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“Dear Tony Abbott My name is Orlando Burcham, I am 11 years old and I would like to know why you don’t allow “gay marriage” in Australia. Because the majority of Australians are happily married, so why are you stopping all the gay men/women to be married in this beautiful country? My mother is gay and even worse your own sister is gay! And thousands more are as well. You have actually met my mum (Councillor Cordelia Troy) who is a member of the Liberal Party and she was deputy major at the time. It is so pathetic that you aren’t letting the gay people of Australia and other countries get married here. Millions of people in the world and when they come to Australia and think “wow this place is great! Let’s get married here!” And then they remember that they can’t. So they spend thousands of dollars to go somewhere they can get married. My mum is married but she had to go to New York, which took a lot of money. You were elected to represent our country, not yourself. Just because you think it’s wrong, does not give you the right to make it illegal. Doesn’t our opinions matter to you? Just because you’re the Prime Minister, which by the way does not give you all the power. I hope you change your mind.”
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“Dear Orlando Thank you for letting me know your views about same sex marriage. I appreciate the deep feelings that many in the community have on either side of the issue. The Government supports the current definition of marriage contained in the Marriage Act 1961. Any change to this policy would be a matter for the Coalition Party Room. My personal opinion is to support the existing definition of marriage. Though we disagree on this issue, I respect the views you have put forward. Ongoing dialogue between government and citizens keeps our democracy strong. Thank you again for writing to me. Yours sincerely Tony Abbott”
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:19 |
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:Is fatshaming Joe Hockey okay? Why would it be?
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:19 |
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You won't believe this one simple trick discovered by an 11 year old to get gay marriage legalised.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:20 |
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:This is why I stopped reading this thread. You have to filter through 10 pages of you idiots getting baited over and over and over to get 1/2 a page of good content. That's why we have the GBS thread, so you can practice.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:20 |
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Was that actual received correspondence? It's a pretty decent approximation of what I would expect in reply to a letter like that. Apparently, Chris Lilley's latest opus has pissed off the Tongan community. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-12/jonah-from-tonga-social-media-reaction/5518516 quote:The Tongan community says it is sending a clear message to the world: "We are not Jonah."
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:25 |
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Bent Wookiee posted:Was that actual received correspondence? It's a pretty decent approximation of what I would expect in reply to a letter like that. Wow, who could have foreseen this? Turns out brownface still isn't a sign of respect. Also yeah, that's the actual reply the kid got. It's pretty great. (It's actually awful.)
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:27 |
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Bent Wookiee posted:Was that actual received correspondence? It's a pretty decent approximation of what I would expect in reply to a letter like that. Yep Screw the news.com.au link
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:30 |
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I love how Tony just states "That's my personal opinion" as if that is totally enough as to why marriage laws are as they are. The thing about equal marriage rights is that I've not heard any argument against it that isn't based either religiously or from personal belief.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:36 |
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Joe Hockey has become delusional.quote:Treasurer Joe Hockey denies government has lost the budget battle
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:36 |
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Lid posted:Joe Hockey has become delusional. "If my budget was poo poo, I'd most assuredly tell you. Since I don't think my budget is poo poo, you must be wrong to think it is."
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:43 |
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:I've put my first person onto my ignore list. I feel this is the first part of becoming a real womyn. For best results, install the SAPlusPlus GreaseMonkey script: http://userscripts.org:8080/scripts/show/94231 And use the Hellban option. Not only does it hide all posts by that user, it blocks their comments from other people posts as well. Like the script page says, it effectively erases them from existence. I find it's good to clear out the Hellban list every couple months, just to see if things have changed or not.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:45 |
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Something something shared grievance.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:46 |
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open24hours posted:Something something shared grievance. Speaking of which quote:Unemployed youth must apply for 40 jobs a month
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:55 |
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Who would want to employ someone dumb enough to work for free for six months?
