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Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
For shits and giggles I compiled all the Yokozuna with 9-6 records or worse since 1990 (excluding missed 0-0-15 basho, there are a ton of those)

code:
Onokuni	        1990.01	Y2eHD	8-7
Hokutoumi	1990.11	Y1e	9-6
Chiyonofuji	1991.01	Y1e	2-1-12
Chiyonofuji	1991.05	Y2wHD	1-3-11
Asahifuji	1991.07	Y1e	8-7
Hokutoumi	1991.07	Y1w	9-6
Onokuni	        1991.07	Y2eHD	4-5-6
Asahifuji	1991.09	Y1w	2-4-9
Hokutoumi	1991.11	Y1w	4-4-7
Asahifuji	1992.01	Y1w	0-4-11
Hokutoumi	1992.03	Y1e	0-3-12
Akebono	        1995.11	Y1w	7-3-5
Akebono	        1996.01	Y1w	0-3-12
Akebono	        1997.09	Y1w	9-6
Takanohana	1998.01	Y1e	8-5-2
Takanohana	1998.03	Y1w	1-4-10
Wakanohana	1998.11	Y1w	9-6
Takanohana	1999.01	Y1e	8-7
Wakanohana	1999.03	Y1e	5-5-5
Takanohana	1999.03	Y1w	8-3-4
Wakanohana	1999.05	Y1w	3-5-7
Takanohana	1999.07	Y2w	9-6
Akebono	        1999.09	Y1e	2-2-11
Takanohana	1999.09	Y2e	0-3-12
Wakanohana	1999.09	Y2w	7-8
Musashimaru	2000.01	Y1e	2-2-11
Wakanohana	2000.03	Y2w	2-4
Takanohana	2000.07	Y1w	5-3-7
Musashimaru	2001.09	Y1e	9-6
Musashimaru	2002.01	Y1e	1-3-11
Musashimaru	2002.11	Y1e	4-2-9
Takanohana	2003.01	Y1w	4-4-1
Asashoryu	2003.07	Y1e	5-5-5
Musashimaru	2003.07	Y1w	2-4-9
Musashimaru	2003.11	Y1w	3-5
Asashoryu	2004.09	Y1e	9-6
Asashoryu	2006.05	Y1e	1-2-12
Asashoryu	2008.07	Y1e	3-3-9
Asashoryu	2008.09	Y1w	5-5-5
Harumafuji	2012.11	Y1w	9-6
Harumafuji	2013.03	Y1e	9-6
Kakuryu	        2014.05	Y2e	9-6
Here is all Yokozuna who debut at 9-6 or "worse" in history:
code:
Nishinoumi	1890.05	Y1e	3-1-5-1d
Konishiki	1896.05	Y1eYO	8-1-1
Ozutsu	        1901.05	Y1e	6-1-1-1d-1a
Umegatani	1904.01	Y1eYO	7-1-1-1a
Hitachiyama	1904.01	Y1wYO	7-1-2
Otori	        1915.06	Y2wHD	2-2-6
Nishinoumi	1916.05	Y2eHD	8-2
Onishiki	1917.05	Y1w	9-1
Tochigiyama	1918.05	Y2eHD	9-1 Y
Genjiyama	1923.05	Y1e	5-2-4
Tsunenohana	1924.05	Y2eYO	5-2-1-2d-1a
Tamanishiki	1933.01	Y1e	9-1-1d J
Musashiyama	1936.01	Y1w	3-5-3
Minanogawa	1936.05	Y2eYO	6-5
Maedayama	1947.11	Y2wHD	6-5
Chiyonoyama	1951.09	Y2wHD	9-6
Chiyonofuji	1981.09	Y1wYO	1-2-12
Futahaguro	1986.09	Y1w	3-4-8
Onokuni	        1987.11	Y1w	8-7
Harumafuji	2012.11	Y1w	9-6
Kakuryu	        2014.05	Y2e	9-6
Note that previous to 1951? there were less than 15 matches per basho. Also the 1a and 1d are matches that were drawn, usually called that way to save face for the Yokozuna.

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peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I changed my unchangeable flight so we can watch the first day of Nagoya basho! It's also yukata day...

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
So, generally after someone wins the basho, they attend a big press conference the next day. This time Hakuho didn't turn up to it. He also refused any interview after Day 14 Kakuryu

There was a big to do about this as while this presser isn't required, its pretty much expected. People were really on his case about it, including members of the Association and Press.

Now, it turns out his wife had a miscarriage 5 months into a pregnancy, and Hakuho found out after Day 13. :smith:

http://ameblo.jp/hakuho-69/entry-11871576460.html

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

Jesus, that's horrible. Really hits home too since we're almost 5 months pregnant and are supposedly in the free-and-clear zone as far as miscarriages go. That would loving devastate us.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Omg :( :( :( :(

THE Green Ranger
May 9, 2009
Oh wow that is some pretty harsh news. Definitely understandable to skip out on optional interviews after something like that.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
In some more positive news, Shohozan got married to this hottie:



This month was the 'official' wedding though they got secretly married in March because of a pregnancy (this seems to be like 90% of sumo weddings though)

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Nagoya 2014 Banzuke is out:

code:
Hakuho (Y1e 14-1 Y)      Y1   Harumafuji (Y1w 11-4)
Kakuryu (Y2e 9-6)        Y2   
Kisenosato (Oe 13-2 J)   O    Kotoshogiku (Ow 5-10)
Goeido (Se 8-7 S)        S    Tochiozan (Sw 10-5)
Aminishiki (M3e 10-5)    K    Aoiyama (M1e 8-7)
Ikioi (M5w 11-4 K)       M1   Shohozan (M5e 8-7)
Homasho (M7e 9-6)        M2   Yoshikaze (Ke 6-9)
Kaisei (M6e 8-7)         M3   Osunaarashi (M10e 10-5)
Tamawashi (M6w 8-7)      M4   Takekaze (M1w 6-9)
Chiyootori (Kw 5-10)     M5   Endo (M4e 7-8)
Terunofuji (M9e 9-6)     M6   Myogiryu (M8e 8-7)
Tochinowaka (M10w 9-6)   M7   Jokoryu (M12w 9-6)
Chiyotairyu (M2e 4-11)   M8   Toyohibiki (M11e 8-7)
Takarafuji (M2w 4-11)    M9   Kitataiki (M13w 9-6)
Tokushoryu (M7w 6-9)     M10  Toyonoshima (M4w 4-9-2)
Sadanoumi (M17e 10-5 K)  M11  Takayasu (M8w 6-9)
Kyokutenho (M3w 3-12)    M12  Kyokushuho (M15e 9-6)
Okinoumi (M9w 6-9)       M13  Sokokurai (M15w 8-7)
Kagamio (J2w 11-4 D)     M14  Azumaryu (J1e 10-5)
Gagamaru (M14e 7-8)      M15  Tokitenku (M14w 7-8)
Wakanosato (J3w 9-6)     M16  Chiyomaru (M11w 5-10)
Arawashi (M16e 7-8)      M17  
Shamelessly stolen from another place.
Biggest mystery is why Tochinosan wasn't placed above Goeido. It doesn't really matter that much, but its weird.

Promotion watch:
Kisenosato
Apparently only a top quality 15-0 will get Kisenosato considered for promotion to Yokozuna this time. I'm not sure what a weak 15-0 performance would look like.

Goeido
A 13 win season would get Goeido to Ozeki. I haven't seen much pre-basho news so I assume everyone is pretty healthy, so it'll be tough for him to reach this.

Tochinosan
Needs 14 wins somehow.

Ikioi
Has never been above Makuuchi before.

Honestly, the top half feels pretty stacked this time.

Demotion watch:
Kotoshogiku
Will be demoted from Ozeki if he doesn't score 8 or more wins. Its pretty clear he still isn't the same since his injury. A 9-6 (which includes 2 freebies), a 8-7, and the last 5-10 doesn't bode too well. He's been training without his shoulder all taped up though.

Gagamaru
Could seriously be back in Juryo if he puts in another performance like last time.

