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Tarezax: Sep 12, 2009; MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

Sephyr posted:

Oh yeah, I remember those. They were endlessly entertaining. Whomever made them couldn't leave the western welfare-intensive nations too far down the list without risking looking silly ("Wait...if all these countries are totalitarian hellholes, why do they have such high life expectancy and quality of life?"), but they also could not let them climb too far up without sabotaging their own argument.

Last one I saw had Denmark as being 'freer' than the United States. So I guess all those conservative pols raging at Obama 'wanting to turn American into socialist Europe' were just sadly mistaken.

Hell, Brazil was at position 100, way behind the bastion of freedom that is Saudi loving Arabia. I think I laughed for a minute straight seeing that.

...I'm beginning to suspect that one of their criteria was "how white is this country".

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Sephyr: Aug 28, 2012

Tarezax posted:

...I'm beginning to suspect that one of their criteria was "how white is this country".

Given that Hong Kong and Singapore are always at the top spots, I doubt it.

It's mostly an exercise in propping up oligarch-friendly systems and giving them legitimacy while pretending the the results obtained by more social-democracy-minded countries come from adherence to their model.

See, if it's working, it HAS to be their ideology. Nothing else would achieve anything but Ukrainian Famines all around!

# ? Jun 14, 2014 06:26

Grognan: Jan 23, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

SedanChair posted:

Sounds like the time is right for Ancap Burning Man. Just open carry Mosin Nagants and homeopathic contraception booths as far as the eye can see.

God please no, I deal with enough Ancaps at burning man as it is.

# ? Jun 14, 2014 08:00

Dr Christmas: Apr 24, 2010; Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

Being a male citizen of Singapore requires two years of national service. That has to scare away some of the FYGM crowd.

# ? Jun 14, 2014 08:02

Beowulfs_Ghost: Nov 6, 2009

Funny how people will so favor the freedom to make money that they ignore other freedoms.

Speakers' Corner

Also, I hope they enjoy keeping their guns at the shooting range, if the government grants them a permit to own a gun at all.

# ? Jun 14, 2014 08:35

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

So I never knew that the National Enquirer was such a right-wing thing. I mean I obviously know it's a trash tabloid but it seems like in the past year or so it's gotten way more obvious that they're not just trying to sell their poo poo to any idiot they can regardless of political ideology.

Today I was at the grocery store and I saw the most recent issue on the stand and it said something like "Even Michelle can't believe Obama traded 5 terrorists for 1 deserter!" with a picture of an angry Michelle above it, and a picture of Obama on the right that was intended to make him look sinister and evil.

The best/worst/funniest part was that right below the picture of Obama it straight-up says "IMPEACH HIM NOW!"

Maybe my memory is bad or I just don't pay close enough attention to tabloids but I think this is the first time I've ever seen anything like that on a tabloid cover.

# ? Jun 14, 2014 19:21

skaboomizzy: Nov 12, 2003; There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

Elephant Ambush posted:

So I never knew that the National Enquirer was such a right-wing thing. I mean I obviously know it's a trash tabloid but it seems like in the past year or so it's gotten way more obvious that they're not just trying to sell their poo poo to any idiot they can regardless of political ideology.

Today I was at the grocery store and I saw the most recent issue on the stand and it said something like "Even Michelle can't believe Obama traded 5 terrorists for 1 deserter!" with a picture of an angry Michelle above it, and a picture of Obama on the right that was intended to make him look sinister and evil.

The best/worst/funniest part was that right below the picture of Obama it straight-up says "IMPEACH HIM NOW!"

Maybe my memory is bad or I just don't pay close enough attention to tabloids but I think this is the first time I've ever seen anything like that on a tabloid cover.

They talk trash about whoever is in power. I'm pretty sure they had lots of "Bush is drunk/on drugs" covers when he was President.

# ? Jun 14, 2014 19:40

The Rokstar: Aug 19, 2002; by FactsAreUseless

Maybe American tabloids are trying to be more like British tabloids now, who knows.

# ? Jun 14, 2014 22:42

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

skaboomizzy posted:

They talk trash about whoever is in power. I'm pretty sure they had lots of "Bush is drunk/on drugs" covers when he was President.

Yeah I remember them doing that with every president since I've been alive but I've never seen "IMPEACH HIM NOW!" before. I've seen the Fox News style "Impeachment?" with the ever-so-offensive question mark there (or when Clinton was legit impeached), but I've never seen a straight-up demand for it like that.

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Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Who do you think is going to be the most likely to even look at National Enquirer when they're at the grocery store? A FoxNews viewer, or NPR listener?

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Zuhzuhzombie!!: Apr 17, 2008; FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Obvs, since I've never seen a National Enquirer at the Whole Foods.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 02:22

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Sir Tonk posted:

Who do you think is going to be the most likely to even look at National Enquirer when they're at the grocery store? A FoxNews viewer, or NPR listener?

Going off of personal experience, anyone at a checkout who is not currently having their stuff scanned.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 02:50

ToxicSlurpee: Nov 5, 2003; -=SEND HELP=-; Pillbug

skaboomizzy posted:

They talk trash about whoever is in power. I'm pretty sure they had lots of "Bush is drunk/on drugs" covers when he was President.

Yeah the National Enquirer basically just talks poo poo about whoever is prominent that week. Then there are non-stop "hey look this celebrity GOT FAT boy howdy fat people do suck hahahaha LOOK AT HOW FAT THIS CELEBRITY IS!" Really the proper response to the National Enquirer is to either roll your eyes and walk away or pick up a copy for a good laugh at how ridiculous the thing is.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 03:18

skaboomizzy: Nov 12, 2003; There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.

I miss the Weekly World News. You know they would've been the publication to herald Bat Boy's crucial role on Seal Team 6.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 04:11

HackensackBackpack: Aug 20, 2007; Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

skaboomizzy posted:

I miss the Weekly World News. You know they would've been the publication to herald Bat Boy's crucial role on Seal Team 6.

The Weekly World News was the only rag in America that printed the truth.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 06:12

Rhesus Pieces: Jun 27, 2005

Leofish posted:

The Weekly World News was the only rag in America that printed the truth.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 06:16

Berke Negri: Feb 15, 2012; Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao

Elephant Ambush posted:

So I never knew that the National Enquirer was such a right-wing thing. I mean I obviously know it's a trash tabloid but it seems like in the past year or so it's gotten way more obvious that they're not just trying to sell their poo poo to any idiot they can regardless of political ideology.

Today I was at the grocery store and I saw the most recent issue on the stand and it said something like "Even Michelle can't believe Obama traded 5 terrorists for 1 deserter!" with a picture of an angry Michelle above it, and a picture of Obama on the right that was intended to make him look sinister and evil.

The best/worst/funniest part was that right below the picture of Obama it straight-up says "IMPEACH HIM NOW!"

Maybe my memory is bad or I just don't pay close enough attention to tabloids but I think this is the first time I've ever seen anything like that on a tabloid cover.

All tabloids are fascist.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 07:51

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Or at the very least, some kind of bizarre dog-eating-its-own-vomit version of the violence of right-wing futurism art in its most BOLD FONT EXCLAMATION POINT SIMPLE WORDS FOR SIMPLE VIOLENT ACTION stupid.

# ? Jun 15, 2014 09:06

Dr. Faustus: Feb 18, 2001; Grimey Drawer

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

John McCain ‏@SenJohnMcCain 18 Aug 2010
Last American combat troops leave Iraq. I think President George W. Bush deserves some credit for victory.

On Twitter, I have very few followers. I'm not much of a Twitter presence nor am I sure how to use it well. That said, I just tweeted this about ten times. To Rush Limbaugh, McCain, GOP_Senators (not sure if it's a real account, probably not I guess) and every follower and leftist-type I have ended up following over the years.

I also tweeted two more things to McCain (pointless, I know I know):
"I never claimed to be a maverick,"

and

"I never saw a war I didn't like!"

gently caress it. Thanks for that post.

Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jun 16, 2014

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BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Great.

Now we get to hear about "Obama's War" (Iraq) in the same vein as "Obama's Recession" and "Obama's Economy". They're going to hang this failed poo poo on Barrack Obama when, even back when 80% of the country was for this stupid, chickenshit war, all of the smartest people knew it was the dumbest idea ever.

I mean, who could have seen this situation in Iraq coming? Besides anyone paying attention I mean. They're going to (successfully) pin this on Barrack Obama for having the audacity to get the gently caress out of there and no on in the media will call out the right wing hawks who criticize him nor cite any of their quotes from 2002-2008.

As Iraq (predictably) erupts into chaos, it's going to be all about how Obama lost an unwinnable, stupid war waged for no reason at all.

# ? Jun 16, 2014 00:08

Star Man: Jun 1, 2008; There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

BiggerBoat posted:

Great.

Now we get to hear about "Obama's War" (Iraq) in the same vein as "Obama's Recession" and "Obama's Economy". They're going to hang this failed poo poo on Barrack Obama when, even back when 80% of the country was for this stupid, chickenshit war, all of the smartest people knew it was the dumbest idea ever.

I mean, who could have seen this situation in Iraq coming? Besides anyone paying attention I mean. They're going to (successfully) pin this on Barrack Obama for having the audacity to get the gently caress out of there and no on in the media will call out the right wing hawks who criticize him nor cite any of their quotes from 2002-2008.

As Iraq (predictably) erupts into chaos, it's going to be all about how Obama lost an unwinnable, stupid war waged for no reason at all.

When the withdrawal date was first announced by Bush, I knew it was so that in the event a Democrat won the presidency that it was going to make them look bad if anything went wrong.

