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Grand Fromage posted:Every Korean city has a stupid flag/logo, but Daejeon's is hands down the best. Is the flag really in english? EDIT: Google and wikipedia say "yes" but I can't find any image of it actually flying from a building. Hot air balloon yes, building no.
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Yes, all the city flags/slogans are in English. Otherwise Seoul couldn't have their wonderful and deeply original pun, Soul of Asia! 
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Grand Fromage posted:Every Korean city has a stupid flag/logo, but Daejeon's is hands down the best. Not a flag or anything but the official tourist slogan of the Dutch (rather boring) city of Tilburg:  "Tilburg. You are here."
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I'm sorry, but who would agree that Belgium is more ethnically diverse than the USA? Just because they are divided between the Flemish and Walloons? Both very much white? And a small German minority I suppose.
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Torrannor posted:I'm sorry, but who would agree that Belgium is more ethnically diverse than the USA? Just because they are divided between the Flemish and Walloons? Both very much white? And a small German minority I suppose. I dunno, applying the American arbitrary criteria probably wouldn't make any sense. By that measure most of Africa would be red due to being black, and therefore with little ethnic variance or something.
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Jun 12, 2014 20:51
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Ya that map more than a lot of others NEEDS to let us know its criteria.
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quote:When five economists and social scientists set out to measure ethnic diversity for a landmark 2002 paper for the Harvard Institute of Economic Research, they started by comparing data from an array of different sources: national censuses, Encyclopedia Brittanica, the CIA, Minority Rights Group International and a 1998 study called "Ethnic Groups Worldwide." They looked for consistence and inconsistence in the reports to determine what data set would be most reliable and complete. Because data sources such as censuses or surveys are self-reported – in other words, people are classified how they ask to be classified – the ethnic group data reflects how people see themselves, not how they're categorized by outsiders. Those results measured 650 ethnic groups in 190 countries. From http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/16/a-revealing-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-ethnically-diverse-countries/ aka 100% Premium USDA Bull poo poo
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Jun 12, 2014 20:56
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You'd think Russia would score higher. Taken from here.
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steinrokkan posted:I dunno, applying the American arbitrary criteria probably wouldn't make any sense. By that measure most of Africa would be red due to being black, and therefore with little ethnic variance or something. I don't know what you mean with American arbitrary criteria (I'm German). I very much think that Belgium is pretty diverse, with the main groups speaking different languages and having different cultures, but they are still two Western European white ethnic groups, and I just don't think that rivals the ethnically diverse make-up of the USA.
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Sometimes, small towns don't have big budgets or long histories that they can put on their flags. Sometimes, the best they can do is the city seal (which includes such notable things as the Court House, the historic Street Lamps, and the "Y" painted on a hill in the town), all on a field of purple, which happens to be the color of the local high school. Sometimes these towns are also in states that have the "field of blue" flag, but at least in this case the flag has a cool motto on it.  Though there can be some cool heraldry in the area, as with the local diocese. (Churches on top of snowy mountains.)  And as for this quote from earlier in the thread: DarkCrawler posted:Haha, I can just imagine some starry-eyed just ordained priest getting sent into some dirt-poor hellhole where half of the congregation only speaks Spanish and the other half is addicted to meth. Though maybe that's exactly what a starry-eyed priest would be looking for, I don't know. Well, when there's churches that need priests all throughout a state that looks like this:  That's what you get.
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Jun 12, 2014 21:22
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I didn't realize Nevada was literally nothing except Las Vegas and Reno
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Jun 12, 2014 21:34
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Grand Fromage posted:Yes, all the city flags/slogans are in English. Otherwise Seoul couldn't have their wonderful and deeply original pun, Soul of Asia! Well, that's actually something. It used to be "Hi Seoul" and "My Seoul, our Seoul" before that. Dynamic Busan, Colorful Daegu, Ace Yongin, Pine City Gangneung, Ole Ole Yang Yang, if someone has one, then everyone else has to have one as well.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I didn't realize Nevada was literally nothing except Las Vegas and Reno 80% of it is owned by the US Government.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I didn't realize Nevada was literally nothing except Las Vegas and Reno Don't forget Carson City!
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Jun 12, 2014 21:43
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In fairness a lot of Western states are like this:    Compare with, say, Michigan: 
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computer parts posted:In fairness a lot of Western states are like this: Can't be any worse than:  Wyoming
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Map request: A while ago I saw a sort of interactive presentation about walls around the world. These were walls that seperated countries, like the wall in Israel/Palestine, USA/Mexico, North and South Korea, along with many lesser known ones like Cyprus and Western Sahara. I think it was made by al-Jazeera, but I can't for the life of me find it. I did find this somewhat older and not nearly as cool looking BBC version though, which unfortunately lacks maps: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/world/2009/walls_around_the_world/default.stm
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I didn't realize Nevada was literally nothing except Las Vegas and Reno Nevada was the least populous state in every census from its admission until 1960, when it managed to at least finish ahead of newly-admitted Alaska. It was hastily shoved into statehood mere days before the 1864 presidential election in the hopes of ensuring Lincoln's reelection (a totally unnecessary measure, but its constitution was at the time one of the longest documents ever sent by telegraph); its population at that time was well short of the 40,000 normally required. Basically, it's not all that long ago that Nevada was literally nothing, full stop.
