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Just picked up Robot John Goodman and boy this thing owns. It's so cool!
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DoctorWhat posted:Just picked up Robot John Goodman and boy this thing owns. It's so cool! I was like who the hell is 'Robert John Goodman' until I realized what I was misreading
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Jun 9, 2014 21:12
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DoctorWhat posted:Just picked up Robot John Goodman and boy this thing owns. It's so cool! Where did you find him?
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Jun 9, 2014 22:58
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Xenomrph posted:Where did you find him? Toys "R" Us Times Square - it was the last one I could see as of around noon today.
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Jun 9, 2014 23:04
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Phy posted:I was like who the hell is 'Robert John Goodman' until I realized what I was misreading Read it exactly the same way
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Jun 10, 2014 00:41
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Captain Magic posted:SirToys seems like the place. You can even get it in funky colors! Oh well wouldya look at that. Might be worth the risk for that price, thanks!
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Jun 10, 2014 06:26
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So the preview for RID has Galvatron, in the distant past, fighting an honest to god Headmaster. Remember Thinkbox, Spike? Are you ready for the ultimate twist, a reference to Heart of Darkness alongside a reference to the ongoing?
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Jun 10, 2014 08:43
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Spiderdrake posted:So the preview for RID has Galvatron, in the distant past, fighting an honest to god Headmaster. Well that surprises me, IDW usually goes out of their way to ignore pretty much any notable sub-type of Transformer besides Combiners and Recordicons, and even those don't have much notability to them(seriously 99% of the time a Combiner will show up, last for somewhere between 1 to 5 pages and then get it's rear end kicked without having accomplished much), it's one of those aspects of IDW Transformers that bugs me heavily
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Jun 10, 2014 12:36
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Heart of Darkness? What's that? Well, you'll have to tell me some other time, as I seem to have developed a nose bleed and am going to go have a bit of a lie down.
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Jun 10, 2014 14:50
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http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=31372196&prodFindSrc=search&cp= Grimlock gone strangehamster fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Jun 10, 2014 16:51
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drrockso20 posted:Well that surprises me, IDW usually goes out of their way to ignore pretty much any notable sub-type of Transformer
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Jun 11, 2014 02:36
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strangehamster posted:http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=31372196&prodFindSrc=search&cp= Slag be here soon.
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Jun 11, 2014 02:54
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Spiderdrake posted:What are you defining as "notable sub-types"? Well you see Chromedome, Hardhead, Nightbeat, Star Saber, Overlord, Thunderclash, and an entire race of Minicons don't count because
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Jun 11, 2014 03:06
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404GoonNotFound posted:Well you see Chromedome, Hardhead, Nightbeat, Star Saber, Overlord, Thunderclash, and an entire race of Minicons don't count because Well they don't, because all those guys you just listed aren't actually Headmasters, Powermasters, Brainmasters and so on in the actual comics. IDW Chromedome's head doesn't pop off and become a little dude. It IS a little disappointing but honestly it doesn't bother me that much. I don't loose any sleep over it. IDW is it's own new thing.
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Jun 11, 2014 03:23
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As someone who doesn't follow the comics, has anyone at Hasbro or IDW (or the creators of the comics) said why? I mean, it seems pretty easy to just use the Japanese show explanation, and have the little Headmaster dude be the main consciousness that just combines with a big vehicle in order to fight better.
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Jun 11, 2014 03:33
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Well, two parts to that: First: Headmasters were a poisoned well for years in IDW due to how Furman handled them, so they've avoiding tackling the issue again until now. See also: Female transformers and Pretenders. Also yes yes body horror I know. Also Spindrift. Also Thinkbox. Also, mmm, almonds. Second: The headmaster shown in the preview is a smaller bot that makes up the head of a larger body for an unspecified reason. It is possible in this new age of retcons they're going to have Scorponok was trying to rebuild "his kind" from the previous war or saw it as a solution to his body's failings. And yeah the 'previous civil war' storybeat goes all the way back to the G1 cartoon. Bitchin'. The idea of the Golden Age coming out of previous wars is one of my favorite elements of G1.
