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Panzeh posted:I really don't want every game to be a family management sim. I hate that crap. Yeah, well I want Paradox to accurately simulate what would happen if Hitler died of syphilis in 1937 and his successor was possessed by the devil so the Nazi blitzkrieg was led by three witches. So I hope that's included in HOI4.
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vyelkin posted:Yeah, well I want Paradox to accurately simulate what would happen if Hitler died of syphilis in 1937 and his successor was possessed by the devil so the Nazi blitzkrieg was led by three witches. So I hope that's included in HOI4. As a casual gamer, given how the lacklustre the Sims 4 looks I'm quite looking forward to Hearts of Iron 4 becoming a "Suburban life in Nazi Germany" simulator.
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Gort posted:Q1 2015. Was three ever patched into adequacy?
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GrossMurpel posted:Yeah, because making tech dependent on how well your ruler personally understands the field is realistic and not an abstraction. Alchenar posted:It represents how good your ruler is at appointing administrators etc. Panzeh posted:I really don't want every game to be a family management sim. I hate that crap.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:While I'm in favor of expanding the dynastic side of things in EU4, I really don't think it should be much more than a bare bones version of the CK2 system. Basically, just the parts which are directly relevant to EU4 gameplay. That would be traits which influenced how the AI behaves, royal marriages, succession laws, and lines of succession, not whether your king is banging his daughter or poo poo like that. AI traits exist (each AI country switches between Militaristic, Diplomatic, Administrative and Colonial traits on new ruler). Royal marriages, there's obviously the diplo action but that's pretty abstract; I assume you're talking about an actual relationship between existing characters, even if they only exist as a name somewhere in a family tree.
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YF-23 posted:AI traits exist (each AI country switches between Militaristic, Diplomatic, Administrative and Colonial traits on new ruler). YF-23 posted:Royal marriages, there's obviously the diplo action but that's pretty abstract; I assume you're talking about an actual relationship between existing characters, even if they only exist as a name somewhere in a family tree. pre:Ruler ADM DIP MIL Traits Dynasty Titles Claims Married Charles IV 3 4 1 Insane Valois FRA, BRI Yes Heirs Louis 3 4 6 Ambitious Valois NAP(3) Yes Henry 6 4 2 Pious Valois NAP(4) No Charles 1 2 1 Slothful Valois NAP(5) Yes Ferdinand III 5 4 3 Ambitious Habsburg HAB BAV(2) Yes Ferdinand 3 3 2 Craven Habsburg HAB(1),BAV(3) No Children outside line of succession Anne 3 2 3 Pious Valois No Joan 5 1 3 Insane Valois Yes *e: Also succession laws. e2: Actually, the 'children outside line of succession' should probably just be included wherever they fit in on the heir list, except with their names colored differently so you can easily see they're not actually in line. Hovering over would then show why, in this case because French succession laws don't allow female rulers. It would be pretty useful if the current line of succession pointed to you becoming the lesser partner in a union you really didn't want, showing you whether a change in the law would help you out. There should probably also be an age column somewhere, come to think of it. A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jun 15, 2014 |
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Panzeh posted:I really don't want every game to be a family management sim. I hate that crap. I don't even do family management in CK2 anymore, I just have my family marry whoever and just have fun declaring war on everyone - foreigners and vassals alike.  Because, if you think about it, that's what CK2 is: it's a PDS grand strategy game where you have "foreign nations" both outside and inside your borders.
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I think one thing I'd like in one of the future games (maybe Vic 3?) is being able to play as something other than a ruling party perhaps. Organise peaceful rallies and protests or do guerilla activities. Would be pretty nice.
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Last Emperor posted:I think one thing I'd like in one of the future games (maybe Vic 3?) is being able to play as something other than a ruling party perhaps. I don't feel like there'd really be enough to do as an opposition party, unless you can still control some part of government or you have other resources, like family holdings in The Republic.
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Last Emperor posted:I think one thing I'd like in one of the future games (maybe Vic 3?) is being able to play as something other than a ruling party perhaps. Victoria 3: The Republic DLC A democracy simulator could be pretty cool, but it probably wouldn't fit as part of any of the "main" games. Though you could probably have something like a more complex internal college of cardinals/HRE, a mix between Victoria and CK2 where you rule your country/realm but you're not alone in it.
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I think that a political simulator where you play as a political party (as opposed to a dynasty or a nation) would be a really interesting and fun game-- set it in the late Victorian through Cold War era. Playing as a party within a government would be a little like playing as a vassal of a country in CK2, in that there'd be a lot of internal politics and campaigning and such to manage, while the ruling party handles the foreign relations and international politics. They could combine the pop system, political campaign system, and various events to create an election game where you try to raise awareness and build support among various pops in order to get your party elected. They could even have various personalities (something like combining the ministers of state and generals in HOI3 with some of the personality traits and character-related events of CK2) that could have effects on your party's success, internal politics and so forth. That would pretty much be my perfect fantasy PDS game.
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You all need to play some Democracy 3. It even has pops!
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Cantorsdust posted:You all need to play some Democracy 3. It even has pops! I've watched a bunch of videos of that, but I don't think it's got enough replayability value once you figure out what to do. Seems too easy. Plus it's not a map game!
