peanut- posted:

Why do the people that write these articles always think eliminating the offside rule would increase the amount of attacking play?

stickyfngrdboy posted:

people who'd never watched a game before yesterday were doing exactly this in the opening MDT.

DickEmery posted:

More importantly, why do they keep thinking "Americans not liking soccer" is a bug not a feature.

Skinty McEdger posted:

Because Ice Hockey keeps loving around with their offside rules to promote attacking play. And obviously the two are kind of the same.

JFairfax posted:

So similar that for a few years EA used the same engine for its Fifa and NHL games iirc.

Skinty McEdger posted:

That has to be a loving parody right?

Yes lets change the entire rules of the game because Americans don't like them.

Monday Bandele posted:

Why America Doesn’t Like Soccer And How That Can Be Changed

http://time.com/2864483/world-cup-2014-soccer-brazil-america/


This is the year 2014

Skinty McEdger posted:

That has to be a loving parody right?

Yes lets change the entire rules of the game because Americans don't like them.

jyrka posted:

What if the corners are tied? Then what? Who has the most throw-ins?

Fag Boy Jim posted:

One of the weirdest things that American pundits do is claim that draws are a bad thing, like, if two teams play equally well, it's a bad thing for them to draw, and one of them should be forced to be declared a winner.

DickEmery posted:

More importantly, why do they keep thinking "Americans not liking soccer" is a bug not a feature.

I Feast On Dogshit posted:

Do japan not do a thing like penalty kicks after a draw in league games? I remember buying a pirate copy of winning eleven/pro evo back in the day and it had The Japanese league in it and all draws went to a shootout.

gfanikf posted:

What World Cup still holds the highest live attendance records?

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I have to wonder... if the refs are bribed, wouldn't they be bribed in favor of the US more than anyone? I mean we've got a huge economy with a massive potential to expand soccer... you'd think FIFA would do their best to help the US win. It's not like soccer can go much more popular in Brazil or Spain than it is already.

Chris de Sperg posted:

area man in denial over death of tiki-taka

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There is, on the face of things, obvious merit to this view – and yet it is a merit that is almost too obvious. It is very easy to critique a side and write their epitaph after a 5-1 defeat or a 7-0 defeat; this does not require insight, only an ability to look at a scoreline and jump on a strident bandwagon.

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Yet tiki-taka made football beautiful, and for that reason I feel that, if it is to wither and wane and be buried under Dutch, Chilean, and Brazilian avalanches, it is important to recognise what it really is, not to defame a ‘straw man’ tiki-taka.

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I have not focused on Holland much in this post. This is because their excellencies were numerous and obvious, and therefore require nothing but brief praise and the comment that I look forward to seeing more of them, should they maintain their freedom and form. Yet they are a common side: a side that has excellent attacking players and wants to play with pace and directness. They are generic in their excellence, predictable in their talents; they are enjoyable because their style is recognisable and capricious.

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I have not focused on Holland much in this post. This is because their excellencies were numerous and obvious, and therefore require nothing but brief praise and the comment that I look forward to seeing more of them, should they maintain their freedom and form. Yet they are a common side: a side that has excellent attacking players and wants to play with pace and directness. They are generic in their excellence, predictable in their talents; they are enjoyable because their style is recognisable and capricious.

Smirr posted:

jesus

Chris de Sperg posted:

area man in denial over death of tiki-taka

Puseklepp posted:

Tiki-taka works, so when it doesn't, it isn't tiki-taka.

Bogan Krkic posted:

TRP is literally the best source for tactical analysis and news on the internet.

Chris de Sperg posted:

area man in denial over death of tiki-taka

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Soccer is like watching a bunch of Sisyphuses competing against each other by trying to roll the same rock up a hill—without using their hands, of course. And there’s a big guy on top of the hill just waiting to kick the rock all the way back to the bottom. Let’s remember that in the original myth, Sisyphus was being punished; there was no break in the action, and no flopping either.

To the American mind, the only time games are supposed to be tragic are when we lose in a sport we love in the international arena. A real sport, like hockey. Otherwise, Americans should be able to make progress in any game, overcoming obstacles, changing rules, buying the best players. That has not happened in soccer because the design of that game has old-world values written all over it: Individuals should not try to stand out from the crowds, one group should not have too many advantages over another, drawing attention to yourself is distasteful, and so on. The tools of your trade shouldn’t be too splashy, either—why use your hands when your feet will do?

Although Americans love games that highlight individual performances—and the more the better—soccer seems designed to minimize their frequency. How many times during a baseball, (real) football or basketball game does someone do something that is utterly transcendent in its expression of skill and strength? Many times. Such moments of beauty are the main reason we find sports so attractive.

In soccer, however, these performances are more like an accident than a natural part of the so-called beautiful game. Fans keep their expectations so low that they are actually surprised, really surprised, when someone kicks the ball in an inhumanly perfect manner. And if the perfect kick does not go in the goal, well, that’s not surprising at all. Soccer thus appeals to the pessimist, the person who wagers that it is better to avoid disappointment than to demand too much joy. In other words, foreigners.

Voluspa posted:

Monday Bandele posted:

Why America Doesn’t Like Soccer And How That Can Be Changed

http://time.com/2864483/world-cup-2014-soccer-brazil-america/

"Mandelbaum also offers a proposal to make the game more popular in the United States. He’d alter the rules to favor the offense, eliminating the offside rule, which forbids players from passing to teammates standing behind enemy lines. Alternatively, he’d use the number of corner kicks awarded to each team as a way to break ties, a method that would reward aggressive play. “For this to happen in the US, however, the rest of the world would have to do the same, which it won’t,” he says.

The close-mindedness of the sport’s establishment shouldn’t stand in the way of a good idea. And so, in that spirit, here’s a modest proposal: soccer should take its cue from boxing and install three field-side judges to secretly score every 15-minute interval. Goals would be like knock-outs. Points would only come into play in the case of a tie."

This is the year 2014

trem_two posted:

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I love watching the World Cup. Such an amazing tournament that brings about all of the pride anyone could muster for their own country. It's so coo to see how sports bring people(s) together and the World Cup does that better than just about any other sporting tournament.
HOWEVER, there is a thing about soccer that I will never understand. How could any professional athlete still carry an ounce of pride after falling down and (at least appear to) writhe in excruciating pain after getting "bumped" at most? I'll openly admit, I only watch soccer during the World Cup, so maybe there is something that I don't understand since I don't watch it very much; but I do love to watch just about every sport- including soccer. I really don't understand some of these guys. the expressions on their faces, rolling around on the ground, the grabbing of their feet, ankles, legs, etc, the pleading with the refs...you would think that these guys just got shot.
While watching the Stanley Cup Playoffs, I saw guys literally fight each other, slam each other into the boards, play through ridiculous injuries, etc. It makes watching soccer look like I'm watching a soap opera, or it just reminds me of that punk kid who would call every foul during a pickup basketball game.
These soccer players are incredible athletes. Their skill is breathtaking and the drama (no pun intended) the World Cup creates just might be superior to any other tournament. But I'm sorry I'm not sorry that I think these guys go from megastars to whiny little punks when they roll around on the ground after getting breathed on. Go USA.

I Feast On Dogshit posted: