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http://phys.org/news/2014-06-world-forest-species.html What a list to be on quote:The ten countries that lost the most forest area between 1990 and 2010 were Brazil, Indonesia, Nigeria, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Democratic Republic of Congo, Myanmar, Bolivia, Venezuela and Australia, it said.
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Cleretic posted:I still want terms I can use for elected officials that carry no connotations of respect, because this lot doesn't deserve any. Nuffies
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This thread is the best place to learn slag. First it was 'budgie smuggler' and today it's 'nong'. I love this thread.
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http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...0609-39t93.htmlquote:Tony Abbott is seeking a conservative alliance among "like-minded" countries, aiming to dismantle global moves to introduce carbon pricing, and undermine a push by US President Barack Obama to push the case for action through forums such as the G20.
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Jun 9, 2014 23:00
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Abbott doing dumb things is amusing and it's more newsworthy than the latest Kardashian outfit. Stop being killjoys and sucking the fun out of everything.
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Jun 9, 2014 23:04
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What a massive piece of poo poo. Undermining climate change action is flat-out one of the most irrational and short-sighted things you can do at this point in history
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Jun 9, 2014 23:07
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quote:it's not that we don't seek to deal with climate change Uh-huh. I defer to my man FDR here. http://youtu.be/S3RHnKYNvx8
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Jun 9, 2014 23:15
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Only Tones would say "Job creation is more important than having a planet that we can live on.". Now he's campaigning for the Republicians in the US to help his mates in big oil.
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Jun 9, 2014 23:21
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Vladimir Poutine posted:What a massive piece of poo poo. Undermining climate change action is flat-out one of the most irrational and short-sighted things you can do at this point in history
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CrazyTolradi posted:Only Tones would say "Job creation is more important than having a planet that we can live on.". Now he's campaigning for the Republicians in the US to help his mates in big oil. Thats just lip service. He knows full well that his rich mates are pretty well placed to cope with the worst effects of climate change. They're rich so rising food prices wont be a problem, private security will deal with those uppity poors when they start rioting, they can afford to buy a new house in a cooler region less prone to uncomfortable heatwaves or one less vulnerable to sea level rises. In short, climate change is a problem for the poors, the rich have the means to deal with it already so why would old mate Tones back something that hurts his constituents to fix something that in their minds doesn't need to be fixed that urgently?
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Rik Mayall is dead  quote:Edmondson added: "There were times when Rik and I were writing together when we almost died laughing. adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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gay picnic defence posted:Thats just lip service. He knows full well that his rich mates are pretty well placed to cope with the worst effects of climate change. They're rich so rising food prices wont be a problem, private security will deal with those uppity poors when they start rioting, they can afford to buy a new house in a cooler region less prone to uncomfortable heatwaves or one less vulnerable to sea level rises. It's all good, they'll be able to live on the sea on floating retirement paradise cities: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-10/an-plans-for-floating-microcountries-with-27start-up27-govern/5511500 Also, in regards to renewables: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-10/snowtown-wind-farm-locals-support/5511396 Local communities supporting a wind farm, who'd have thought maybe people might want to not totally poo poo up the planet (I guess there's also the nice payments they get for having them on their land too)?
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New Zealand, India and UK are all likely to tell australia and canada to gently caress off on the topic of climate change. The UK and NZ , under conservative govts, have both introduced ETS systems and are adamant about tackling the issue, and India is a country desparate to stop climate change as it has an immense amount to lose. Abbot and Harper are loving delusional and Tonys going to absolutely disgrace our international standing.
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duck monster posted:New Zealand, India and UK are all likely to tell australia and canada to gently caress off on the topic of climate change. I hope you're right, particularly about India, since they have an enormous population base.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:I hope you're right, particularly about India, since they have an enormous population base. Yeah, although its the UK thats the 'superpower' of sorts amongst the commonwealth nations, despite having a population only a few times larger than ours. I think Abbot will find his demented version of US style conservatism does not have the friends amongst the world conservative movement, outside the US tea party and perhaps Canada , that he thinks it might. And Canada, if my understanding of polling there is correct, seems itching to throw their idiot out as well.
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I don't think the union royal commission was intended to start like this. Bruce Wilson has stated he was offered $200k for dirt on Julia Gillard.
