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Cataphract posted:youtube.com/axisofawesome Holy gently caress, I never knew this band included goons. If you're around in London with nowt to do on a Thurs, I'll give you a game down in Clapham. We've got a pretty chill club there, full of non-insane people who remember to wash. We play in a room above a pub. And there's a happy hour. BeigeJacket fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Scowny posted:If it helps, I know the staff of the GW in Leeds really well? Also The Wardrobe is an incredible venue, I am definitely gonna get back for that. I'm up for Leeds poo poo, defo.
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I love AoA - if you end up coming to London give us a heads up. I can travel for a goon meet.
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"Oh cool, SRM's painting Space Hulk. I can't wait what to see what he does with the great figures in this modern, beautiful game!" Nah, not that one. "Oh, maybe he's converting his own and using Zone Mortalis stuff and cool kitbashes?"  Nah, that actually sounds kind of difficult. "Uhhh...."  What how would I even Now this, this is more what we're talking about :  Yeah, more like that. My dad got that box when it first came out and I wasn't even born yet. I put the Genestealers and Terminators together (badly) when I was maybe 9 years old, and used them in my weird homebrew games from then on. Well, after painting so many retro Ultramarines I decided it'd be nice to have a little palette cleanser. I realized I hadn't painted xenos in years, and I had these models lying around, so why not? For starters, I painted the first 10 Genestealers:        I didn't take the same time or care I'd put into my Ultramarines, and it was a really wash+drybrush heavy scheme. It was kind of refreshing to crank out 10 models in just a few painting sessions instead of it being a weeks long affair! Now, some of you might be wondering: What about the Terminators? Well, the Terminators in the actual box set got cannibalized into various armies, including some quite old Crimson Fists:  I don't have the heart to strip those guys really, and I've actually got some quite nice 2nd edition Imperial/Crimson Fists arms I'll be using on 2nd ed Terminators instead:  I think I'll be painting up a few of these boys next (I can't quit you, Space Marines) before moving on to round 2 of the Genestealers. I might have some other things in mind to bring the game up to date (Broodlord, Librarian, etc) but we'll get to that when we get to that... Also, for anyone wondering, here's where the bases are from: http://www.champindustries.net/orders_b.html I think I saw them (or something REALLY close to them) at Historicon years and years ago, and it was pretty cool to find out they were plastic and only 30 cents a pop!
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Is there any sensible way to have a free-for-all with three players? It seems like we would be better off having 2-on-1 games with each side having the same total points to work with. My brother and his friend want to play some 40k, but I'm the one who knows the rules and has all the actual 40k stuff, so my options are awkward 3 player games or they play while I act as ref.
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"Unit Composition: 1 Gorkanaught" 37 points seems so specific that it has to be a typo. Loving the reference to the Orks Vehicle Equipment list though. Indicates there's probably an infantry list allowing us to kit nobs out like the 3rd ed codex.
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Dear traveler from the future how long were you going to keep this wisdom from me? Please post the rest of the codex TIA. Kind of a meh vehicle, but at least the points price for killkannons and rokkits was cut in half (rightfully so). Is the codex really coming out on the 21st? I don't see it up for preorder.
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I love that Mek. Totally putting him on a 40mm base and calling him a Big Mek. He looks too big for that infantry base anyway.
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Daedleh posted:"Unit Composition: 1 Gorkanaught" It's probably 37 to accommodate some gear options that are 1/2/3 points that way you come out with a nice even number in the end. Also every "new" codex has had equipment lists both for vehicles and infantry. That's how they handle army wide equipment instead of listing every gear option on every unit entry over and over again. ThNextGreenLantern posted:Is there any sensible way to have a free-for-all with three players? It seems like we would be better off having 2-on-1 games with each side having the same total points to work with. My brother and his friend want to play some 40k, but I'm the one who knows the rules and has all the actual 40k stuff, so my options are awkward 3 player games or they play while I act as ref. The best way to do it is 2v1, 2k pts vs. 1k/1k or whatever points variation you like. You also have to split the 2 player teams FOC though, or double up the 2k player's (if you have enough models to double FOC). Otherwise the single man will end up at a pretty big disadvantage when the other side rolls out like 12 Troops or 6 Heavy options. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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I have to say I am loving that point costs seem to be less crazy for upgrades. I could really see throwing extra rokkits into more units now if they are only 5pts each.
