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My heir imprissioned me, how is that possible? I'm above him in the hierachy!
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Welp, just lost my finished game and EU4 game in a formatting mishap and my only cloud saves are from about 12 years into my CK2 game. That's about 240 hours lost there. I guess that gives me a good reason to buy the rest of the DLC and play it all over again "the correct way"
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Jun 15, 2014 19:29
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Korwin posted:My heir imprissioned me, how is that possible? Doesn't mean squat if you committed a crime. I once got locked up twice by my son for loving his wife.
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Jun 15, 2014 19:32
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Quick question. I lucked into the kingdom of Italy as the king of Germany. I now have the option to form the Holy Roman Empire but the tooltip says that the kingdom of Italy would be forfeit. Does that simply mean that I form the HRE with my German holdings and Italy goes to someone else? I'm playing ironman so I can't really try anything out.
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Jun 15, 2014 20:24
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MrBling posted:Quick question. I lucked into the kingdom of Italy as the king of Germany. I now have the option to form the Holy Roman Empire but the tooltip says that the kingdom of Italy would be forfeit. Does that simply mean that I form the HRE with my German holdings and Italy goes to someone else? I'm not 100% sure so you shouldn't base your decision on what I say, but I believe it means that the Kingdom of Italy title will be destroyed, while all Italian lands that you or your vassals currently hold will be part of your new empire. But they will continue to be de jure part of the Empire of Italia.
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Jun 15, 2014 20:40
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Jedit posted:Doesn't mean squat if you committed a crime. I once got locked up twice by my son for loving his wife. Man, I have had babies smothered in their crib so I could inherit a single county on multiple occasions, but loving my son's wife is a line I refuse to cross. Which is unfortunate since that seems to be the only kind of person my characters are ever interested in.
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Jun 15, 2014 20:43
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Torrannor posted:I'm not 100% sure so you shouldn't base your decision on what I say, but I believe it means that the Kingdom of Italy title will be destroyed, while all Italian lands that you or your vassals currently hold will be part of your new empire. But they will continue to be de jure part of the Empire of Italia. I went ahead and clicked the button and that is exactly what happens. I guess the kingdom is destroyed so you can't just hand it off and basically remove all the Italian duke electors by putting them under a vassal king. The tooltip could be a bit more clear about what happens though.
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Jun 15, 2014 20:56
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Man, the Karling challenge is hilarious. 100 years in I'm 3x a duke, my wife is Queen of France, son's gonna inherit it all, and totally by accident I put kinsmen on the thrones of Galicia, Portgual, and England 
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Jun 15, 2014 21:58
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MrBling posted:I went ahead and clicked the button and that is exactly what happens. That wouldn't work in any case for several reasons. 1. The Kingdom of Italy is not de jure part of the HRE, so none of your Italian dukes are actually electors. 2. De jure dukes can always vote in elective empires, even if they have a king as a liege. I actually think it's designed to simulate the historical HRE and the HRE that exists after the 1066 start. In none of the post-Old Gods starts does the Kingdom of Italy exist, and it did not exist in the historical HRE as well. That's probably the reason why it gets destroyed by the special decision to create the HRE.
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Jun 15, 2014 22:36
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MrBling posted:I went ahead and clicked the button and that is exactly what happens. Every kingdom title you hold that isn't Germany will get destroyed. If you've never destroyed a title I can see why it could be confusing, but it's pretty clear if you have.
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Jun 15, 2014 22:38
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SeaTard posted:Every kingdom title you hold that isn't Germany will get destroyed. If you've never destroyed a title I can see why it could be confusing, but it's pretty clear if you have. I've destroyed plenty of titles, but it literally says "The Kingdom of Italy will be forfeit." If it had just said the title would be destroyed then I wouldn't have been in doubt.
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Jun 15, 2014 22:52
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 Starting from 1205 as the Duke of Toulouse (later King of Navarre), I noticed a little into the game that the King of Castille had a weak claim on England. That was a little interesting, but that sort of thing happens a fair amount and I didn't much mind it afterwards. Later, though, as I was slowly nibbling away at Angevin France, England's lands suddenly turned dark green and 'IRELAND' replaced England over that domain. Turns out Castille successfully pressed its claim on England, but the King of England had created the Kingdom of Ireland before Castille beat them, so now there's an awkward English realm controlled by Englishmen but rules barely any English provinces at all.
