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Party Plane Jones posted:One detail struck me as I was going through the Iraq ghetto section: a lot of the people you kill are basically kids when you first go there, I noticed at least 3/4 15 year olds. "Rossi-Fremont" is literally the Cabrini Green housing projects. (Which were torn down to make mixed-income housing relatively recently and the inhabitants dispersed throughout the rest of Chicagoland, leading to a bunch more White Flight, since a lot of Chicago is actually pretty racist. It's not something we like to talk about in public. Watch for long enough, and you see it.) Where's the Kotaku article on how a white dude murders all the bangers at Cabrini Green? The last missions with Iraq at the end made me very, very uncomfortable.
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Sometimes the Watch Dog Gods smile upon me and give me a hacking target that's already having his hands full with the cops.
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Tyberius posted:Sometimes the Watch Dog Gods smile upon me and give me a hacking target that's already having his hands full with the cops. Love when that happens. I was hiding behind a low wall watching a guy I was hacking have a shootout with the cops. Guy ran behind the wall, right past me, firing at the cops, never saw/profiled me. Best hack. edit: I had set off an IED in the street which caused him to start shooting at cars at random for some reason. Cops swarmed in on him good. And I've never been discovered hiding in a blue dumpster. I think people forget they're open on the top.
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Jun 9, 2014 07:00
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One thing this series is really going to need to work on in the future is stealth. Seriously MGS1 for the PSx had enemies that were 5 times smarter than the dudes in W_D. There is just no excuse for a game that emphasizes stealth in any to have enemies that dumb. Also, some of the items were just so drat overpowered in regards to stealth like the CTOS scan. it pretty much negates the need to even scout out an area, even though the game already has the modern mechanic of being able to see everyone through the walls once you look at them for 2 seconds. Yeah, I could have just not used CTOS scan at all (and I didn't for most of the game) but they really shouldn't have put something that trivializes it so much in there. It's just bad. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 08:02
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I like how doing any sort of hacking sounds the alarm for the entire place you're sneaking around. Even if it's just moving somthing. They instantly know somthing is up.
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Jun 9, 2014 08:04
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thegloaming posted:Are you using an AMD card? Ubisoft says there's a performance patch on the way. Oh, I have all my settings bottomed out. My compy's not just AMD, it's also at the bare minimum system requirements. I'll be getting a new computer in a couple months, then I can experience my ethically dissonant plotline in full graphical glory. Section Z posted:EDIT: To add insult to injury, doing the _CTRL mission. I thought I was imagining things, but the second time I got a good look. The blockers I hacked into place to stop the car I had to stay near to hack for a bit... Just went right back down as his car passed through it anyways. Then I hacked a bridge, it stopped him for all of two seconds before the bridge hack canceled itself, it didn't even have time to do anything but lower the wooden guards before it put them right back up again. I mean sure I beat the mission, but come on man. The targeted drivers in question are tech security heads for the organization that gave us Deadsec- they're unhacking stuff that blocks them. That said, if you can take out the car without killing them, I find you can take them down and hack their phone/corpse for the code. CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Where's the Kotaku article on how a white dude murders all the bangers at Cabrini Green? The last missions with Iraq at the end made me very, very uncomfortable. Aiden's character is painted as much more sympathetic to people in the area than, for example, Damien, who literally calls them nonhuman in an audio log. It's also indicated in-game that Iraq and his gang have killed or otherwise driven everyone else out of Rossi-Fremont. NESguerilla posted:One thing this series is really going to need to work on in the future is stealth. Seriously MGS1 for the PSx had enemies that were 5 times smarter than the dudes in W_D. The main difference is that it's in a sandbox setting, so there are adaptive requirements for enemy AI that smaller spaces like the MGS games never have to deal with- most of the "smartness" on display in the MGS series is instanced scripting. The only other sandbox games that I know of that do stealth are, well, the AC series. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 08:06
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:"Rossi-Fremont" is literally the Cabrini Green housing projects. (Which were torn down to make mixed-income housing relatively recently and the inhabitants dispersed throughout the rest of Chicagoland, leading to a bunch more White Flight, since a lot of Chicago is actually pretty racist. It's not something we like to talk about in public. Watch for long enough, and you see it.) Rossi-Fremont creeped me out a bit because the first time I went there it was during a lightning storm in the middle of the night, and the second I saw it I thought "Oh poo poo this was where Candyman took place!" That should have been Iraq's secret.