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Dr. Faustus: Feb 18, 2001; Grimey Drawer

Star Man posted:

if anything went wrong.

"If."

# ? Jun 16, 2014 07:24

Star Man: Jun 1, 2008; There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Dr. Faustus posted:

"If."

I would like to believe that there is a universe where things did go well. This isn't that universe.

# ? Jun 16, 2014 07:51

ToxicSlurpee: Nov 5, 2003; -=SEND HELP=-; Pillbug

Star Man posted:

When the withdrawal date was first announced by Bush, I knew it was so that in the event a Democrat won the presidency that it was going to make them look bad if anything went wrong.

I remember a significant chunk of the right losing their damned minds about Bush announcing a withdrawal date at all. "Well now they're just going to wait until the day after we leave and then enact all their awful plans!" Parts of the right very seriously wanted to be at war for the rest of forever.

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Technical Analysis: Nov 21, 2007; I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.

Of course they do, they hold stock in the military industrial complex. Gotta keep those pockets lined.

# ? Jun 16, 2014 12:58

Doctor Butts: May 21, 2002

BiggerBoat posted:

Great.

Now we get to hear about "Obama's War" (Iraq)

If Iraq was Obama's war then Vietnam was Nixon's war.

# ? Jun 16, 2014 19:05

Berke Negri: Feb 15, 2012; Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao

Considering Nixon sabotaged peace talks and escalated the war into other countries there's probably a good case that by the end it was more his war than LBJ's.

# ? Jun 16, 2014 19:24

kik2dagroin: Mar 23, 2007; Use the anger. Use it.

quote:

RUSH: President Obama on Friday, late Friday afternoon in Canon Ball, North Dakota, the Standing Rock Indian Reservation. This is during the Canon Ball Flag Day celebration.

OBAMA: I know that throughout history the United States often didn't give the nation-to-nation relationship the respect that it deserved. So I promised when I ran to be a president who changed that, a president who honors our sacred trust and who respects your sovereignty and upholds treaty obligations and who works with you in a spirit of true partnership and mutual respect to give our children the future that they deserve.

RUSH: Any opportunity to flip off this country, this guy will take it. There's another example. (translated) "I know that throughout history the United States often didn't give the nation-to-nation relationship the respect that it deserved, but I changed all that. I'm the guy that cares. I'm the first president that gives a rat's rear! I'm the first president to do any kind of reconciliation, because I understand how unfair and discriminatory this country's been."

That's what he's telling them.

What president speaks this way?

And, of course, then he said that he and the lovely and gracious Moochelle identify with this audience.
...
This is freaking Flag Day, and he's out there once again letting them know just how rotten this country's been. Now, I don't want anybody to misunderstand. I do not believe that the United States of America is perfection, and I do not sit here blindly believing that the United States has never, ever made a mistake. That's not the point. The United States of America is the freest land.

It has the most freedom.

It's the land of liberty.

There's not a nation that has ever come anywhere close. We are a nation that realized, at our founding, what some of these very problems were and constitutional provisions were written in so that they would be addressed and corrected. It's a standing matter of fact that certain things had to happen in order for there to be a unified country at the time of the Revolution, and to get a Declaration of Independence and later a Constitution.

That's not the point. The point is focusing constantly on this to the point of making it look like it is still institutional, this racism and bigotry. He and his wife grew up on the outside looking in? Who in the world doesn't think they're on the outside looking in? Everybody grows up thinking that! Some because of their weight, some because of their race, some because of their gender, some because of their own psychological problems, whatever.

Deck stacked against them?

From the president of the United States? What deck is stacked against them? The fact of the matter... Well, it's just the exact opposite. The deck is now reverse stacked in perpetuity. This kind of stuff just really infuriates me that this continues to happen. But it's good in the sense that for those willing to listen, you're being told exactly what I've always tried to get everybody to believe about how this man sees this country.

I'm not making it up. It's undeniable. Okay, let's move forward now to Anaheim, Angel Stadium, for the University of California-Irvine commencement. The world is literally burning with violence all over the globe -- allies are under assault everywhere -- and President Obama is in California playing golf, raising money, and mocking "climate deniers."

OBAMA: (godlike echo) When President Kennedy set us on a course for the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn't be worth it. It was gonna be too expensive, it was gonna be too hard, it would take too long. But nobody ignored the science. I don't remember anybody saying that the moon wasn't there or that it was made of cheese.

AUDIENCE: (one person laughs)

RUSH: In fact, if you go back and if you listen carefully to the tapes of Armstrong getting off the lunar module, there was a school of thought -- even during the mission and leading up to it -- that the moon surface was like quick stand, that it would be impossible to land on it, that it would simply swallow up anything that hit the surface. This was science. This was accepted science. It was a possibility.

