up smaller competitors in case *whoops* there's a downturn.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:36
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Bifauxnen posted:I thought that was a very nice story actually, till right at the end when they decided this was a bad thing somehow?? Yeah, I thought the same. I mean, for "No one produced anything and no one earned anything!" a fair amount of people got out of debt.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:46
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Zenithe posted:Yeah, I thought the same. I mean, for "No one produced anything and no one earned anything!" a fair amount of people got out of debt. I don't even get how they can say that nobody has produced or earned anything when they're all being paid and paying off services they've previously used. They should really be teaching basic finance and accounting classes in high school.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:53
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Kegslayer posted:I don't even get how they can say that nobody has produced or earned anything when they're all being paid and paying off services they've previously used. They should really be teaching basic finance and accounting classes in high school. Except the person who reads that and affirms it is the kind of person who's thinking process is rooted in two basic axioms "debt=bad" and "debt for property is an exception". Credit cards are obviously left outside the axiom because they're really just a payday loan to yourself, and going in debt for a car is okay because declining value is balanced by the ability to work. The idea that "nothing good has happened when people have massively retired debt" is just the culmination of all the other idiotic things people think about economics and finance. It's the same mentality that says "rent money is dead money" and refuses to equate the cost of public transport with the cost of petrol.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:58
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They had a problem that they could solve for themselves. It took government intervention.
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Jun 7, 2014 10:00
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Shadeoses posted:
 The internet is too. (actual paid advertisement on Facebook. Literally a sponsored page)
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Jun 7, 2014 12:37
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Anidav posted:
Free market, bitches! If the makers of Vegemite think they can make a better profit by appealing to a broader market with their halal credentials, who are these anti-capitalist punks to think they can stand in the way of free enterprise? We should make their Facebook post illegal cause it threatens profits.
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Jun 7, 2014 12:44
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Don't feel sorry for Pensioners..quote:Poor pensioners 'sell prescription drugs' They're greedy drug pushers rorting the system.
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Jun 7, 2014 12:45
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"Poor" "Pensioners" can afford "drugs"
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Jun 7, 2014 12:46
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I love checking something like that out, scrolling through a dozen posts and thinking "yep, they're batshit" and have had enough then notice on that last post that they've all been posted in like the space of eight hours.
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Jun 7, 2014 12:50
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thatbastardken posted:"Poor" "Pensioners" can afford "drugs" Well technically as xutech suggest's their most likely rorting the PBS, flogging them off for more then they paid for them. 
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Jun 7, 2014 12:55
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Anidav posted:
The real talent would be making it non halal. Not that anyone actually cares what halal is, only that it's related to Muslims. Hey that air you're breathing? That's halal too.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:02
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Those On My Beet posted:Well technically as xutech suggest's their most likely rorting the PBS, flogging them off for more then they paid for them. Free market bitches.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:03
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Also their / they're gently caress I is tired
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Jun 7, 2014 13:08
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Zenithe posted:The real talent would be making it non halal. It is fun when Islamophobic people try to explain to you their understanding of what "halal" means re things like Vegemite.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:09
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You mean there's no alcohol or incorrectly slaughtered animals in my Vegemite??? 
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Jun 7, 2014 13:10
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Eating it makes you a Muhammadan sleeper agent, just like drowning a Muslim in pork fat condemns them to their factually correct hell!
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Jun 7, 2014 13:11
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:It is fun when Islamophobic people try to explain to you their understanding of what "halal" means re things like Vegemite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVPngzSE94o This video will entertain you then.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:20
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Anidav posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVPngzSE94o Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_1SFf8t-ko
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Jun 7, 2014 13:21
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Oh my god it's the "I don't oppose Islam as a country" woman 
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Jun 7, 2014 13:30
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:Oh my god it's the "I don't oppose Islam as a country" woman I remember her as the "Jews follow Jesus" woman
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Jun 7, 2014 13:32
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Zenithe posted:I remember her as the "Jews follow Jesus" woman Like the Abrahamic God, she has many names, each more beautiful than the last.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:35
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Anidav posted:
Thanks, I went and found that page and now I want to kill myself.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:36
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Anidav posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVPngzSE94o This is also noxious, by the way, I didn't ignore this! I really dislike the chirpy pseudo-educational/PSA tone these things have, too. It's grating, especially when one tries to sustain it, and can't help but make the speaker sound like a patronising git. The constant flubs are annoying as well. Just do a retake, you're cutting every ten seconds anyway 
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Wheezle posted:Thanks, I went and found that page and now I want to kill myself. What makes me want to kill myself is the fact someone paid for and used Facebook Ads to promote that page.
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