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Jun 11, 2014 03:42
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Spiderdrake posted:What are you defining as "notable sub-types"? Pretty much any transformer that isn't a standard 'robot to vehicle or animal' two-mode one
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Gaz-L posted:As someone who doesn't follow the comics, has anyone at Hasbro or IDW (or the creators of the comics) said why? I mean, it seems pretty easy to just use the Japanese show explanation, and have the little Headmaster dude be the main consciousness that just combines with a big vehicle in order to fight better. Firstly, because that's not the story they're trying to tell, and the last thing they need is the additional baggage of explaining why some dudes are other types of dudes. And, as said, IDW is it's own thing. I'm a big Beast Wars fan but I am just enjoying Waspinator and Rattrap for who they are, not grinding my teeth about the fact that they should be descendants of the G1 guys ("great aunt Arcee" and all that). Why cookie Rocket fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Jun 11, 2014 05:41
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Gaz-L posted:As someone who doesn't follow the comics, has anyone at Hasbro or IDW (or the creators of the comics) said why? I mean, it seems pretty easy to just use the Japanese show explanation, and have the little Headmaster dude be the main consciousness that just combines with a big vehicle in order to fight better. If you don't have toys that feature that gimmick to sell with your fiction, why bother to introduce such a convoluted and clumsy element into said fiction? Would the Chromedome/Rewind relationship have been improved any if Chromedome's head became a little robot? I suggest it would not.
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Jun 11, 2014 07:18
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drrockso20 posted:Pretty much any transformer that isn't a standard 'robot to vehicle or animal' two-mode one Yeah, where are those throttle bots and spark shooting guys?
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Jun 11, 2014 07:19
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I have Scoria on preorder at tfsource. I'm going to preorder Sever, just because 1) it's not grimlock and 2) stegosaurii were very cool. If you disagree with the latter sentiment, your life is forfeit.
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Jun 11, 2014 07:54
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The monsterbots were in maximum dinobots or whatever and I think their sparking was referenced, but I don't know where my copy is. The throttlebots fought Sixshot in one of Metroplex's confusing appearances that never built to anything really. Also I was actually looking for a more specific list, because the comic does have Headmasters, triple changers, duocons, seacons, the predators, pretenders, one of the six-changers and beastformers of several kinds.
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Jun 11, 2014 07:55
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Spiderdrake posted:The monsterbots were in maximum dinobots or whatever and I think their sparking was referenced, but I don't know where my copy is. The throttlebots fought Sixshot in one of Metroplex's confusing appearances that never built to anything really. Well yeah some stuff has shown up but it's almost always briefly and unimportant in nature(and that's if they don't just get immediately get killed off before getting a chance to do something interesting)
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Jun 11, 2014 09:28
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His point is that while characters in those subgroups are in the IDW stuff, there's no trace of their subgroup's "gimmicks". Flywheels (a Duocon) is in MTMTE and gets killed by the DJD, but he isn't actually made up of two combining vehicles. Guzzle (a Sparkabot) is in Last Stand of the Wreckers, but he doesn't spark or anything. Scoop (a Targetmaster) is in RID, but his gun buddies are nowhere to be found. This is actually a little surprising since he just got a new toy that even came with a pack-in comic. Although I'm more surprised that the recent toy didn't have a more G1-style head like he does in the comic, but oh well.
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Jun 11, 2014 09:33
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Scoops targetmaster partners are with him all the time up until he gets arrested in RID
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Jun 11, 2014 10:59
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Other posted:Scoops targetmaster partners are with him all the time up until he gets arrested in RID Cybertronian Child Welfare took them.
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Jun 11, 2014 11:42
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Oh my god I can not wait until Scoria ships, the anticipation is killing me! Anyone have an opinion either way on what color I should get for Fans Toys Not-Swoop? I preordered both because I wasn't sure, but there is no way I can spend $400 on Swoops. I'm thinking the cartoon colors are the way to go, even though that won't really fit with Scoria. But they don't all have to be uniform color ... do they? Haha.
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Jun 11, 2014 11:49
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Spiderdrake posted:Well, two parts to that: Yeah, Furman really screwed the pooch when it came to Headmasters, Pretenders and female transformers. I never liked the American "binary bonding" thing, where you have a sentient robot giving up its head and letting a human take its place, but the headless robot still has a personality. It's just really weird. It was weird in the US comics, the cartoon and the IDW comics. I much prefer the Japanese idea of transtectors, where they're just little robots and the bodies are basically mechs that they drive so they can be as big as the other transformers. I like to think of Headmasters as being the same thing as Micromasters, but they just decided to turn into heads instead of tiny cars and stuff. Of course, the actual Headmasters anime is terrible and unwatchable, but I like the idea better. I'd take the Rebirth and the Marvel Comics over Headmasters any day, as weird as they are.