It was not obviously etched in stone. You go back and listen to Armstrong describe the surface getting off, they were really, really worried about this because it was accepted in the day that the surface of the moon was like quick stand. That's not the term that was used. I forget what it was, but it was the equivalent. There were people who thought it was "cheese." But this is the kind of thing here he does.

"I don't remember anybody..."

It's another straw-man creation. "I don't remember anybody saying the moon wasn't there." (laughing) Well, you can see it! He's trying to compare that to those of us who say there isn't any global warming. Mr. President, you can't prove it, and none of your scientists can prove it. There is no proof. All you've got is computer models. The only thing saying there is global warming is computer models!

There is no empirical evidence of it. That's why it's all talked about as, "In 10 years, 50 years, a hundred years, it's gonna be really bad!" The problem for these people is that they've been, since 1980, saying 20 years -- and then, since 1990, they've been saying 10 years. The problem is that the warning time has gone by, and there's no warming. There are still icebergs on Lake Superior! So this is the best he's got.

Here's the next bite along these same lines.

OBAMA: Today's Congress, though, is full of folks who stubbornly and automatically reject the scientific evidence about climate change. They will tell you it is a hoax or a fad.

RUSH: It is.

OBAMA: One member of Congress actually says the world is cooling.

RUSH: Well?

OBAMA: There was one member of Congress who mentioned a theory involving dinosaur flatulence, which I won't get into.

RUSH: Well, it had to be a Democrat. It's you people that believe cow flatulence is causing global warming. It is a hoax. There is no evidence. I tell you, the audience he's speaking to, little college graduates and Millennials, they buy it, I'm telling you, folks, hook, line, and sinker. It's easy to understand why, psychologically. They are effectively at the beginning of their lives. They're being told there isn't gonna be a planet waiting for them.

They're being told that their parents and grandparents are destroying the planet or have destroyed the planet and they don't want that to happen. They haven't been properly educated on this so they buy it hook, line, and sinker. It's much easier to be a fatalist, pessimist, than it is to be an optimist. It's just 10, 25,000 times easier. Being an optimist takes a lot of effort. Pessimism is easy. Everybody can do it, and does.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: It was moon dust. I remember what it is now. There were a bunch of -- well, for lack of a better word, people believed that so many collisions over time with the moon had created a layer of moon dust that would essentially be like quick stand, that we would just sink into. A pretty sizable contingent at NASA thought that. They were very, very worried. You could listen to Armstrong describing his first steps on the moon to tell people, "No, no, no, solid as a rock here." He didn't say that, those words. So Obama (imitating Obama), "Moon made of cheese." Well, a lot of people thought it was made of dust and we still sent the astronauts there.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/16/the_president_s_weekend_of_bashing_america
Hey, at least he isn't one of those crazies that thinks the moon landing was a hoax :freep:

Someone on C-SPAN made fun of Limbaugh's books so naturally he spends half the program explaining how liberals are the real racists

quote:

RUSH: My two children's books were dissed on C-SPAN2 last night. Here are the audio sound bites. It's C-SPAN2. BookTV is what it is, and there was a discussion event. This was taped on June the 9th. It's for a book entitled Brazil's Dance With the Devil. It's about the impact of the World Cup on Brazil.

Before that discussion started, the host, a woman named Deborah Menkart who is Teaching for Change's executive director, was speaking about the Busboys and Poets bookstore. Now, the Busboys and Poets bookstore is where this event C-SPAN2 was televising from was held. The Busboys and Poets bookstore.

The store is run by Teaching for Change, which is a nonprofit organization that says it "provides teachers and parents with the tools to transform schools into centers of justice." Transform schools into centers of justice. So here's the setup. A book is being discussed, Brazil's Dance With the Devil. Teaching for Change's executive director Deborah Menkart is speaking about this not-for-profit bookstore that's out trying to turn schools into "centers for justice."

MENKART: Only one out of 10 books being published currently are by or about people of color. These are also not the books that are on the best-seller lists. In fact, one of the books on the best-seller list for children right now is by Rush Limbaugh.

AUDIENCE: (angry grumbling)

MENKART: You will not find that book in our bookstore. It's also getting lots of awards. To flip the trend, flip the script, 90% of the books that we sell at the bookstore -- the independent, progressive, nonprofit bookstore here -- are by or about people of color. Those are the books that we find and we feature. So we prove there is a market for them.

RUSH: All right, now, listen carefully to that. This is a lousy PA system. The point here is really not that my books got dissed. I'm just taking the occasion of that here to make another point. (Well, my books did get dissed.) This woman would be stunned to find out that my books have people of color in them, and she would likewise be shocked and stunned to learn that the "people of color," as she talks of them, in my books are heroes.
...
Because I'm not a person of color, and they only publish books by or about people of color. And I'm telling you, she'd be stunned to learn that there are people of color in the Rush Revere time-travel adventures books and that they are heroes, the people of color in the books, 'cause we do the truth of American history. Next she says... This is where it gets important. "To flip the trend, flip the script, 90% of the books that we sell at the bookstore -- the independent, progressive, nonprofit bookstore here -- are by or about people of color.