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Jon Faine on ABC Radio is reporting political dynamite that there was a conspiracy to get Gillard by paying off his ex-boyfriend with $200,000 to make up stories and lie about who paid for her house. He says the name of the lawyer who was doing it, but not who was backing it - the implication is it was either other members of the Union side (who may have been working for Rudd's benefit) or the Murdoch Press (who may have been working for Abbott's benefit). The Royal Commission has no terms of reference to investigate, and if it was the Murdoch Press, I predict they never will.
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 Adelaide Goons For those of you who don't have Facebook, a few of us are planning to do drinks at The Coffee Pot this Thursday at 6:30pm.
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Comstar posted:Jon Faine on ABC Radio is reporting political dynamite that there was a conspiracy to get Gillard by paying off his ex-boyfriend with $200,000 to make up stories and lie about who paid for her house. He says the name of the lawyer who was doing it, but not who was backing it - the implication is it was either other members of the Union side (who may have been working for Rudd's benefit) or the Murdoch Press (who may have been working for Abbott's benefit). Is it to much to trust that, having appointed a rigid legal conservative might backfire on them? I don't know (based on a reading of his career) how much Heydon prizes his independence, but is there even a gnats ball of a chance that he turns around and launches a rigorous investigation of everything brought up? The answer is no, isn't it.
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duck monster posted:And Canada, if my understanding of polling there is correct, seems itching to throw their idiot out as well. Canadians have, on the whole, wanted Harper gone since he was first elected. It's just they have FPTP in a non-two-party system which is totally loving them up.
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Other kids, do you understand nothing? How can Rick be dead when we still have his poems?
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Captain Pissweak posted:Canadians have, on the whole, wanted Harper gone since he was first elected. It's just they have FPTP in a non-two-party system which is totally loving them up. We warned hookshot about splits
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Captain Pissweak posted:Canadians have, on the whole, wanted Harper gone since he was first elected. It's just they have FPTP in a non-two-party system which is totally loving them up. Yup, this is true. He has a majority government while getting 39% of the vote last election 
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I heard your PM on the CBC blathering about how great Harper was, and I was so repulsed I had to change the station. I don't think I've ever hated a foreign head of state so much before.
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Sidakafitz posted:I heard your PM on the CBC blathering about how great Harper was, and I was so repulsed I had to change the station. I don't think I've ever hated a foreign head of state so much before. That's the correct response. Abbott is to Australia, as Harper is to Canad
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Sidakafitz posted:I heard your PM on the CBC blathering about how great Harper was, and I was so repulsed I had to change the station. I don't think I've ever hated a foreign head of state so much before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3IaKVmkXuk
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If the LNP had any sense, they wouldn't allow Tones to speak publically at all ever. He is literally their own worst enemy. I'm sure everyone on his overseas trips is thinking, "Wow, what a dickhead." whenever he opens his mouth. Maybe they should send him to an acting tutor to at least try to make him seem part human? How long before Tones starts to tell the US they're bullies for force climate change action on everyone? I mean, you wouldn't think he'd do it, but this is Tony we're talking about here.
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Abbott on climate change: Anyone else see the irony in the Canadian flag tag for this thread post the Harper speech? Question for Tony: With May 2014 CO2ppm at 401.88 and not just increasing (at 2.07ppm pa) but accelerating; and a debt to GDP stabilized at around 20% to 30% how do you declare a budget emergency but not a climate emergency? Obama posted:Look, it’s frustrating when the science is in front of us. ... We can argue about how. But let’s not argue about what’s going on. The science is compelling. ... The baseline fact of climate change is not something we can afford to deny. And if you profess leadership in this country at this moment in our history, then you’ve got to recognise this is going to be one of the most significant long-term challenges, if not the most significant long-term challenge, that this country faces and that the planet faces. The good news is that the public may get out ahead of some of their politicians.