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Jun 9, 2014 08:20
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Discendo Vox posted:The main difference is that it's in a sandbox setting, so there are adaptive requirements for enemy AI that smaller spaces like the MGS games never have to deal with- most of the "smartness" on display in the MGS series is instanced scripting. The only other sandbox games that I know of that do stealth are, well, the AC series. Yeah but the addition of really basic stuff like moving bodies or repercussions for shooting an enemy right in front of another are pretty key to stealth. MGS 5 is going to be a sandbox and from what we've seen in Ground Zeroes you can't just indiscriminately shoot enemies with a silenced weapon to win and call it stealth. There's at least a little bit of depth. Plus Assassins Creed has really horrible stealth mechanics anyways. I don't think the Sandbox nature of W_D really excuses how bad the stealth was especially considering it was a selling point. For the record I like W_D but the stealth is pretty drat terrible. There's no two ways about it.
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Jun 9, 2014 08:40
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oh man I just had another amazing hack. Spent the entire time from 0-100% driving round and round in circles around a round-a-bout.
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Jun 9, 2014 08:44
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I can confirm that there is no award for clearing all the cash runs with gold medals. Nuts.
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Jun 9, 2014 09:55
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Copper For Lyfe posted:oh man I just had another amazing hack. Spent the entire time from 0-100% driving round and round in circles around a round-a-bout. This is a great idea, from what I hear (from Americans) most Americans don't know how roundabouts work and think they're weird, so they can't tell if you're driving poorly! I've now taken to stealing peoples cars when tailing them if they go into a shop. Some guy was so confused when I moved his car back 3 spaces.
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Jun 9, 2014 10:05
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dogstile posted:This is a great idea, from what I hear (from Americans) most Americans don't know how roundabouts work and think they're weird, so they can't tell if you're driving poorly!  For another tail, I blocked the street off with my fire-truck and turned the siren on, then proceeded to reverse back and forth blocking him from getting past. He never profiled me at all, I finished the tail just as he got past me. Either these players just play it super-cool and don't care or they're the densest fuckers.
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Jun 9, 2014 10:41
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Probably dense. You've just given me the idea of parking a truck in front of a shop door to trap players now though. Gonna be doing that tonight 
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Jun 9, 2014 10:53
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All the shops have back doors I'm pretty sure.
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Jun 9, 2014 10:58
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I was going to block both, also most players don't seem to realise that.
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Jun 9, 2014 11:18
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Turns out the spike strips are made of magic, they don't work when you reverse over them  edit: to top it off while typing this I got hacked by someone standing on a completely inaccessible rooftop... gg thepaladin4488 fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 11:26
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thepaladin4488 posted:Turns out the spike strips are made of magic, they don't work when you reverse over them They could be directional spike strips: 
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Jun 9, 2014 11:39
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WirelessPillow posted:They could be directional spike strips: Nah, if you drive forward over them from any side your tyres blow, if you reverse over them from either side they don't. Another slightly rage inducing hacking attempt, turns out you can't profile people in firetrucks from the ground without opening the door  edit: Hmm experimenting it does it when you go really really slow, not with any sort of speed. thepaladin4488 fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Jun 9, 2014 11:52
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thepaladin4488 posted:Nah, if you drive forward over them from any side your tyres blow, if you reverse over them from either side they don't. Do you have the tire durability upgrade? I didn't try before but with it I need to pretty much stop on top of the stingers to puncture my tires, that goes for both forward and revers.
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Jun 9, 2014 11:57
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Are all of these 'look into a room' side quest things awful? So far I've seen the old man dead on the ground with a phone call about how his son wants to move him in with the rest of the family, and how his grandkids want to see him again. A nerd rating ladies on his computer in a '5 of 10, would bang if desperate' way. And of course a topless woman playing russian roulette with her husband. Gotta get the tits in there for the young'uns. I've heard there's a Kinect one at some point, and that one sounded at least interesting. So far they've all just been kinda sad and gross. 
