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Infinite Karma
Oct 23, 2004
Good as dead





It would be better if it had 5-8 boobs. 2 just isn't natural.

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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Cataphract posted:

So this picture of a "Slaaneshi" Wraithknight appeared a couple days ago on the GW:Bondi (a suburb in Sydney's East) Facebook page.



this kinda poo poo is bad enough when it's being made by internet denizens... but when its being made by a flipping GW store manager and then posted on one of the company's FB pages?

Did you tell this guy how dumb this is? I hope you told this guy how dumb this is.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Lungboy posted:

The older ones are ok.

The old crab claw ones?

Because, I'll say it... Diaz daemonettes are horrible and helped justify gronards putting tits on everything.

Direwolf
Aug 16, 2004
Fwar

Cataphract posted:

So this picture of a "Slaaneshi" Wraithknight appeared a couple days ago on the GW:Bondi (a suburb in Sydney's East) Facebook page.



this kinda poo poo is bad enough when it's being made by internet denizens... but when its being made by a flipping GW store manager and then posted on one of the company's FB pages?

It's not just that it's horrible and uncomfortable and somehow promoted by an actual Games Workshop store - it's a terrible conversion, too, on a model with a ton of potential. The idea of a Chaos-possessed Wraithknight is really fantastic and the model's large enough that you've got a ton of space to implement it, and somehow this guy came out with "Glue wings on back, put sensor arrays coming out rear end, add terrible breasts".

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
I'm more concerned about the greenstuff crotch and the precariously placed hand.

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:
Dat spirit stone cleavage, tho...





It is bizarre to me that people seem to totally forget about gravity when it comes to drawing or modeling breasts. Boobs aren't just cones that stick out horizontally and totally disobey the laws of physics.

AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

LordAba posted:

The old crab claw ones?

Because, I'll say it... Diaz daemonettes are horrible and helped justify gronards putting tits on everything.

Dittos on this. I have never understood why people think any of the old Daemonettes look anything but horrible. I don't like the current ones particularly, but the old ones were pretty atrocious, above and beyond the "hurr tits" angle.

Kaysette posted:

It is bizarre to me that people seem to totally forget about gravity when it comes to drawing or modeling breasts. Boobs aren't just cones that stick out horizontally and totally disobey the laws of physics.

I'm gonna tell you a huge secret about guys and you have to promise not to let anyone else know: most of their expectations of the female body are not grounded in reality in any way, shape, or form. A lot of dudes get their perceptions of what tits "should" look like from some combination of porn, comic books, and magazines, very few of which have any touchstones to what actual women look like.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Whenever I want to remind myself of what a terrible hobby this is I go back to this post on Dakka some guy made telling Victoria Lamb how terrible he thought her female not-Cadians and not-Mordians were.

some shitlord on Dakka posted:

I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
I'd like to believe that dakka post was sarcastic, but I'm afraid I know otherwise. :smith:

radlum
May 13, 2013
Yeah, guy on Dakka, tell that woman how women really look like.

Daedleh
Aug 25, 2008

What shall we do with a catnipped kitty?

NTRabbit posted:

I figured the Deadzone ones were a little closer in size and look than the Warpath ones, but yeah the Warpath ones are far and away the cheapest way to make a horde

I have it on good authority that the marauder commandos will be coming out in a 10 ork box with price competing with GW (not by a huge margin though) and the goblin guntracks will be 3 to a box for around £25.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

LordAba posted:

The old crab claw ones?

Because, I'll say it... Diaz daemonettes are horrible and helped justify gronards putting tits on everything.

The oooold Realm of Chaos ones, no idea if Diaz did them.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010

Cataphract posted:

So this picture of a "Slaaneshi" Wraithknight appeared a couple days ago on the GW:Bondi (a suburb in Sydney's East) Facebook page.



this kinda poo poo is bad enough when it's being made by internet denizens... but when its being made by a flipping GW store manager and then posted on one of the company's FB pages?

It took me a long time to understand the use of the jet intakes.

This is a robot with two giant vent-vaginas between its legs. :stonkhat:

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.
:wtc:

xutech
Mar 4, 2011

EIIST

The funny thing is....The old Slaaneshi gifts gave you one breast, because Slaanesh was a Hermaphrodite.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

That's a motif of indian gods which I actually find pretty cool. Not that the overall design of slaaneshi stuff is good, mind you.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

xutech posted:

The funny thing is....The old Slaaneshi gifts gave you one breast, because Slaanesh was a Hermaphrodite.

Hermaphrodite, at least in common usage, can also mean both breasts plus male genitals, or just both sets of genitals, or a number of other things. Don't ask me how I've come by this knowledge :suicide:

edit: also, and this is into :goonsay: territory at this point, but it always bothered me that Slaanesh (at least in model lines, and to a large extent the written lore as well) seemed to be about getting your crab claws and weird boobs off an assembly line, rather than diverse manifestations of excess and perceived beauty.

JerryLee fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jun 14, 2014

Squifferific
Oct 17, 2004
Proud user of machines that go "Ping!"

