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Son of Thunderbeast posted:suicide survivor Black ribbon magnets are for death survivors.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Yes, it does, a lot. Even if it doesn't matter to you personally. How the hell do you survive suicide?
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Jun 7, 2014 00:43
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Fine, suicide attempt survivor.
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Jun 7, 2014 00:45
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The Pit of Despair. One of the most questionable experiments ever performed by Harry Harlow, a famous psychologist of questionable sanity, it was a hellish dungeon designed to cause massive, incurable depression in monkeys. Some of the monkeys resorted to self-harm and suicide. He also built scary robots and Rape Cages to really push the limits of how mentally broken a monkey can get before tearing out its own throat. 
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Jun 7, 2014 00:58
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That robot's even better in motion! He was using it to scare baby monkeys into choosing which "mother" they preferred, a fluffy "mother" or a terrifying wire-mesh "mother" that dispensed milk. MrGreenShirt has a new favorite as of 01:10 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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Jun 7, 2014 01:07
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:If the goal is to keep cars from getting dirty it sounds like a loving terrible solution. If left alone to "dry" it'll eventually become mostly solid. The idea is to keep dust down in the area, not off the car in particular. Especially since most dirt roads are traveled by worn out trucks and tractors, not brand new sedans.
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Jun 7, 2014 01:47
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djssniper posted:How the hell do you survive suicide? Being kind of an rear end in a top hat with an obviously very sensitive subject. It clearly took Thunderbeast a lot of courage to contriubute his/her story
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Jun 7, 2014 02:07
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:Does it really matter? Certainly its sad, I have a lot of empathy. I support much more comprehensive public mental health programs, they would be far more effective than a giant net. It's always sad when someone chooses to commit suicide, but we as societies or as individuals don't get to make choices for others or decide their medical care. 'I have a lot of empathy' *wants to see people die* One of these things is not like the others... For content, the Maya apparently consecrated their temples with the blood of sacrificed toddlers. Wikipedia posted:In 2005 a mass grave of one- to two-year-old sacrificed children was found in the Maya region of Comalcalco. The sacrifices were apparently performed for consecration purposes when building temples at the Comalcalco acropolis.[2]
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Jun 7, 2014 02:40
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Astrofig posted:'I have a lot of empathy' How is this any different from euthanasia? If someone really, really wants to end their own lives who are we to stop them?
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Jun 7, 2014 03:23
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MrGreenShirt posted:How is this any different from euthanasia? If someone really, really wants to end their own lives who are we to stop them? You don't see a difference between a metal illness and painful incurable diseases?
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Jun 7, 2014 03:26
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The level of extreme ignorance about suicide (not just in this thread) is just loving staggering.
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Jun 7, 2014 03:44
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duckmaster posted:The level of extreme ignorance about suicide (not just in this thread) is just loving staggering. This is a very personal issue for me. You are completely right, and it makes my loving blood boil. This is a matter of literal life and death so people need to stop spouting their uneducated horseshit guesswork on the matter. Temporarily stopping someone from committing suicide is an extremely worthwhile thing to do. "It doesn't matter, they'll just find another way" and "who are we to stop them?" are dangerously lovely opinions, so anyone who wants to say those things should strongly consider shutting the gently caress up instead.
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Jun 7, 2014 05:09
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King Prawn ain't wrong.MrGreenShirt posted:That robot's even better in motion! And that is completely horrifying, jesus christ For content, here's a perennial favourite: Albert Fish. Cannibal and general shitheel. Article includes an excerpt from that dreadful letter he sent the mother of the child he ate.
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Jun 7, 2014 06:26
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MrGreenShirt posted:How is this any different from euthanasia? If someone really, really wants to end their own lives who are we to stop them? You know the euthanasia is a controversial subject too, right? At least in so far as euthanizing people is concenrned.
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Jun 7, 2014 06:27
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Guys. This is comedy forum Something Awful dot com. People are going to say ridiculous poo poo.