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Jun 16, 2014 00:16
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Any word on when the "ironman saving every 6 months"-patch is coming out? I can't force myself to play my India game until then, as the monthly saving slows my game to a crawl.
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Jun 16, 2014 00:19
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Broken Cog posted:Any word on when the "ironman saving every 6 months"-patch is coming out? I can't force myself to play my India game until then, as the monthly saving slows my game to a crawl. It's out already, the latest beta patch.
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Jun 16, 2014 00:21
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 Just got a little more work to go before I reach the full borders. Started the game as Wessex in 867 was originally just planning to unite the isles and maybe retake northern Germany Denmark but then Byzantium collapsed and the Abbasids took Anatolia and Greece triggering crusades, after a disastrous first crusade for Jerusalem one was called for Greece and I thought if I was rebuilding Byzantium I way as go the whole way.
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Jun 16, 2014 00:58
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I was slowly chewing up the Karling blob when out of nowhere, Lotharangia decides to become my vassal. These screenshots are about a week apart. The duke of Brittany took a county so I went to see what it was, and as I was panning back the game kinda stalled for a second and then half my screen was purple.  
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Jun 16, 2014 06:20
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Did you have any karling vassals? Multiple times I have seen random Karling counts of nowheresvile suddenly become kings, and so bring their kingdom into my empire. Not due to anything I have planned either, just suddenly I find I have another vassal king, and then find out he is the grandson of that random Karling I landed ages ago.
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Jun 16, 2014 07:17
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GSD posted:Did you have any karling vassals? Multiple times I have seen random Karling counts of nowheresvile suddenly become kings, and so bring their kingdom into my empire. Not due to anything I have planned either, just suddenly I find I have another vassal king, and then find out he is the grandson of that random Karling I landed ages ago. I have a few, but it's not like the king of Lotharangia died. Maybe one of his close relatives inherited something and he became my vassal from that?
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Jun 16, 2014 07:33
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Captain Novolin posted:I have a few, but it's not like the king of Lotharangia died. Maybe one of his close relatives inherited something and he became my vassal from that? Or a faction pressed your vassal's claim on the kingdom.
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Jun 16, 2014 08:21
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In my Germany/HRE I'm down to West Francia and Bavaria being ruled by Karlings. Lothatingia and Aquitaine are some random dynasties and Burgundy is a branch of my dynasty.
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Jun 16, 2014 09:35
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Can you declare a prepared invasion but be unable to launch it? I dont have the option to declare war on a guy I've been preparing to invade for years now.
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Jun 16, 2014 10:26
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Are your troops in your holdings? Do you have you levies raised? Do you have a truce? Are you targeting the top level liege?
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Jun 16, 2014 10:34
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Rumda posted:Are your troops in your holdings? Everything no except for that last one. Why would it let you declare something you cant do? Blurgh
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Jun 16, 2014 10:40
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SynthOrange posted:Everything no except for that last one. Have you tried the top liege to see if you can attack? The event troops should be based on him if you can.
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Jun 16, 2014 11:01
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Parallax Scroll posted:Do I lose any of the cool Norse abilities if I reform the faith? Like can I still raid people and send boats down rivers, and use conquest casus belli? The main things about Vikings stick around. You can still raid and pillage, take concubines, and conquer anything on the shore you drat well please. Things next to you, as well. As was said boats in rivers is going to crap out over time but there comes a point where that stops mattering. Your retinue bonus also gets cut in half from 30% extra to 15% extra. You also lose defensive attrition but that you'll lose when you're fighting people with Military Organization level 4 or higher anyway. However, the stuff you gain is actually incredible. You can actually have Proselytize be more than a 1% chance, which lets you convert poo poo properly. Norse territories (new Norse, old Norse is still balls easy to convert) are harder to convert after reformation, which is actually a massive deal. Reforming is absolutely worth it and should be one of your earliest goals if you're playing Norse. Your short reign penalty isn't so crushingly awful, you can shift away from Gavelkind, and you can raise crown authority beyond Low. The few things that you do lose aren't a huge deal, especially compared to all the poo poo you gain.