JerryLee posted:

Hermaphrodite, at least in common usage, can also mean both breasts plus male genitals, or just both sets of genitals, or a number of other things. Don't ask me how I've come by this knowledge :suicide:

edit: also, and this is into :goonsay: territory at this point, but it always bothered me that Slaanesh (at least in model lines, and to a large extent the written lore as well) seemed to be about getting your crab claws and weird boobs off an assembly line, rather than diverse manifestations of excess and perceived beauty.

Most of these guys can't sculpt realistic breasts. I don't think they're up to showing a 28mm heroin addiction.

Though it would be pretty cool to see a David Bowie 80s hair metal Slaanesh group.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



JerryLee posted:

Ebay. Seriously. Prices will probably be higher than usual on used orks because of the imminent release, but I'd be astonished if you couldn't still find some boyz to start playing with. Or buy Mantic or Kromlech or something (Kromlech may not save you much money but you're at least supporting the little guy). 40k aesthetics are still great and the rules are at least a wash, so don't let the lovely company ruin all your fun.

I play fantasy and have done my fair share of Ebay rescues. I'd just rather have unbuilt models at this point unless its something I know I can break down (like pewter).

AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

JerryLee posted:

Hermaphrodite, at least in common usage, can also mean both breasts plus male genitals, or just both sets of genitals, or a number of other things. Don't ask me how I've come by this knowledge :suicide:

edit: also, and this is into :goonsay: territory at this point, but it always bothered me that Slaanesh (at least in model lines, and to a large extent the written lore as well) seemed to be about getting your crab claws and weird boobs off an assembly line, rather than diverse manifestations of excess and perceived beauty.

Well, as it happens our culture defines masculine as the "default" and feminine as exclusively defined by a relatively-narrow set of features, so if you're crafting an androgynous/hermaphroditic look out of that mindset, you essentially just add some female features and you have, by exclusion, something that is neither male nor female. Good ol' gender norms, gettin' used all over the place!

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!
Oh believe me, the fact that the game universe literally attempts to define deviation from norms on gender presentation as the hallmark of an evil god is its own delightful can of worms :allears:

But this isn't queer theory class and I wouldn't be fully qualified to teach it if it was.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
Compared to the other three gods, whose hallmarks are 'being fat and sick', 'being angry', and 'being smart and planning ahead'.

Not to excuse the Slaaneshi weirdness but it's not like the other ones are particularly noteworthy.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!
Deciding to stop fully exploring the mixture of positive and negative characteristics in each Chaos god is one of the more disappointing choices they ever made, from a creative standpoint.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
Well yeah, there's not really any upside to any of it any more. Khorne used to be the god of stuff like martial pride as well (and I guess presumably still is) but all we really ever see is his units hate space wizards and have Furious Charge and Rage.

Like imagine a Plague Marine showing up and trying to espouse the virtues of converting to Nurgle? How the gently caress do these people get followers?

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
I always enjoyed the idea that Papa Nurgle was actually a loving and caring chaos god.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
He's ostensibly also the god of life and such, but hey, instead we just get Nurgle's Rot and his followers are fat and laugh sometimes.

I mean you can read it like killing people in the Imperium is an act of benevolence because it's kind of poo poo but really all we see is him turning people into zombies and giving them mega-sars. If he is loving and caring, it's certainly not the way we'd imagine it.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
WHF makes it a little murkier with the Elven gods just being aspects of the big four. Khaine is Khorne, Isha is Nurgle, stuff like that.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

SUPER NEAT TOY posted:

He's ostensibly also the god of life and such, but hey, instead we just get Nurgle's Rot and his followers are fat and laugh sometimes.

I mean you can read it like killing people in the Imperium is an act of benevolence because it's kind of poo poo but really all we see is him turning people into zombies and giving them mega-sars. If he is loving and caring, it's certainly not the way we'd imagine it.

Nurgle is a god of decay and stagnation who has a god of life locked in his basement. The positive aspects of Nurgle are more along the lines of acceptance of the inevitable and joy in the face of adversity.

Slaanesh is probably the closest to a traditional god/ess of life, as they're all about reveling in life's excess and the like. Tzeentch is represents hope as well as change but all his change exists to further a greater goal and usually involves mutating the poo poo out of anyone who can't play along. Khorne is of course BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD SKULLS and will always be powerful since everyone follows him to some extent when they fight.

Two Feet From Bread
Apr 20, 2009

I'm. A. Fucking. Nazi.

please punch me in the face
i love it
give it to me daddy
College Slice
:siren:Warham Fire Sale Major Update!:siren:

Every invoice has gone out. If you don't have an invoice then message me ASAP and I will get you a new one.