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poo poo, those look like good models. I am going to pick a few up I guess. Not that I need any more Meks or Docs.
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67 point killcannon. That is a lot of dakka for a very low price.
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Slimnoid posted:67 point killcannon. That is a lot of dakka for a very low price. Yeah, I don't even mind that it will fall apart to a stiff breeze. That being said it may have a hard time competing in the heavy slot with battlewagons and mek guns (and maybe flash gitz).
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CyberLord XP posted:Yeah, I don't even mind that it will fall apart to a stiff breeze. That being said it may have a hard time competing in the heavy slot with battlewagons and mek guns (and maybe flash gitz). Yeah, but Unbound is kind of a cool thing for that. Orky Seej Kompany with tons of mek guns and gunwagons  Also that Looted Wagon looks like it's just a Battlewagon turret sprue, Leman Russ sprue, and some sundry other bitz.
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Hmm... 37 is certainly an unusual points cost with GW's usual love of multiples of 5. I'm wondering if 'Ardcase will add to the armour values, 11 front seems low for a looted Russ. I am ensaddened at the loss of the Boom Gun, though maybe this means Killcannons are getting buffed. I also note that Killcannon doesn't make it smaller. 10pt Deffrolla is nice but makes me worried about how much it's been nerfed. Also, does 'White Dwarf Exclusive' mean that it's not actually going to be in the Codex? I don't recall that stamp being on the other previews. For the other minis, I like the Mek, but am undecided on the Dok. I like some of the ideas but find the overall look disjointed and messy in a not-good way. Also GW needs telling that sword legs are never a good idea.
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Zark the Damned posted:Also, does 'White Dwarf Exclusive' mean that it's not actually going to be in the Codex? Welcome to 2e.
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I don't know... consider the following weird point costs: Fire Dragon: 22 points Warp Spider: 19 points Dire Avenger: 13 points Dark Reaper: 37 points Guardian: 9 points Jetbike: 17 points Really it's a goddamn miracle that anyone can make an even Eldar army with all these prime numbers.
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In all my years of playing I could never figure out if there is a reference table or some equation they use to figure out point costs from equipment, skills, stats, etc or if they just randomly choose numbers that sound good.
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Strangely for I think the last ten years or so they've pretty much stayed pretty close to 3rd edition point cost. I think in 2nd edition Space Marines were 20 points. I call it the Space Marine Equivalent scale and I'm not joking when I say they just use loving made up numbers nothing has any rhyme or reason with them when it comesto point values.
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Slimnoid posted:67 point killcannon. That is a lot of dakka for a very low price. On the other hand, having a 1/6 chance of having to go Flat Out instead of shooting sounds just awful, so I guess it remains to be seen how useful it'll be.
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:Is there any sensible way to have a free-for-all with three players? It seems like we would be better off having 2-on-1 games with each side having the same total points to work with. My brother and his friend want to play some 40k, but I'm the one who knows the rules and has all the actual 40k stuff, so my options are awkward 3 player games or they play while I act as ref. Acebuckeye13 posted:On the other hand, having a 1/6 chance of having to go Flat Out instead of shooting sounds just awful, so I guess it remains to be seen how useful it'll be. 
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Acebuckeye13 posted:On the other hand, having a 1/6 chance of having to go Flat Out instead of shooting sounds just awful, so I guess it remains to be seen how useful it'll be. Plus, 210 points for 3 S7 AP3 Ordnance Large Blasts (if Killkannons are the same) isn't that bad, even with the short range.
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:Is there any sensible way to have a free-for-all with three players? It seems like we would be better off having 2-on-1 games with each side having the same total points to work with. My brother and his friend want to play some 40k, but I'm the one who knows the rules and has all the actual 40k stuff, so my options are awkward 3 player games or they play while I act as ref. I like free-for all games, and you can do them with 3 people, but you'll need to balance the terrain and objectives so people don't get hosed too badly. My group of friends has tried a few variations:
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FFA is kinda dumb in almost every game but if you implement a sort of "Only score from the person on your left" rule it works out a lot better, means you've got one person to attack and one to defend from and it discourages the terrible politics of FFA a little.