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:58 |
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New C&D: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wETpW43WYjo Lid posted:Joe Hockey has become delusional. There is no dissent against the budget!
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:05 |
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Lid posted:Speaking of which Wow, they're now asking us to do what's literally impossible to actually get money. I've been applying to every job that even casually mentions my expertise, and I can't actually expand that net further because looking for jobs based on 'writing' bring up jobs that have the word in the ad. I don't even hit the 8-10 a fortnight count normally, there's no way in hell I'd hit 40 a month. Hell, there haven't even BEEN any jobs in the sector this past week. Probalby because I'm in South Australia, and in the job-dry country of 2014 Australia, SA is the driest. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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By global standards, the cost of living in Australia is reasonable. Australians are purchasing homes out of proportion to their income. Purchase a modest home and pay it off sooner. Stop the dinning out, travel, drinks at the pub, smoking, gambling, entertaining and invest that money in your home. The only way to reduce housing costs is to examine the cost structure. Australian building methods are European 19th century. Europe, USA and Canada stop using those construction methods because the costs are prohibited and started using cheaper alternative methods.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:07 |
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Lid posted:The Government supports the current definition of marriage contained in the Marriage Act 1961. Any change to this policy would be a matter for the Coalition Party Room. When speaking to 11 year olds, I always cite statute to legitimise my personal opinion.
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Cleretic posted:Wow, they're now asking us to do what's literally impossible to actually get money. I've been applying to every job that even casually mentions my expertise, and I can't actually expand that net further because looking for jobs based on 'writing' bring up jobs that have the word in the name. There's your issue, Cleretic. I had six weeks on Newstart once - you're not supposed to only go for things that casually mention your expertise, you're supposed to apply for anything and everything.
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HookShot posted:Everyone's also ignoring that regardless of whether a pregnant woman is willing and capable of working, a pregnant woman in Australia is incredibly unlikely to be hired for any job - in fact, employers are more likely to lay them off, even if it is illegal. Those On My Left posted:In the real world, in Australia, in 2014, pregnant women (especially poor pregnant women who need income support) are going to face special disabilities and prejudices in the job market. I thought this was so glaringly obvious that it wouldn't even need stating. Pregnant women in Australia no matter how much effort is done to avoid it, are going to face discrimination when seeking employment.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:10 |
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:This is why I stopped reading this thread. You have to filter through 10 pages of you idiots getting baited over and over and over to get 1/2 a page of good content. Scroll past everything while keeping an eye out for one sentence paragraphs or giant quote blocks that usually indicate a news item. It's the only way.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:13 |
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So has it suddenly become part of the cost of business to field all the walk in job applicants? I know what my response to Centrelink would be if they asked if <name of victim> had applied for a job <specified time>. "I'll have to check up and get back to you." You can lie your arse off in the confidence that, should anyone ever check, the business involved will either have no record of anything or fob them off. They didn't even give this a cursory thinking through.
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Milky Moor posted:There's your issue, Cleretic. I had six weeks on Newstart once - you're not supposed to only go for things that casually mention your expertise, you're supposed to apply for anything and everything. Is there any reason I shouldn't apply for the poo poo that I literally can't do, side from 'you might accidentally get the job'? I'm not entirely sure how to do this 'apply to everything' thing.
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Milky Moor posted:There's your issue, Cleretic. I had six weeks on Newstart once - you're not supposed to only go for things that casually mention your expertise, you're supposed to apply for anything and everything. Yeah this is the answer they're going to give. Centrelink even talks about the jobseeker being obliged to accept any job that they're capable of doing.
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Cartoon posted:
Don't so this, some small business owners are arseholes (shocking I know) and will just say "no I've never heard of them" if they can't remember or have no intention of looking.
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IronicBeetCriminal posted:Don't so this, some small business owners are arseholes (shocking I know) and will just say "no I've never heard of them" if they can't remember or have no intention of looking.