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Jun 7, 2014 06:47
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there's nothing more demoralizing than some smug prick i dont know coming into my room as I'm putting a loaded gun to my head and spewing bullshit at me while i attempt to solve a lifetime of problems.
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Jun 7, 2014 07:40
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MissEchelon posted:King Prawn ain't wrong. Was what he said about China correct? Cuz that sort of societal horribleness is a topic worth this thread on its own.
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Jun 7, 2014 09:19
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FrumpleOrz posted:But you're making it seem like most suicides are done in a clear, healthy mind. That's not the case and if the person can be prevented from dying, they can get help. The Enfield Poltergeist was a story that creeped me out a lot when I was younger, although reading the Wikipedia article now it seems that it's been fairly well debunked as the kids in the house doing it for attention; that said, there's something a little bit creepy about an 11 year old being so committed to pulling off the whole stunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfield_Poltergeist and a bit more detail here: http://whofortedblog.com/2009/09/07/the-questionable-case-of-the-enfield-poltergeist/
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Jun 7, 2014 11:05
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FrumpleOrz posted:You don't see a difference between a metal illness and painful incurable diseases? If there's no guaranteed access to mental health care, isn't it terribly cruel to attempt to stigmatize suicide? I mean, otherwise you're telling the people that they should just get a job good enough to provide them with the insurance to pay for therapy/medication that can help them. Bootstraps?
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Jun 7, 2014 12:09
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It's true that if someone is determined to kill themselves, they will. But most suicide attempts are the result of temporary psychosis or other episode of severe mental illness. Suicide can be a rational decision, say to head off a painful death from terminal disease, but that's a tiny proportion of such deaths. Everyone has the right to end their own life if they want to. But many, in fact the majority, would not want to if they were not sick, and that makes suicide prevention a healthcare issue. Just as you would treat an infection with antibiotics you treat mental illness with suicide prevention measures in spots where it will save the most lives. And I've survived two suicide attempts, so I hope that earns me enough Oppression Pointstm to be allowed to express an opinion.
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Jun 7, 2014 12:57
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moller posted:If there's no guaranteed access to mental health care, isn't it terribly cruel to attempt to stigmatize suicide? I mean, otherwise you're telling the people that they should just get a job good enough to provide them with the insurance to pay for therapy/medication that can help them. Bootstraps? If Grok's clan no able to make fire, is wrong to tell should try no die from raw meat sickness? Make fire is hard work.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:05
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Axeman Jim posted:And I've survived two suicide attempts, Sounds like you're just not very good at it. If anyone wants to cut down goon suicides you should petition the mods and admins to close BYOB and put a mental health thred in let's play.
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Jun 7, 2014 14:15
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Shut up about suicide please, this isn't the thread for it.
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Jun 7, 2014 18:44
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Sounds like that whole "mass grave of babies in a septic tank" story was blown way out of proportion, according to the historian who made the discovery.
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Jun 7, 2014 18:45
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Sounds like that whole "mass grave of babies in a septic tank" story was blown way out of proportion, according to the historian who made the discovery. I once took a class in forensic anthropology which consisted of a woman telling her FA war story's while we went from desk to desk and wrote characteristics of various jon/jane does she had brought in. Apparently she gets called out to some camping location once a month to tell the sheriff of the city that it's not a mass baby grave but some buried chicken wing bones. Also something to think about is if you die and can't be identified ( dental records are a tv myth in terms of availability), your bones are cleaned and put in a cardboard box. And there you will sit for years at a time until an intern has time to start doing a detailed report comparing your characteristics to missing person reports.
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Jun 7, 2014 19:32
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I could almost see someone being approved for euthanasia because of depression, but drat that'd have to be some child molester war criminal of the year poo poo that would make a panel of top psychiatrists shake their heads and say "I wouldn't want to live with that either, youre basically Hitler", but if your life is that hosed up then you may as well try something radical like electroshock or some MK ULTRA drugs until you can't remember poo poo. So you should try "doped to the gills" first. It's not that some people need drugs to cope, it's that everyone requires a certain type and level of drugs to cope, for many people that's "none", but for some it's "way more than they're taking right now". And if that doesn't work there's the Euthinasia Coaster. 