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Count Roland posted:Map request: Are you thinking about this? http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2013/nov/walls
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Carbon dioxide posted:Not a flag or anything but the official tourist slogan of the Dutch (rather boring) city of Tilburg: Wow now, we totally got poo poo going on. Concerts, broken down old train repair shops being converted, concert halls, some fancy benches, an old palace. We got it all!
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Peanut President posted:From
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I don't see what the problem is? Because it is measuring homogeneity in self-identified racial categories (so for instance if you're in a nation where tribal identification is strong then you'll self-identify with that tribe rather than some blanket-U.S. style label like "caucasian"). So there is a worry that it is capturing a socio-linguistic phenomenon ("how many racial categories are in widespread use") rather than a socio-cultural phenomenon ("how racially homogeneous is this country"). I think it's probably a fine methodology on balance, especially since the alternative (use the standards of one nation's racial categorization scheme for the entire planet) I think has just as many problems (imagine using the R.S.A.'s "black/coloured/white/asian/other" scheme for instance).
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Why not both?
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Fojar38 posted:Can anyone guess this one? That would be the Coat of Arms of the Canadian Space Agency. How about my Province's Flag.  Just an revered Scottish Flag with the Seal in the middle. Make sense considering its name means 'New Scotland' in latin
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Tree Goat posted:Because it is measuring homogeneity in self-identified racial categories (so for instance if you're in a nation where tribal identification is strong then you'll self-identify with that tribe rather than some blanket-U.S. style label like "caucasian"). So there is a worry that it is capturing a socio-linguistic phenomenon ("how many racial categories are in widespread use") rather than a socio-cultural phenomenon ("how racially homogeneous is this country"). There is zero way Belgium or Switzerland is more ethnically diverse than the United States or Great Britain. For Christ's sake, Lithuania and Latvia are supposedly more ethnically diverse than the US. Just because the Swiss consider German Swiss different from French Swiss doesn't mean they're anywhere near as separate as America's different ethnic groups.
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Also, Nova Scotia's flag is boss.
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made of bees posted:Why not both? Couldn't find a map 
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I live in Manchester which has a good coat of arms I think. The yellow lines represnt the Mersey, the Irwell, and the Irk rivers, the boat at the top represents the Manchester Ship Canal, and top of the helmet you have the worker bee (the symbol of manchester) spreading out all over the world.  The greater Manchester flag is fairly good as well, with a castle for each of the ten boroughs.
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Pakled posted:Are you thinking about this? That's it. Thank-you.
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Pook Good Mook posted:For Christ's sake, Lithuania and Latvia are supposedly more ethnically diverse than the US. Russians. e; also that is Estonia and Latvia, Lithuania is depicted as less diverse than USA 
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This map hangs in a classroom at my college: "Territorial and Name Changes in East Asia Since the Korean War as Depicted by a College History/Political Science Department Too Lazy and/or Cheap to Get a New Map." 
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Tree Goat posted:Because it is measuring homogeneity in self-identified racial categories (so for instance if you're in a nation where tribal identification is strong then you'll self-identify with that tribe rather than some blanket-U.S. style label like "caucasian"). So there is a worry that it is capturing a socio-linguistic phenomenon ("how many racial categories are in widespread use") rather than a socio-cultural phenomenon ("how racially homogeneous is this country"). Pook Good Mook posted:There is zero way Belgium or Switzerland is more ethnically diverse than the United States or Great Britain. Pook Good Mook posted:Just because the Swiss consider German Swiss different from French Swiss doesn't mean they're anywhere near as separate as America's different ethnic groups.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I didn't realize Nevada was literally nothing except Las Vegas and Reno There's a reason we picked it as the state to turn into an irradiated hellscape back in the Cold War.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The fact that a This. Identification of that category, either by those holding the identity, or forced upon them by outsiders, is what makes an ethnicity. Ethnicities aren't objective things.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:This. Identification of that category, either by those holding the identity, or forced upon them by outsiders, is what makes an ethnicity. Ethnicities aren't objective things.
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Pook Good Mook posted:There is zero way Belgium or Switzerland is more ethnically diverse than the United States or Great Britain. Well if you find a metric that captures "average difference from the national monoculture" let me know. But in general I don't think there's a metric that is going to satisfy everyones' even cursory definitions of diversity. e.g. is Nigeria diverse because it has something like 200 some-odd major tribal groups, or is it not diverse because over 90% of the populace is historically from a similar geographic area and would be put in the same U.S. census "race" bucket? Is a country with a bunch of unofficial spoken languages more diverse than one with a bunch of official spoken languages, is a country with a lot of immigrants more diverse than one with a lot of different "native" cultures, &c. &c.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The fact that a Yup, I agree. What you are going to capture is a socio-politico-cultural thingy, which I think is important and useful, but it's not super useful for a "which country is the most diverse?" pissing contest.
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