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Democracy 3 could really benefit from a Shadow President-esque world map so you have something to spend that well-cultivated military on.
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DrSunshine posted:I've watched a bunch of videos of that, but I don't think it's got enough replayability value once you figure out what to do. Seems too easy. Plus it's not a map game! This is definitely the case. I played it about three times. On the third time I stopped loving up and was able to create a utopia. I haven't played since.
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Democracy 3 is more of an elaborate puzzle game than political simulator.
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Arbite posted:Was three ever patched into adequacy? I guess. It's a much better game now but I still don't enjoy playing it at all.
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Thinking about buying Vicky 2. Are AHD and HoD both worth getting as well?
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If you're not going to get the expansions don't get Vicky2.
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Rumda posted:Yeah well your in the minority there. All good things are good only in moderation. Even if you really like family management stuff, you probably wouldn't actually like it in every game ever even if you think you would.
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The more I'm reading people's wishes for that perfect Paradox game, the more I realize that EU: Rome already had most of those mechanics. Sadly, EU: Rome had only like 5 "playable" nations, and was never really expanded on by Paradox. So much potential...  Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Thinking about buying Vicky 2. Are AHD and HoD both worth getting as well? Definitely. Don't play Vicky 2 without the expansions.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:All good things are good only in moderation. Even if you really like family management stuff, you probably wouldn't actually like it in every game ever even if you think you would. 'At home with the Hitlers. In Russia'
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Alchenar posted:'At home with the Hitlers. In Russia' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9jJx0NSjw
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Paradox, when HOI4 comes out, for the first DLC, I would like to request a CK2->HOI4 converter! 
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So, um. Somebody on 4chan had a copy of the EvW beta (alpha??), .zipped it up and uploaded it. It's been leaked there and already the link's gone on to Reddit. Apparently, the leak's legit, or at least no one's seriously complaining about viruses.
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Ofaloaf posted:So, um. Somebody on 4chan had a copy of the EvW beta (alpha??), .zipped it up and uploaded it. It's been leaked there and already the link's gone on to Reddit. Apparently, the leak's legit, or at least no one's seriously complaining about viruses. links plz
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podcat posted:links plz 4chan's active paradox/grand strategy community is probably in some megathread in the /vg/ (videogame general threads) board. Look for /gsg/ in there.
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http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/70952752/gsg-grand-strategy-general They are pretty angry about someone sharing it with Reddit, haha
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podcat posted:links plz The pertinent download link's already been taken down, but the thread in question is here.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Royal affairs I would be willing to play an EU4 with a streamlined royal affairs ledger. It's a particularly relevant thing for the Ottomans, where you can have decisions relating to what happens to other male members of the dynasty and have to trade off between an increased chance of an interregnum (due to killing the other males) vs. having a ledger full of potential heirs who are all terrible (due to choosing to lock them away instead). Also it would be nice to be able to say "My 18 year old son/daughter is going to be the next king, not my 62 year old brother/sister".
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DrSunshine posted:I think that a political simulator where you play as a political party (as opposed to a dynasty or a nation) would be a really interesting and fun game-- set it in the late Victorian through Cold War era. Playing as a party within a government would be a little like playing as a vassal of a country in CK2, in that there'd be a lot of internal politics and campaigning and such to manage, while the ruling party handles the foreign relations and international politics. They could combine the pop system, political campaign system, and various events to create an election game where you try to raise awareness and build support among various pops in order to get your party elected. They could even have various personalities (something like combining the ministers of state and generals in HOI3 with some of the personality traits and character-related events of CK2) that could have effects on your party's success, internal politics and so forth. wukkar fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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DrSunshine posted:Paradox, when HOI4 comes out, for the first DLC, I would like to request a CK2->HOI4 converter! Come on, global thermonuclear war would be HOI4->CK2.
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Man, the actual EvW game might be hosed beyond all recovery, but from these screens the interface is gorgeous. Like, damning with faint praise, but I was expecting it to look like dogshit, same as MM.
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Dibujante posted:I would be willing to play an EU4 with a streamlined royal affairs ledger. It's a particularly relevant thing for the Ottomans, where you can have decisions relating to what happens to other male members of the dynasty and have to trade off between an increased chance of an interregnum (due to killing the other males) vs. having a ledger full of potential heirs who are all terrible (due to choosing to lock them away instead). Dibujante posted:Also it would be nice to be able to say "My 18 year old son/daughter is going to be the next king, not my 62 year old brother/sister".
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Enjoy posted:I wish HoI3's ship building was this cool Now it gives me a desire for a cold war navy field game.
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Panzeh posted:Now it gives me a desire for a cold war navy field game. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/04/wot-i-think-command-modern-air-naval-operations/ Ask and ye shall receive.
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uPen posted:http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/04/wot-i-think-command-modern-air-naval-operations/ That's.. not really the same thing.
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Is there a way to mod the view distance of units in Vic2? I'd like to be able to zoom out all the way and still see my units. Not being able to do this really hamstrings my war-fighting ability in large theaters. e: I tried modding counter_distance in settings.txt, and all that does is make it so that I can see province names at max zoom. I'd like to see unit flags at max zoom, if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Nut to Butt fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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