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This post has attracted the greatest load of retards ever knocking Abbott. None have the brains to work out his sincerity and policies. Can you people tell me where Labor improved our economy please? NO ONE else has come within a bulls roar. The FACT is when Labor came to power our Govt Net Debt was $39B in the black, today its $256B in the RED, this is a turnaround of over a quarter of a Trillion Dollars. The die hard Labor people scream they saved us from the GFC, BULLSHIT. By Wayne Swans admission on Treasury figures it cost $60B, half of that was WASTE with the BER, Bats, failed Green schemes etc. So they had that in the bloody Bank left by Costello so where the hell did a quarter of a Billion dollars go. Look, one thing I would like to point out is no one has any idea of what a BILLION is in value. The new Adelaide Hospital is going to cost $1.8 Billion and take a zillion years to pay for it. The largest ship in the world, the Oasis of the Seas cost $1 Billion, The Denmark to Sweden link cost a staggering $4 Billion, the MASSIVE three Gorges Dam cost $23 Billion. The twin railway tunnels under the Swiss Alps going for the last 12 years is up to $10 Billion, what the gently caress did Gillard and Rudd do with Quarter of a Trillion Bucks in SIX FUCKINGYEARS? Its a HUMOUNGEOUS amount of money. I  you youtube comments. 
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"No one here understands what a billion dollars is!" *uses zillion as representative of a number unironically, farts*
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-10/berg-coalition-in-murky-waters-in-hunt-for-online-pirates/5511524 I'm confused, an IPA article that contradicts potential LNP policy? Am I reading the article correctly?
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The IPA are libertarian idiots and probably consume most of their media by torrenting content, hth.
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Captain Pissweak posted:The IPA are libertarian idiots and probably consume most of their media by torrenting content, hth. Totally puts it in perspective. I mean, the article is pretty much spot on and how I feel on torrenting, but it's the only thing I think I could ever agree on with a libertarian. But apart from that, I'm a dirty unionist who believes in a minimum wage and IR regulation and worker protections. I remember TPG used to forward those notices on to me, and I'd generally just reply and tell them there is no legal basis for the notice under Australian law and if the copyright holder wishes to take me to court, they're more than welcome to do so.
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That gem made its way into the Canada thread today too. Everyone gets to learn how much of a shithead Tony Abbott is when he goes overseas!
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Captain Pissweak posted:The IPA are libertarian idiots and probably consume most of their media by torrenting content, hth. Regardless of what you think of the author, the article is bang on the money in just about every respect.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:This post has attracted the greatest load of retards ever knocking Abbott. None have the brains to work out his sincerity and policies. Oh really? Well first of all if you mean thread then yes I agree - the centre of this thread is out in Water-mellon land. But if you mean to come and defend Tony on climate change then well you really shouldn't - because its rather implausible. As far as your actual post goes - well: Losing $300bn in the space of 6 years when government expenditure was around $300bn pa and GDP was $1.2tn to $1.5tn. That amounts to around 14% of government expenditure pa or around 3% of GDP. So yes deficits were run - but why? Where did the money go you ask? Did you look at the budget papers to find out? I mean you don't have to look very hard - the answer is in budget paper No1 for each of the years. The answer is here (you can look it up to confirm and I wouldn't want to spoil the discovery process for you): Growth in GDP and government revenue failed to meet forecasts, meanwhile in a shrinking economy the Federal Government continued with pre-GFC tax cuts and expenditure levels to stimulate the economy and minimise the short term social impact of any recession (which was being touted as a potential depression at the time) and as a result created a structural deficit. Now is that a bad thing? Well it is if you require a balanced budget year on year regardless of the economic cycle. Do you? Is that your policy? I'd like to know? I don't love youtube comments though. I don't post on youtube. But it's ALP and Liberal policy to have balanced budgets taken over the entirety of the economic cycle. Now we have a modest 20% debt to GDP and almost full employment (well some regions suck and youth unemployment is hit hardest) but  is in great shape compared to the rest of the world. So: What budget emergency? Well there is a case for a "budget emergency" but that's limited to the P&L - the need to get back to a balanced budget now the 'worst' is over. But what you can't do is sensibly argue for boom time fiscal policy to be applied in recessions. As far as avoiding the worst of the GFC goes I agree mostly with your post. There, lack of economic diversity and lack of competition in banking led to the ability to absorb the worst of the GFC's international effects. Meanwhile a housing shortage in Sydney pegged the market and supported prices; while a mining boom stimulated economic growth. As far as not knowing the difference between billions and zillions goes - yes guilty. But I suggest you don't know the difference between additional and changes to budget measures (Paper No2) and recurring programs and total budget position (paper no 1) in order to understand what a billion dollars is in the context of overall government expenditure and the economy as a whole.
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Hypation for your own sake I hope your post was ironic. e: though it is still a technically good post I guess kind of.
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