Those are the books that we find and we feature. So we prove there is a market for them." Nonprofit bookstore. They are trying. She asserts to prove by only selling... That's all you can buy in this store, and the name of this store... What is it? Busboys and Poets bookstore. The only books you can buy in there are books by or about people of color, and she's trying to say that because we're doing that, we are proving there's a market for them. But then listen to this...

MENKART: We need your help to continue operation of the bookstore. We're not breaking even and we can't take funds from our programs that are parent-organizing or promote people's history. So please make sure that you and your friends purchase your books at our store and on our web store and consider making a donation.

RUSH: So in the next breath she tells us that her nonprofit bookstore doesn't even break even. I wonder why. The first bite she makes this big deal about saying how important it is that their store show that a profit can be made selling books only by people of color. That's right. Those are the books that we find and we feature, so we prove there's a market for them. But then she goes on to say there's not a market for 'em because her nonprofit bookstore isn't making a profit.

Well, I didn't think it was supposed to. She said, "We're not breaking even." Maybe that's their objective. That's right. Nonprofit means they don't dare show a profit. They can't show a profit. Profit's evil. But they're not even breaking even. And so you say who runs a business this way? Nobody with any brains runs a business this way. This is exclusionary, it's racist, it's bigoted, and it's the opposite of everything they claim to be. And it's exactly what they accuse us of being. They claim that they're tolerant. They claim they're open-minded. They claim that they are colorblind and all that. They are the most bigoted, racist people. They exclude here and exclude there and then they don't make any money and they can't figure out why.

My two books are in the top five on the New York Times best-seller list, and here's a woman at a bookstore who wants to sell books, is begging people to buy 'em, proudly says that two of the books in the top five are not even available at her store, and she wants accolades for that. These people are loony. They simply are dumb. They don't have the slightest idea what they're doing. And they happen to be running the country. And I don't just mean in Washington. People like this are in charge of the public school system. People like this are teaching your kids. People like this are running day care. People like this show up at Obama's fundraisers.

Obama didn't sound all that different at times during his fundraising appearances over the weekend and his commencement speech. My books have people of color in them. I'm not a person of color 'cause white's not considered a color. I'm not a person of color but people of color are in my books. They're heroes. They're stars. They are lovable, adorable characters because we deal with the truth of American history in the Adventures of Rush Revere, Time-Travel Adventures with Exceptional Americans. And this woman wants applause and accolades for not selling those books in her store and then complains and whines that they're not even breaking even. She begs people to buy the books they do offer, which apparently, if left alone, do not sell.

But yet here's a woman running this bookstore who thinks, "I'm only putting authors of people of color." And she thinks that that's going to result in miles and miles of lines of people showing up to buy books? Honestly, she does think that. They think that's how the world works. And it is what the Democrat Party is becoming, and it is this demographic, the way the left or a Democrat looks at the country and sees it versus the way a conservative Republican looks and sees it, those two disparate views of the country are getting wider and wider and further and further apart.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I want to tell you a little bit about this woman, Deborah Menkart, the woman that was quoted from the Busboys and Poets bookstore. She's with Teaching for Change. She's executive director. She's very, very proud to say that she's not selling my books in her store 'cause they only sell books by people of color. That, they were going to do to prove that there is a market for them.

And then in the next sound bite she begs people to buy and donate and give them money because they're not even breaking even with their brilliant sales technique. Now, this woman who supports this Teaching for Change group? This organization supports the Zinn Education Project. Now, the Zinn, that's Howard Zinn. Howard Zinn is the author of the primary history tract or textbook in the American public school system.

It's called A People's History of the United States. His book "describes America as a predatory and repressive capitalist state that serves only the interests of wealthy white men who exploit workers, American Indians, slaves, women, blacks, and populists," and she is a subscriber to that belief. This is who C-SPAN2 featured on Sunday night. That is what she believes. By the way, I'm telling you:

When we get to Obama's commencement speech and some of the other things he said out in California over the weekend, you don't find a whole lot of difference in the way he views the country. In fact, he looks at it the same way. I know it's tough to believe. It's hard to imagine that somebody elected president actually sees the US as that corrupt and that guilty, but he does. He once again apologized for the country.

It really is... (sigh) I don't know. It's frustrating that it exists, number one, and it's frustrating that so few people are willing to believe it and accept it. (interruption) What would happen if it was another group be excluded? Okay, look. You know what would happen. Snerdley is asking me... Frankly, you know the answer. He's saying, "What happens if somebody opens a bookstore and says, 'We're only going to publish white, straight writers'?