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HOPE SHINES GREEN, MOTHERFUCKERS. I am pumped as poo poo for this release now. I have an old Tamiya tank model that's going to see some action soon. e: Not really digging the design or the  on the Painboy, though.
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Holy poo poo, that painboy is like 2nd edition ugly.
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Karandras posted:FFA is kinda dumb in almost every game but if you implement a sort of "Only score from the person on your left" rule it works out a lot better, means you've got one person to attack and one to defend from and it discourages the terrible politics of FFA a little. I like FFA, its a fun change of pace. If your friends can't handle poo poo talking I can see it being a bad game mode (or just get better friends) I might try your idea though, sounds a bit neat
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Ignite Memories posted:Holy poo poo, that painboy is like 2nd edition ugly. I REALLY hope they don't start trying for "retro" sculpting styles. I mean, stuff like SRM's marines are cool, no doubt, but poo poo like the limited edition marine captain and other throwback style models look awful.
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In that case, I'll probably just ref the two of them while they learn, which will give all of us more experience with the rules. Later on, we'll try some FFA's when we just feel like rolling dice and playing "Space Cowboys & Indians". "You're dead!" "Nuh-uh, my foot's behind this tree, so I get a cover save!" "Well--- My gun ignores cover now." Edit: Oh, THAT'S how GW writes the rules.
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Uh, did Looted Wagons get Deffrollas before? 'Cause that seems hilariously painful with how cheap the drat things are. Space harvesters running little mans over erryday.
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BULBASAUR posted:I like FFA, its a fun change of pace. If your friends can't handle poo poo talking I can see it being a bad game mode (or just get better friends) It's not so much poo poo talking but that half the time it ends up being 2v1 and someone sits out. Having to defend your objective from one guy whilst attacking the other stops a single dude getting man-piled by both players early, though good terrain and deployment can also help it. Multiplayer games are good but true FFA often makes it way more the meta-game of getting your opponent to attack your other opponent rather than, you know, the game of 40k. If you constantly play tall-poppy though and focus on whoever is winning and change when they stop winning it can be good though.
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Drake_263 posted:Uh, did Looted Wagons get Deffrollas before? 'Cause that seems hilariously painful with how cheap the drat things are. Space harvesters running little mans over erryday. That's not a bad conversion idea:  I made my dad buy me so many John Deere toys when he would take me with him to get parts when I was little 
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Deffrollas? Go old skool: e: I kinda prefer the less cartoony look myself:  BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Reynold posted:I REALLY hope they don't start trying for "retro" sculpting styles. I mean, stuff like SRM's marines are cool, no doubt, but poo poo like the limited edition marine captain and other throwback style models look awful.   That being said, I don't really see what's retro about the painboy aside from maybe the size of his klaw. It's probably a much more 3-dimensional model than we're imagining, since we haven't seen more pictures of it yet. Once there's a 360 view and all the other GW website bits and bobs it'll probably look a bit more fleshed out.
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 GW Price whinge Ork Mek - US$21 - AU$23 Ork Painboy - US$26 - US$28 Codex: Orks - US$49.50 - AU$83 WTF?
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That is so painfully arbitrary I don't even know where to begin. I mean good lord, a US Codex is worth 2 Painboyz but an Australian Codex is worth 3? 
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ghetto wormhole posted:That's not a bad conversion idea: My younger brother plays Orks and he converted his own Deffrolla - basically he took a bunch of sprue bits the right length and made them into two interlocking cylinders, covered them in spare choppas and other spiky bitz, attached the whole thing to the front of his Battlewagon with a couple spare killa kan arm bitz and painted the whole thing a blood-spackled blue. Looks like his Mek saw a big harvester and got AN IDEA. Unrelated, I'm finally heading out to pick up the Knight I ordered in. I'm planning on painting it the most  color scheme ever and want to try going with white marble with silver or gold accents over a gray superstructure - basically like the GW 'White Warden' freeblade with a little more focus color on it. Anybody wouldn't happen to have a good tutorial handy on how to paint big flat areas marble without wanting to actually blow my brains all over the ceiling?
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