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Jun 9, 2014 12:01
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Hel posted:Do you have the tire durability upgrade? I didn't try before but with it I need to pretty much stop on top of the stingers to puncture my tires, that goes for both forward and revers. Yeah I do, it's just weird that no matter what speed I go going forward they will pop every time, but going in reverse above say jogging speed seems to have no effect at all.
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Jun 9, 2014 12:03
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ChibiSoma posted:Are all of these 'look into a room' side quest things awful? You didn't have the fat lady hanging herself yet? Lucky.
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Jun 9, 2014 12:16
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ChibiSoma posted:Are all of these 'look into a room' side quest things awful? Well, there's an Aisha Tyler cameo which was nice, because I like her, she's a cool lady. But I don't recall any uplifting, heartwarming ones.
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Jun 9, 2014 12:25
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I just did one where a guy has to do a rescue delivery of tp to some girl stuck on a toilet somewhere... Also just tried to hack a Ctos tower up on top of some apartments, when I get warned I'm being invaded. I'm way up on top of this building but the hack hasn't started yet, so I figure I'll just sit tight and see if he shows his face. Sure enough, 30 seconds later this guy climbs up on to the rooftop and takes cover behind a pillar a couple metres away from me. He's obviously not sure where I am so I try to sneak up on him and Baton his head in or whatever. I'm halfway towards him when my phone auto-profiles him and he panics as I start shooting. Dude just takes off running and bails over the nearest ledge. Five stories straight down 
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Jun 9, 2014 12:39
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ChibiSoma posted:Are all of these 'look into a room' side quest things awful? Nah, but it's like 80% of them. The initial chunk I found were all  type things. It was sort of like "wow we're all assholes" but then there are a few funny ones. Like the Plumber.
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Megazver posted:Well, there's an Aisha Tyler cameo which was nice, because I like her, she's a cool lady. There's the one of the dad reluctantly indulging his over-excited daughter in playing dress-up, which is kind of nice. Also the married couple roleplaying a plumber-porno scenario, which is oddly heartwarming since we never actually see it get sexual and they're obviously enjoying themselves. Also, while not a privacy invasion mission per se, one of the randomizer videos you can get while hacking a CTOS tower has a mother watching her newborn daughter sleeping. Not doing anything creepy, no freaky profiler text... just quietly watching the baby sleep in her crib.
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Jun 9, 2014 14:51
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The single dad on the other hand... 
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Backhand posted:Also, while not a privacy invasion mission per se, one of the randomizer videos you can get while hacking a CTOS tower has a mother watching her newborn daughter sleeping. Not doing anything creepy, no freaky profiler text... just quietly watching the baby sleep in her crib. That one was creepy. It was creepy because the profiler locks onto a 1 year and pulls its details. The details weren't creepy, but I thought that one sold the wrongness of CTOS more than many of the more outrageous videos
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So I got this game for my birthday just a few day ago. Was playing it a bit last night. Fun game, tons to do, but there's SO MANY features it's slightly overwhelming at first. I was about to do the apartment-hacking mission Where you get reunited from asshat who was hacking with you in the intro when I got a popup saying I couldn't do the mission because a fixer was hacking me. There was a popup about an invasion or something that made me thing Dark Souls. Was that another player or a randomly generated NPC? He got to like 80% before I whooped his rear end. Something about the behavior made me think player but the username was so generic (MM_SideShooter or something like that) I figured it could have been either way. I tried doing an online stalker mission but the matchmaking service wouldn't let me. I definitely enjoy it thus far. I tried playing it like GTA at first and that didn't work well - the first time I carjacked someone they called 911 and the cops did a manhunt for me. Also, is it just me or is Aiden REALLY unlikeable? khy fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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khy posted:So I got this game for my birthday just a few day ago. Theres one locked mission near the start where you have to deal with a hacker that simulates how multiplayer works, but I don't think it's the one you were talking about (it's before the one where you have to drive the guy and evade the cops) After that it's all people. They can be trying to hack you or tail you. Basically they join your game unannounced. In both modes they need to find and profile you, after that it works a little differently depending on the mode. In hack, they need to hack you like you would hack a camera. This reflects them "uploading a backdoor". At this point you are informed someone is in your game. It's then up to them to find somewhere they like and start the hack. That puts a circle over them that shows roughly where you are, and they try to hidelong enough to fill that bar. In tailing, they need to find you, and maintain line of sight. You don't, to the best of my knowledge, get notified about this at all normally. All they need to do is watch you like a big creep untill the bar fills up. I don't believe they even get notified if you win. In either gametype, if you try and start a mission while a player is invaded, it'll let you know, and you'll get involved in the "stop this bastard" mission. If you haven't recieved the INVADED alarm yet, get the hell away, because they either need to profile or watch you, so run like gently caress into a tunnel where you can jump them. I think starting something that you get locked out of because of a hacker is the only way to actually see the scorecard for tailing missions as someone getting tailed. Anyway, go do tailing and hacks, they are the best part of the game.