"Do you think they'd be on C-SPAN?" No. They would have the full force of the federal government at their front door padlocking it and shutting them down, on the basis that they're racists and they're bigots and so forth. So the question is, "Well, how come it's okay for this essential Marxist to open a not-for-profit and proudly say, 'We are only going to publish books written by people of color,'" and she gets applause and so forth?

The answer is, she has every right to because, in the current construct, people of color are perpetual victims. They are a perpetual minority, they are perpetual victims -- and, as such, they shall get never-ending special treatment and sympathy, and that's just the way it is. And if you doubt me, don't. That is the belief system that forms the foundation that permits that kind of bigotry and that kind of racism to exist.

Because they'll tell you that they're not racists; they can't be racist. The Reverend Jackson said, "Look, I can't be racist. I don't have the power to do anything with my racism." So... (interruption) No, it's not "the power to exclude." That's called the power to get even. See, the white publishers and the white authors have had an unfair advantage in their numbers for all these years, ever since the country was founded.

All this is is trying to level the playing field. All this is is trying to make up for 200 years of discrimination. So we need quotas and we need affirmative action and we need never ending redress and so forth, and that's the belief system that permits this. (interruption) Mmm-hmm. (interruption) Right. (sigh) I don't know. I assume if a kid walked into the Poets and Barmaids bookstore... What is the name of the store?

Poets and Busboys. If a kid walked into the Poets and Busboys bookstore and said (child impression), "Hi. I want to buy Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims, do you have it?" they'd say, "No, kid! We only selling books here written by people of color, and that's a white author. That's bad! Get outta here!" I don't know what they would tell him. (interruption) That's why I say, if it's a white kid that shows up...

I guarantee if a white kid walked in and said, "Hi. Is this the Poets and Busboys bookstore?"

"Yes, young man."

"I want buy Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims."

"Sorry, kid. We don't sell trash like that in this bookstore."

That's what they would say, something like, "I'm sorry, we don't sell that." They'd be very snooty. They'd probably get mad at the kid for wanting it and try to give him an on-the-spot lesson of why he shouldn't be interested in bigotry and racism and all that garbage. I guarantee that's what would happen. You know it as well as I do! (interruption) She... (interruption) They full-well understand intellectually what they're doing.

They drat well understand everything they're doing! You're looking at this woman through the prism of a lousy businesswoman. (interruption) Wrong. (interruption) No. You may also be looking at it through the prism of a racist bigot, but that's not how she sees herself. She sees herself as a freedom fighter! She is here representing the oppressed that have been essentially imprisoned by this country since its founding.

She is standing for their empowerment. That's what she thinks she's doing. She... (interruption) It's... (interruption) It is... (interruption) It is a nonprofit. The take-away is they can't... She goes on C-SPAN to complain that they don't have enough business to even break even -- and, of course, that's not her fault. It's not the fault of her business model. It's not the fault of any thing she does. You ask me these questions.

"What happened," Mr. Snerdley asks, "if a baker says, 'You know what? I don't believe in gay marriage, so I'm not gonna bake a cake for your wedding.'" What happened is that that baker ends up in federal court and, for all intents and purposes, gets shut down. The baker has decided to close up shop, or one of them has. You know full well how this works. This is what's happening all across the country.

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RUSH: Here's a question for. Do you think Dr. Benjamin Carson's book is available at the Busboys and Poets bookstore? I'll bet you no way is Dr. Carson's book available in there, even though he's a person of color, because it's not about that. That's just the insulation. That gives them cover for doing Marxism, whatever you want to call it in the bookstore.

They're hiding behind -- well, they're not really hiding behind it because they believe it, but they're hiding behind the unfairness and the injustice of the white oppressors ever since the founding of country and therefore we're entitled to do whatever we want to do, including deny other people freedom. If that's what it takes to bring fairness, then we'll do it. That's their view. In fact, if the only way to make things fair is to deny some people, i.e., the oppressors, fairness and then freedom, then they'll do it.

So Dr. Carson's book, I venture to say, is not there. If they know what's in it. Now, if they just look at the cover and say, "Ooh, a person of color wrote this book, let's put it in there." I doubt that happens. I think they know who he is. And if they do, I guarantee you they don't want his message coming out of the Busboys and Poets bookstore.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/16/rush_revere_books_dissed_on_c_span2

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RUSH: Peter Beinart, Atlantic Monthly, had a post on Thursday, The Atlantic's website: There is an "unprecedented crisis of authority in today�s GOP." Whereas among Democrats, party hierarchies are clear and largely unchallenged. His point is the Democrats have got their act together; the Republicans don't. And he explains why. He argues that it's the Democrats today who are optimists and it's the Republicans who are pessimists. And it's even more specific than that. The Democrats are optimistic about the prospects for what they want America to become.