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I'm getting Scoria sometime soon. I ordered through Captured Prey, and that dude is going to Botcon, so he's not shipping (I believe) for another couple of weeks. That actually suits me fine, though, as I'm going to be out of town on vacation for the next two weeks. I would like to go ahead and pre-order Swoop and Snarl (especially Snarl, Stegosaurus is my favorite dinosaur ever), but my budget is pretty limited at the moment. Stupid vacations. Why go to Hawaii when I just want to drown in molded plastic? I've never understood all the love for Headmasters, but they make about as much sense as combiners do, and I loving love combiners, so...
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Jun 11, 2014 14:23
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Latest issue of RID made me giggle like a child for a while:  Spacebus  .
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Jun 11, 2014 14:56
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Ka0 posted:I have Scoria on preorder at tfsource. I'm going to preorder Sever, just because 1) it's not grimlock and 2) stegosaurii were very cool. If you disagree with the latter sentiment, your life is forfeit. Also triceratops was better. Snarl and Sludge are the Dinobots I'm most worried about, they're the species that have changed their look the most since the 70's/80's interpretations of dinosaurs. Slag has a short enough tail that it doesn't really apply, and Grimlock you can just tip forward, but if Snarl or Sludge are tail-draggers I'm going to be very conflicted on my purchase.
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Jun 11, 2014 16:57
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Knormal posted:I do disagree with your improper pluralization of stegosaurus, if you wanted to do it Latin-style it would just by stegosauri, and I'm not going go get into how it's actually a Greek root. It's just stegosauruses, or stegosaurs if you're referring to the group as a whole. Look at it this way: the Dinobots aren't smart enough to know the difference.
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Jun 11, 2014 16:59
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Other posted:Scoops targetmaster partners are with him all the time up until he gets arrested in RID The only people who "get" their connection to Scoop are people already familiar with old-school G1 scoop. There's nothing in RID itself to indicate that he or they are Targetmasters, just like Flywheels isn't truly a Duocon.
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Jun 11, 2014 17:19
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And that's fine, because authors shouldn't be slaves to 30-year-old toy gimmicks.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:And that's fine, because authors shouldn't be slaves to 30-year-old toy gimmicks. Earlier it was mentioned that Furman "poisoned the well" regarding Headmasters - could anyone elaborate? The only IDW stuff I really know well is LSOTW, RID, and MTMTE, other than what I've read on tfwiki. I've read a few random Spotlights, but my memory of them is iffy.
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Xenomrph posted:I agree, I was just illustrating the point that "including characters from a subgroup" is not the same as "representing the traits of that subgroup" (in the way that having combiners or actual Headmasters is, etc). Yeah I wasn't sassing at you, I just think it's a very silly thing to be annoyed with. Rattrap being out-and-out neutral evil is a much bigger problem than Spinister's missing gun buddies. Xenomrph posted:Earlier it was mentioned that Furman "poisoned the well" regarding Headmasters - could anyone elaborate? The only IDW stuff I really know well is LSOTW, RID, and MTMTE, other than what I've read on tfwiki. I've read a few random Spotlights, but my memory of them is iffy. Furman jettisoned traditional Headmaster fiction (which was always messy at best) and added some truly grotesque body horror in it's place. IMO, it rules. It's worth reading without being spoiled.
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What of the non-ongoings is worth reading? I'd like to read more of this IDW nonsense but I seem to be getting mixed reviews on most everything. Should I grab the giant anthologies or is it just not worth the time?
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Honest Ray posted:What of the non-ongoings is worth reading? I'd like to read more of this IDW nonsense but I seem to be getting mixed reviews on most everything. Should I grab the giant anthologies or is it just not worth the time? Xenomrph posted:I agree, I was just illustrating the point that "including characters from a subgroup" is not the same as "representing the traits of that subgroup"
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I was referring to what drrockso and Gammatron said:drrockso20 posted:Well that surprises me, IDW usually goes out of their way to ignore pretty much any notable sub-type of Transformer besides Combiners and Recordicons, and even those don't have much notability to them(seriously 99% of the time a Combiner will show up, last for somewhere between 1 to 5 pages and then get it's rear end kicked without having accomplished much), it's one of those aspects of IDW Transformers that bugs me heavily Gammatron 64 posted:Well they don't, because all those guys you just listed aren't actually Headmasters, Powermasters, Brainmasters and so on in the actual comics. IDW Chromedome's head doesn't pop off and become a little dude.
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wow i can't believe we're talking about fiction or continuity or toys or whatever and not about how loving cute 'Spacebus' is.
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