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Jun 16, 2014 11:08
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Rumda posted:Have you tried the top liege to see if you can attack? The event troops should be based on him if you can. Situation is, I'm a norse count, the guy I declared an invasion on is my norse catholic king. I cant seem to declare anywhere even though I prepared.
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Jun 16, 2014 11:12
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If you win the Karling Challenge does it become West Francia again?
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Jun 16, 2014 12:18
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Na its a one time thing if it ever passes put of Karling hands even for a day it switches same with Germany.
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Jun 16, 2014 12:29
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That's a shame. I guess there's always title customization.
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Jun 16, 2014 12:45
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Torrannor posted:As the poster above me said, you need to be Christian or Jewish to do anything with the kingdom of Jerusalem. And I'm not sure but I think you also cannot usurp it as well. Well, that's too bad. At least I did had a son, after 6 girls. And then another, born genius. It is possible to create a second empire title when you already got one? Im emperor of Abyssinia, but I also own like 90% de-jure provinces of the Arabian Empire, I wonder if I can form it too.
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Jun 16, 2014 13:02
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Yes. You can create as many empire titles as you can fulfill the requirements for.
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Jun 16, 2014 13:17
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I was raiding Italy when a larger army the country I was raiding decided to join in. We ended up destroying several cities utterly. 
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Jun 16, 2014 13:28
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Shiny777 posted:Yes. You can create as many empire titles as you can fulfill the requirements for. Although if you have vassal kings in there they will start desiring your additional empires.
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Jun 16, 2014 13:46
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Man, I have had babies smothered in their crib so I could inherit a single county on multiple occasions, but loving my son's wife is a line I refuse to cross. Yeh I've noticed my king keeps getting the event with the sons wives, is there a higher chance of it happening with them or something? It's a little irritating when you have about 10 sons and get spammed with the event.
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Jun 16, 2014 14:40
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Is there a more efficient way of taking over kingdoms than county by county (or if you're lucky with claim fabrication, duchy by duchy?) combined with the 10 year truces it makes it really slow. I've tried making with the stabby up the line of sucession once marrying my heir off to my target kingdom, but I think I'm doing it wrong. Another strange thing that happened is that whilst I was putting down a revolt in the Duchy of Barcelona (I'm playing as Kingdom of Navarra), Granada and Barcelona both popped independent. Next ruler was able to re-vassellize Barcelona, but Granada remains stubbornly independent. It's converted to Catholicism too, so I can't just Holy war it back into submission, which is how I got it in the first place.
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Jun 16, 2014 15:00
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Thrasophius posted:Yeh I've noticed my king keeps getting the event with the sons wives, is there a higher chance of it happening with them or something? It's a little irritating when you have about 10 sons and get spammed with the event. I think it's just selected from all the young women in your court. If you haven't been inviting any, the only people there are going to be the wives of your unlanded sons and courtiers. edit: Also I imagine it's weighted for attraction and if you're marrying your kids to high-stats characters with similar stats to you and your heir, that might have something to do with it.
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Jun 16, 2014 15:14
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Plus there is the whole thing with the opinion bonus with marriage ties and possible marriage wish fulfillment.
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Jun 16, 2014 15:34
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 I've never seen the Mongols expand all the way into Egypt before and frankly, it scares me. I'm even Aquitaine, I'm not close by, but goddamn I do not want to be anywhere east of the Adriatic or Baltic right now.
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Jun 16, 2014 16:04
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Question: how do I turn off notifications that someone has chosen a candidate in Elective succession? Whenever I load up my save, every vassal with a vote applies their vote again and it's causing major drag and game problems.
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I captured 3 Norse holy sites, but my moral authority is only 33 and I guess it needs to be 50 to reform the faith. Catholics have the other 2 sites on lockdown, so I guess I should just do a whole bunch of county conquests, and raid churches when I need money?
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