Now, this ties in with the garbage going on at this bookstore. So what he inadvertently is saying here is that this view that you just heard from Deborah Menkart at the Busboys and Poets bookstore, that's the country that they're trying to create. That is what they want the country to become, people thinking and acting like that. He thinks the Democrats are very optimistic they're gonna be able to bring this off. The Republicans are pessimistic about the prospects for America. And he says this is a huge win for the Democrats, because optimism will always triumph over pessimism, and the Democrats are very happy and very optimistic about where the country's going, and the Republicans are pessimistic about where it's going.

Democrats, to get more specific, he says Democrats looking to the future, "see a growing constituency for tolerance and social justice. When grassroots Republicans do, they see a growing constituency of takers, who want to turn America away from its exceptional nature."
...
Here is an educated -- well, I don't even know what that even is anymore. How educated can you be if you think Elizabeth Warren is compelling. You know, Elizabeth Warren, the fake Native American who said (imitating Warren), "You didn't build that. You didn't make that. You didn't build that. You didn't have a thing to do with it." And Obama picked up the theme (imitating Obama), "Hey, you own a small business? You didn't build that! All the rest of us did that. You didn't do anything. You just get the money, and we're gonna take it from you from now on."

Okay, so Beinart thinks that she's unusually compelling and if Elizabeth Warren runs against Hillary then all bets are off. "But these anti-authoritarian impulses are held in check by a greater optimism about the direction of the country. Over the last few years, a younger, more tolerant, Democratic-leaning generation has helped elect the country�s first African-American president, helped make gay marriage mainstream and may soon help elect America�s first female president. As a result, although Democrats may be upset that Obama can�t pass immigration reform, they�re inclined to believe that because of demographic change, another Democratic president will soon get another chance.

"Republican activists are more pessimistic. Even with a Republican president, they grouse, government kept growing. And unless something drastic changes, it will only get worse. When grassroots Democrats look at the growing percentage of Latinos, African Americans, and young people, they see a growing constituency for tolerance and social justice. When grassroots Republicans do, they see a growing constituency of takers, who want to turn America away from its exceptional nature.

"It�s because Republican activists are more fearful of the future that they demand politicians willing to take extraordinary, Ted Cruz-like measures to reverse history�s course. Conservatives like Cantor, who accommodate themselves --" now, this is the key here. "Conservatives like Cantor, who accommodate themselves to demographic trends by supporting citizenship for some undocumented immigrants, must therefore be replaced with politicians who will stand militantly on principle. The irony is that by preventing the GOP from adjusting to a younger, less white, less Anglo country, grassroots Republicans are hastening the very liberal dominance they fear."

So, can I summarize this for you? What Mr. Beinart here is saying is unless you Republicans become Democrats, you are going to remain miserable losers, and you are going to lose your country unless you change and embrace this demographic change and learn to see a growing constituency for tolerance and social justice, like this bookstore, as the norm and perfectly fine and understandable, even, then you're perpetually going to lose.

So Beinart is trying to tell us what we have to do to win, ladies and gentlemen. If we don't, if we don't accept Democrat policy -- and this is the kind of thinking, by the way, that explains what's happened to the Republican leadership. They have bought this hook, line, and sinker.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/16/peter_beinart_s_advice_for_republicans_become_democrats_or_lose_forever
It really is endlessly amusing how conservatives keep up the delusion they can win with just white males

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RUSH: Let me show you something on the Dittocam. If you're watching the Dittocam at RushLimbaugh.com, let me zoom in a here. Do you see this picture I'm holding up here in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers? Do you see that? That is the official Flag Day photo distributed by the Democrat Party. What do you see in that picture? It's not a flag. It is a cute, adorable, young Hispanic-looking child peering over what looks to be bunting.

But it is not a flag. ...

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/16/the_democrats_flag_day_tweet
Pretty sure there is a flag in there.

# ? Jun 16, 2014 23:15

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

quote:

So, can I summarize this for you? What Mr. Beinart here is saying is unless you Republicans become Democrats, you are going to remain miserable losers, and you are going to lose your country unless you change and embrace this demographic change and learn to see a growing constituency for tolerance and social justice, like this bookstore, as the norm and perfectly fine and understandable, even, then you're perpetually going to lose.

So Beinart is trying to tell us what we have to do to win, ladies and gentlemen. If we don't, if we don't accept Democrat policy -- and this is the kind of thinking, by the way, that explains what's happened to the Republican leadership. They have bought this hook, line, and sinker.

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Demographics and public opinion are now "Democrat policy" to be defeated, instead of "poo poo that's going to happen barring some catastrophic event". Please proceed governors! It's almost as if Rush has seen what his bottom line looks like after 8 years of gloating and getting everything you want, and what it looks like after 8 years of SCARY BLACK MAN WE'RE UNDER SIEGE! and has decided to invest in GOP failure and their bases persecution fetish.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jun 16, 2014

# ? Jun 16, 2014 23:26

Berke Negri: Feb 15, 2012; Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao

I would not trust anyone who took Flag Day seriously or solemnly.