Juryo:
code:
Sotairyu (J2e 8-7)       J1   Sadanofuji (J5e 9-6)
Masunoyama (M13e 4-11)   J2   Tamaasuka (J4w 8-7)
Takanoiwa (M12e 3-12)    J3   Ichinojo (J10w 11-4 Y)
Shotenro (J8w 9-6)       J4   Homarefuji (J7e 8-7)
Seiro (J12w 11-4 D)      J5   Kotoyuki (J13e 11-4 D)
Amuru (J9e 8-7)          J6   Asasekiryu (J4e 6-9)
Tokushinho (J9w 8-7)     J7   Chiyoo (J6e 7-8)
Asahisho (J3e 5-10)      J8   Tosayutaka (J10e 8-7)
Satoyama (J5w 6-9)       J9   Fujiazuma (J8e 7-8)
Daido (J1w 3-12)         J10  Tenkaiho (J6w 6-9)
Akiseyama (J7w 6-9)      J11  Chiyonokuni (M16w 0-2-13)
Tochinoshin (Ms6w 7-0 Y) J12  Daieisho (Ms2e 6-1)
Wakanoshima (Ms1w 5-2)   J13  Kyokutaisei (Ms3w 5-2)
Kizenryu (Ms4e 5-2)      J14  Tochihiryu (Ms3e 4-3)
Guys to watch for:
Ichinojo
This will be only his 4th season, took the championship last time, looks to move up to the top league. He's big and strong, but many question his agility to really perform with the upper crust.

Tochinoshin
Still on his rehab tour, has won 14 straight against worse opposition. He's an upper-half Makuuchi guy so it'd be nice to see him back soon. Probably won't get out of Juryo unless he goes 15-0 which is unlikely.

Basho starts July 13th.

Diplomat
Dec 14, 2009


Can't wait to see how Osunaarashi does in the upper ranks. He will most likely go make-koshi this basho, but I'm pulling for him.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Diplomat posted:

Can't wait to see how Osunaarashi does in the upper ranks. He will most likely go make-koshi this basho, but I'm pulling for him.

Yeah, was about to bring him up when I noticed this post. That's a hell of a jump for him.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Over the past weekend the yokozuna and ozeki have been visiting other stables for training and warm-ups for the tournament.

Hakuho, Kakuryu, and Kisenosato all look about 100%. Kakuryu has had hardly any downtime since the last tournament, spending a lot of time in the gym for weight and cardio training. Hakuho has refused any interview with the press for 5 days now, almost all his quotes coming from overhearing of fan interaction and discussion among other wrestlers. It seems like there is still some bad blood there about how the media handled his absenc

Harumafuji is training normally but still has his ankle and elbow taped up pretty well. Its hard to see him winning especially if Hakuho has his grip back.

Kotoshogiku news has been very sparse, is apparently absent from any kind of preparation. The general feeling on the chance of getting a winning record to maintain his ozeki rank seems to be low.

In other news, Ichinoji is aiming to beat Endo and Oosunarashi so that he is accepted into the ranks of promising young wrestlers.

Funkysauce
Sep 18, 2005
...and what about the kick in the groin?
After the end of the footy, it'll be nice to start watching another tournament!

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Day 1

Starts off slow but...

Kikkoman
Nov 28, 2002

Posing along since 2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4klTDQKdrI

Day 2's in, Endou is being a big bummer so far, but I'm glad the Chiyos are putting in good work again after last basho's dismal performance!

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

Kikkoman posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4klTDQKdrI

Day 2's in, Endou is being a big bummer so far, but I'm glad the Chiyos are putting in good work again after last basho's dismal performance!

Oh look, Aoiyama trying to be all cute and grappling a yokozuna. :psyduck: Ffs man use those long gelatinous arms!

Terunofuji I believe has wrestled for longer in days 1 and 2 than everyone else combined.

Diplomat
Dec 14, 2009


Terunofuji is looking good, loving it that Osunaarashi and him are doing better than Endo in the new kids club.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
Sokokurai :drat:

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Osunaarashi really made that close. I think as along as he is willing to keep learning he can make kosumbi.

Posture Pal
Nov 22, 2007


Day 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgrB8z_hTIU

Kikkoman
Nov 28, 2002

Posing along since 2005
Oosunaarashi closed fist to Kisenosato's nose was a real bummer. Let's say that it had won him the fight, would he then have gotten disqualified? The only offenses I've seen getting called out were hair pulls...

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
He didn't strike with the fist though, he struck with the forearm... something he did all last season too. I'm going to bet the Sumo Assoc. will have some input later on about this.

Bo-bo-bonus video: The lightest guy in sumo right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6IBF9IpLb8&t=102s

Here's his 2nd bout, the least spirited henka ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbaNYFgSeXc&t=111s

Uncle Jam fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jul 16, 2014

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

Uncle Jam posted:

He didn't strike with the fist though, he struck with the forearm... something he did all last season too. I'm going to bet the Sumo Assoc. will have some input later on about this.

Bo-bo-bonus video: The lightest guy in sumo right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6IBF9IpLb8&t=102s

Here's his 2nd bout, the least spirited henka ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbaNYFgSeXc&t=111s

Let's not forget, either, that Hakuho made that move famous. I can't remember who it was sometime in the last year that he dropped as soon as they collided, but it made Oosunaarashi look like an amateur.

Posture Pal
Nov 22, 2007


Day 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC6p8jGD2Zo

Yoshikaze :black101:

Pvt. Public
Sep 9, 2004

I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.
That old dude in the front row (on the camera's side) was losing his poo poo during the Harumafuji match. The slow-mo shots of him during the replay were great.

Diplomat
Dec 14, 2009


Day 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea6EPKN0XBM

Osunaarashi :frogc00l:

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010


RIP Homasho :smith: You were always one of my favorites.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
A slow start to the day but there are some great bouts in there. Goeido's escape from Tochiozan was great to see, and holy hell Osunaarashi!

In Juryo, Tochinoshin is 5-0 on the return from injury tour. Hopefully a strong result (especially if he wins Juryo) would have him promoted straight back up to Makuuchi without having to spend another basho in the lower leagues. If he could get a third back-to-back zensho it would be silly to keep him out of the top division, surely?

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES
drat. oosunaarashi is not playing around

Just Winging It
Jan 19, 2012

The buck stops at my ass
Day 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyeMRcMKKyQ.

Funkysauce
Sep 18, 2005
...and what about the kick in the groin?
Man oh man, Harumafuji really went to stop Oosunarashi from using that elbow and whoopsie...

He looked really displeased. Not that anyone is happy losing but you could see it on his face and in his actions.

Funkysauce fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jul 18, 2014

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

drat, two months. Homasho ain't a spring chicken, so this may be it for him.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Hakuho's elbow is going straight into Oosunarashi's face, isn't it?

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
...and then an extra shove and a stare down

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES
god drat. has anyone else ever managed 2 kinboshi in his first 2 matches against yokozuna?

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Go on a trip and miss all the interesting stuff!

Tsaedje posted:

A slow start to the day but there are some great bouts in there. Goeido's escape from Tochiozan was great to see, and holy hell Osunaarashi!

In Juryo, Tochinoshin is 5-0 on the return from injury tour. Hopefully a strong result (especially if he wins Juryo) would have him promoted straight back up to Makuuchi without having to spend another basho in the lower leagues. If he could get a third back-to-back zensho it would be silly to keep him out of the top division, surely?

Yeah, about that...
Ichinojo is still 6-0 though in Juryo, in his 4th basho ever.
Dude is ridiculous.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

Fryhtaning posted:

drat, two months. Homasho ain't a spring chicken, so this may be it for him.

Two months is very generous for an injury like that, I doubt he'll be ready for the September basho. Hopefully he's well regarded enough that he can take the time he needs to recover and not be demoted to Juryo in November.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Day 7: http://youtu.be/G_c7FTF2K8o

Toyonoshima :black101:
Aoiyama :ughh:

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Uncle Jam posted:

Go on a trip and miss all the interesting stuff!


Yeah, about that...
Ichinojo is still 6-0 though in Juryo, in his 4th basho ever.
Dude is ridiculous.

OK so no zensho, but he's still in there at 6-1. Ichinojo now at 7-0, insane.

Diplomat
Dec 14, 2009


a false posted:

god drat. has anyone else ever managed 2 kinboshi in his first 2 matches against yokozuna?

A year apart, but the last wrestler to manage two kinboshi in his first two meetings with Yokozuna is Takanofuji in '86 and '87.
First and Second

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Funkysauce
Sep 18, 2005
...and what about the kick in the groin?

anakha posted:

Day 7: http://youtu.be/G_c7FTF2K8o

Toyonoshima :black101:
Aoiyama :ughh:


I was the same way, except for Toyonoshima :stare: because I must have made that same face.

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