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Jun 7, 2014 23:38
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RevSyd posted:I could almost see someone being approved for euthanasia because of depression, but drat that'd have to be some child molester war criminal of the year poo poo that would make a panel of top psychiatrists shake their heads and say "I wouldn't want to live with that either, youre basically Hitler", but if your life is that hosed up then you may as well try something radical like electroshock or some MK ULTRA drugs until you can't remember poo poo. Unfortunately "doped to the gills" is expensive. I wish I could afford it though.
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Jun 7, 2014 23:41
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MrGreenShirt posted:That robot's even better in motion! Holy poo poo I need this as a new avatar
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Jun 8, 2014 00:18
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Phobophilia posted:Holy poo poo I need this as a new avatar That might actually be more terrible than boxbot. Seriously though, jesus loving christ that guy and his experiments. 
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Jun 8, 2014 00:32
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a kitten posted:That might actually be more terrible than boxbot. When he was done with his despair monkeys he gave them to a zoo where they just sat there and screamed all day. The zoo put them on their own island away from all the animals frightened by their constant agony.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:41
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PYF Scary Article: They just sat there and screamed all day
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Jun 8, 2014 04:13
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DStecks posted:PYF Scary Article: They just sat there and screamed all day Harry Harlow posted:‘The only thing I care about is whether a monkey will turn out a property I can publish. I don't have any love for them. I never have. I don't really like animals. I despise cats. I hate dogs. How could you love monkeys? Dude's a nut. drat. a kitten has a new favorite as of 04:36 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Jun 8, 2014 04:34
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MissEchelon posted:For content, here's a perennial favourite: Albert Fish. Cannibal and general shitheel. Article includes an excerpt from that dreadful letter he sent the mother of the child he ate. "I killed, dismembered and ate your child, but don't worry, I didn't gently caress her!" That's where he draws the line. Horrifying.
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Jun 8, 2014 04:37
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Harry Harlow sounds like a Captain Planet villain or something.
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Jun 8, 2014 04:39
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Harry Harlow sounds like a Captain Planet villain or something. Want to give that nerd a loving swirly.
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Jun 8, 2014 06:21
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Harry Harlow sounds like a Captain Planet villain or something. 
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Jun 8, 2014 07:53
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Honestly those monkey studies, aside from being ethically horrific , gave a lot of insight into animal intelligence and social behavior. There's probably ways we could have learned that in a less morally depraved way, but it wasn't a completely worthless study where he just tortured animals for fun and we learned nothing.
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Jun 8, 2014 08:25
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Honestly those monkey studies, aside from being ethically horrific , gave a lot of insight into animal intelligence and social behavior. There's probably ways we could have learned that in a less morally depraved way, but it wasn't a completely worthless study where he just tortured animals for fun and we learned nothing. drat it Harlow, you're a loose cannon, but you get results!
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Jun 8, 2014 08:59
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Honestly those monkey studies, aside from being ethically horrific , gave a lot of insight into animal intelligence and social behavior. There's probably ways we could have learned that in a less morally depraved way, but it wasn't a completely worthless study where he just tortured animals for fun and we learned nothing. Apparently it put an end to the "hands off" approach to dealing with children that was popular at the time, and the theory that the child/mother dynamic was one purely of needs being fulfilled (food). Of course, after that when his wife died, he started getting into the nasty isolation stuff.
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Ok, not a Wikipedia article but this counts as creepy to me even though I'm sure there is a plausible explanation. Sorry, the source is the NY Daily News so take it with a grain of salt. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/great-white-shark-possibly-eaten-larger-mystery-animal-article-1.1821781 quote:Scientists are baffled after they discovered that 8-foot long great white shark has been eaten by even bigger "mystery sea monster."
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