# ? Jun 17, 2014 00:09

Warcabbit: Apr 26, 2008; Wedge Regret

Berke Negri posted:

I would not trust anyone who took Flag Day seriously or solemnly.

With the rarely seen commentary:

quote:

Flag Boy was conceived one day over sixteen years ago when my friend John Quinn and I were wandering through the streets of Philadelphia, horribly hung over as always, in search of grapefruit. We came across a scene of festive commotion: a little brick courtyard filled with schoolchildren all waving little American flags. A man in uniform stood to one side, prepared to address them. John and I approached a woman who seemed to be there in some official capacity, a guide or chaperone. "What's going on?" we asked her. "Something in honor of the flag," she explained. "In honor of the flag?" we asked. She just looked at us. "It's Flag Day," she said.

Flag Day. It was one of those childhood holidays you forget about as an adult, like Arbor Day. And then we realized that not only was it Flag Day but that the little courtyard we were looking at was the courtyard of Betsy Ross's House. We were at the Ground Zero of Flag Day. We were like two clueless tourists stumbling into Times Square at 11:43 on December 31st asking folks, Hey what's the big to-do?

What happened next is kind of hard to explain now that I don't drink so much anymore. Basically, I was possessed by the spirit of Flag Boy. I ran through the streets frantically waving my little flag (the Betsy Ross House lady was handing them out), weeping with laughter and screaming, "It's Flag Day! Happy Flag Day, everybody! Let every day be Flag Day in your hearts! O, happy, happy Flag Daaaaay!" The cartoon appeared shortly thereafter.

For some unknown reason this cartoon took on a life of its own. Everyone loved F[l]ag Boy. He was the Waminals� of his day. I did a few follow-up doodles, like "Flag Boy: The Day After":

IT'S FLAG DAY!

# ? Jun 17, 2014 00:17

Hazo: Dec 30, 2004; SCIENCE

I bet Rush is right you guys. Surely a drug-addicted college dropout is way more knowledgeable about climate science than the publishing Ph.Ds on the IPCC.

# ? Jun 17, 2014 01:33

Paint Crop Pro: Mar 22, 2007; Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.

Hazo posted:

I bet Rush is right you guys. Surely a drug-addicted college dropout is way more knowledgeable about climate science than the publishing Ph.Ds on the IPCC.

"College only serves to brain wash our children into being liberals." A thing someone in my family said, and the honest belief of a alarming number of people.

# ? Jun 17, 2014 01:39

Hazo: Dec 30, 2004; SCIENCE

If you were brainwashed into being a liberal because of college then obviously you didn't have strong enough conviction in your beliefs in the first place :smugdog:

# ? Jun 17, 2014 01:55

The Rokstar: Aug 19, 2002; by FactsAreUseless

quote:

It's another straw-man creation. "I don't remember anybody saying the moon wasn't there." (laughing) Well, you can see it! He's trying to compare that to those of us who say there isn't a god. Mr. President, you can't prove it, and none of your theologians can prove it. There is no proof. All you've got is books. The only thing saying there is a god are books!

Needless to say, I love this "you can't prove global warming is real, so it doesn't exist!" argument.

# ? Jun 17, 2014 04:08

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Books are an extension of the mind and the imagination, which is how God 'exists' - since there is no way of concretely proving or disproving the universe has an engineer

Rush Limbaugh asks a metaphysical question 'how do you know something is real, man, y'know?' (you don't) - when the real question is one of the precautionary principle - 'how do you acknowledge and react to a threat?'

Climate change is one threat, terrorism is another - it is interesting how much more willing we are to accept the reality of the threat that can be answered with more guns and panicked, enraptured audiences.

# ? Jun 17, 2014 04:22

Dr.Zeppelin: Dec 5, 2003

All properly-designed scientific experiments have a control group. Without an identical copy of Earth where an industrial society never develops, you have no idea if the current climate trajectory is different from a control group, therefore

# ? Jun 17, 2014 04:34

RadicalR: Jan 20, 2008; "Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."

The Rokstar posted:

Needless to say, I love this "you can't prove global warming is real, so it doesn't exist!" argument.

I counter with "you can't prove god is real, so it doesn't exist!" Watch their head explode from rage.

# ? Jun 17, 2014 04:37

Prism: Dec 22, 2007; yospos

RadicalR posted:

I counter with "you can't prove god is real, so it doesn't exist!" Watch their head explode from rage.

They've got it covered with "The proof is the Bible."

# ? Jun 17, 2014 04:41

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 05:46

RadicalR: Jan 20, 2008; "Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
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the symbol of America."

Prism posted:

They've got it covered with "The proof is the Bible."

That doesn't prove God exist. It was written by man, egro God was made up.

# ? Jun 17, 2014 04:46

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