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dogstile posted:Probably dense. You've just given me the idea of parking a truck in front of a shop door to trap players now though. Gonna be doing that tonight As of November at least, this was the easiest way to grief players in GTA V online. There was no way to get out of a store if someone parked in front of the door. And robbing cashiers is one of the few ways to make money in that game so people are always going in.
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Jun 9, 2014 17:15
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Don't all stores have back doors? Or is it just some?
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Jun 9, 2014 18:27
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Fateo McMurray posted:Don't all stores have back doors? Or is it just some? Its been mentioned like 16 posts up I think. Most do. Tailing is poo poo tonight. Twice i've been spawned in on an open street and been killed before walking five feet. Three times i've spawned in a car that's sat in traffic and the guys grenade launchered the car before i've moved or been profiled. What the hells going on tonight?
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I've just started playing this, was screwing around with some mates, and was hoping to mess with each other doing stupid stuff round the city. However, when I logged into the ctos app on android, I didn't see how to find myself. Can I only mess with other accounts and not my own?
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I've lost 4 invasions now because Aiden can't pull his stupid loving face out of cover. The cover system is so completely hosed when you try and move around it is what I hate most about this game. When I pull the stick away from cover that means get out. Don't put an invisible God drat wall so I cant move around corners with out have to tap a button. Ubisoft makes the splinter cell games right? So why the gently caress can't they use that stealth system instead of this poo poo show.
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I've got to laugh at people that have little fortress areas they evidently hang out in all the time to win when they get invaded. Found one guy who was in some 3 sided shack that you had to get directly in front of to hack, and another who was on a tiny island that was inaccessible by car and he knew where I was hiding within seconds. Not sure how that is fun but ok! Just gotta move on to the next one.
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Jun 9, 2014 19:53
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beejay posted:I've got to laugh at people that have little fortress areas they evidently hang out in all the time to win when they get invaded. Found one guy who was in some 3 sided shack that you had to get directly in front of to hack, and another who was on a tiny island that was inaccessible by car and he knew where I was hiding within seconds. Not sure how that is fun but ok! Just gotta move on to the next one. On the bright side this makes it absolutely hilarious when you pull it off anyway. I had a guy yesterday who immediately caught on that I was in his game, and holed in up a tiny little one-way back alley with his weapon drawn, just pointed and waiting. Joke was on him; it was a tailing mission, and there was a camera directly above his head.
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Holy poo poo, I just did a takedown on a guy with my LMG equipped. Aidan shot the guy in the stomach, the bullet went through him and into the stomach of the woman behind him. I had no idea that could happen.
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Jun 9, 2014 21:09
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Once I realized the difference between completely good guy paragon reputation and completely bad guy renegade reputation is meaningless I have been killing everyone all the time. It makes the game much more enjoyable.
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Moochewmoo posted:Ubisoft makes the splinter cell games right? So why the gently caress can't they use that stealth system instead of this poo poo show. Isn't this system straight out of conviction/blacklist?
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