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HiveCommander
Jun 19, 2012

Cataphract posted:

So this picture of a "Slaaneshi" Wraithknight appeared a couple days ago on the GW:Bondi (a suburb in Sydney's East) Facebook page.



this kinda poo poo is bad enough when it's being made by internet denizens... but when its being made by a flipping GW store manager and then posted on one of the company's FB pages?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh wow.
The best part is how glaringly obvious said GW manager has never seen a pair of breasts in-the-flesh. Ironically enough, if he's the type of creepy nerd to convert tits on a model then he more than likely has a pair of chesticles of his own that he should be able to draw inspiration from.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



AbusePuppy posted:

Well, as it happens our culture defines masculine as the "default" and feminine as exclusively defined by a relatively-narrow set of features, so if you're crafting an androgynous/hermaphroditic look out of that mindset, you essentially just add some female features and you have, by exclusion, something that is neither male nor female. Good ol' gender norms, gettin' used all over the place!


JerryLee posted:

Oh believe me, the fact that the game universe literally attempts to define deviation from norms on gender presentation as the hallmark of an evil god is its own delightful can of worms :allears:

But this isn't queer theory class and I wouldn't be fully qualified to teach it if it was.

No one ever comments on my Slaaneshi cultists lovelingly modeled with Compelete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome or XX Male Syndrome :(

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:

HiveCommander posted:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh wow.
The best part is how glaringly obvious said GW manager has never seen a pair of breasts in-the-flesh. Ironically enough, if he's the type of creepy nerd to convert tits on a model then he more than likely has a pair of chesticles of his own that he should be able to draw inspiration from.

Warhammer 40k 7th Edition - if moobs don't do it, boobs don't either.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender
So I swung by the Greenwich Village GW store today to see about some pick-up games. I was bringing my Night Lords, and although they were running a tournament, the guy running the shop set up an extra 4x4 table for us to use for pick-up games, which was cool. I had 1500 points with me, broken out into a 1k army with an extra 500 point add-on. I was bringing:

1k points
1 chaos lord w/jump pack + lightning claws
1 sorcerer on bike (ML 2)

1 csm squad w/Bolt Pistol + CC, Rhino
1 csm squad w/Lascannon + plasma gun
10 Raptors w/2 meltaguns + champ 2/Lightning claw
9 bikes w/2 meltaguns

500 pt addon
6 chaos terminators w/Reaper
1 Decimator w/Storm Laser
1 Sorcerer (ML 2)
+1 bike

So the first game I played was against a guy, said he couldn't do 1k points, only 1,020. Obviously I hadn't been paying enough attention to recent releases or warning bells would have gone off at that number. Hilariously, he asked me if I was playing a battle forged army and informed me that he didn't want to play against Unbound armies, which made sense when he plopped down three knights as his army :v:. If you take a look at my 1k point list up there, you'll see that my army has the following to deal with knights: 4 meltaguns and a lascannon. So things went about as you'd have expected. Hell, worse even.

I went second, lost every single bike and every single raptor on turn 1 (i.e. all 4 meltaguns), then conceded on my turn. So that was fun.

The second game I played was against Imperial Guard (1,500 points) and was actually much more fun. The guy I played was heavy on mans but light on tanks which made it easy for my bikes and raptors to swoop in from his flank and tear up his army. I ended up winning in Purge the Alien, 4-2 after I annihilated 3 of his squads in close combat with my Raptors and Bikes.

I mean, I'm sure if your army is appropriately kitted out you can deal with Knights fairly easily but that seems difficult to do in a 1k "all comers" list. Anyways, gg random guy at the GW store. It was pretty funny when right after the game the store employee called him a "cheesy gently caress" though.

Unrelated note, during the tournament people kept asking the GW employee about 7th edition rules and his response was "I don't know. Do you have the rulebook?" in a way that implied that they should buy a copy of the rulebook. From the way he said it I couldn't tell if he legitimately didn't know the rules or if he was just being a dick.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Honestly, if people don't actually have the game rulebook at a GW store and ask the GW guy how to play, they should expect to get that response.

That first guy is a douche.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Well hey, in a 1k list apparently you can't actually take 3 knights anyway, so gently caress that guy.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
Yeah, at minimum three Knights is 1110 points.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
The part I don't understand about the Wraithknight most is that somewhere, someone sat down and said "hm what could I do to improve this model ah yes greenstuff tits and a vent vagina. perfect."

I just can't understand that.

Proletariat Beowulf
Jan 7, 2007
I wish meat screamed as I ate it.

raverrn posted:

Do we know if the new SAG changed or not?

The SAG rules didn't come out in the White Dwarf with the model featured. The only rules were for the Mek Gunz. Knowing that it'll be the 4th week that we get the codex is pretty goddamned irritating.

Also, that godawful Ventvag "conversion" makes me feel way, way better about my first attempt at a meganob. :stare:

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

WAR FOOT posted:

The part I don't understand about the Wraithknight most is that somewhere, someone sat down and said "hm what could I do to improve this model ah yes greenstuff tits and a vent vagina. perfect."

I just can't understand that.

Ventgina

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BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
After modelling/converting 20 breachers, I have to say that they are annoying as poo poo to put together. Their shields make it hard to pose them in an elegant way without a lot of fiddling about.

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