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Cleretic posted:Is there any reason I shouldn't apply for the poo poo that I literally can't do, side from 'you might accidentally get the job'? The intent is you apply at supermarkets and fast food and anything like that. Remember that in the world Tony and his ilk come from job applications aren't really a thing. You have a vague aptitude for something and a rich contact hooks you up with work in that field. In their eyes if you aren't immediately walking into a job then you clearly aren't trying hard enough.
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# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:25 |
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There's some good stuff in Hockey's speech, such as this gem:quote:Official data shows average real household disposable income has gone from $540 per week in 1994 to over $820 per week now – that means the average Australian household is almost $290 per week better off today in real terms than they were around two decades ago. $540 x inflation since 1994 (70.4%) = $920 hmmmmmmm
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Jumpingmanjim posted:By global standards, the cost of living in Australia is reasonable. What if doing fun things is what makes life worth living and you don't want to buy a house 50km out of the city because that's the only place you can afford to buy without tithing 50% of your pay to the bank for the next 30 years?
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Cleretic posted:Is there any reason I shouldn't apply for the poo poo that I literally can't do, side from 'you might accidentally get the job'? I would and did. It's not like someone can question you on it. 'I thought I had a decent chance for (bullshit reason),' is what I'd say if I was called on it. But I never was.
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But forty jobs in a month is insane. That'd exhaust every possibility around me in Oakleigh in that first month. And then what?
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Milky Moor posted:But forty jobs in a month is insane. That'd exhaust every possibility around me in Oakleigh in that first month. And then what? Apply again.
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Apply for dream jobs far afield, and say "willing to relocate"?
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Milky Moor posted:I would and did. It's not like someone can question you on it. 'I thought I had a decent chance for (bullshit reason),' is what I'd say if I was called on it. But I never was. Well, at least I can do that. Senor Tron posted:The intent is you apply at supermarkets and fast food and anything like that. Yeeeeah, gently caress that one. My sisters aren't terribly fantastic role models for anything, given one's a high school dropout and the other worked at Pizza Hut for nearly a decade until moving away, but both of them agreed on one thing: No fast food jobs, no retail jobs.
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John Birmingham suggested in one of his earlier books to apply for executive level jobs listed in those quarter page ads in the newspaper. Helps to pad out your numbers and unlike small business they're almost guaranteed to send you a formal rejection letter.
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Milky Moor posted:But forty jobs in a month is insane. That'd exhaust every possibility around me in Oakleigh in that first month. And then what? Not to mention that applying doesn't guarantee poo poo. You apply for 40 Jobs. Lets say you get 20 interviews? Each interview has probably, at least 10-20 people competing for the role. One friend of mine applied for 160 in 3 months jobs when she moved to Brisbane. Got lots of interviews, lots of second interviews where she was "in the top 3/top 5". After 3 months still had no work. Keep in mind you have limited income for petrol/public transport. If you are applying for jobs out of town. Enjoy the fact you can't AFFORD to move cities.
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Murodese posted:There's some good stuff in Hockey's speech, such as this gem: Assuming the actual numbers aren't wrong, what Joe has said there is not necessarily incorrect since he is comparing two values in real terms. Your calculation says that $540 in 1994 has the same real value as $920 today. Using the same 70.4% inflation rate, if Joe's $820 is in today's dollars then he's saying that households in 1994 had a disposable income of $317 per week. It seems way better to just quote a percentage increase rather than a dollar value though. Clugg fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Haters Objector posted:What if doing fun things is what makes life worth living and you don't want to buy a house 50km out of the city because that's the only place you can afford to buy without tithing 50% of your pay to the bank for the next 30 years? And then the fuel and wear and tear costs from your two hour commute, and the increased price of groceries, siphon away everything you saved by buying a $350k house 50km out instead of a $500k studio apartment in the city. But that's OK because the cost of living is just fine, why aren't you renting like everyone else?
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Joe's a loving idiot so he's probably just equating the value of money today to 1994.
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