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Skwirl posted:I don't get the point, maybe it's just that I prefer Joker as a psychotic, murderous thief, like he does insane things but has an end game in mind. And Hawley is a henchwoman. I don't like Joker or Harley as serial killer. How is the Joker not a serial killer? Content secret avengers 4 
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His intention isn't to kill people. I mean, he does, obviously, but it's not his core motivation. His usual intent is to be funny, to mock the world, ruin batman, etc., but he's not a mindless killer like Zzass or Carnage. The Joker is most interesting and most effective when you don't know if he's about to pants someone or shoot their pet. It's the tense uncertainty and sudden resolution that makes him funny and fascinating. I direct you to this classic scene from BTAS:Mad Love, where he's handed a golden opportunity to kill Batman, but doesn't care because it isn't funny.
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Squidster posted:I direct you to this classic scene from BTAS:Mad Love, where he's handed a golden opportunity to kill Batman, but doesn't care because it isn't funny. Now you're just being dense on purpose. He's angry because it wasn't him doing it and can't stand to have Harley show any independent thought. That's the entire point of the story; He's an abusive monster. And in the clip you linked, he still tries to kill Batman even though it's not funny.
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Of course he's a serial killer. He kills people, serially. Just because there's more to the character than Zsasz doesn't mean he isn't also an insane, sociopathic murderer.
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I'm certain there's a scene in a comic where someone like Dr Doom unmasks a hero and has the exact same reaction. Hal Jordan sucked at the whole secret identity business:  Secret Origins Vol 2 #36
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WickedHate posted:
Don't forget that at the end of her last quirky humour series she blinds a little girl for profit.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I'm certain there's a scene in a comic where someone like Dr Doom unmasks a hero and has the exact same reaction. That's not very convincing Hal.
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I don't know why they insist on the new She-Hulk comic having horrible art (I'd almost gotten used to the  look on her), but this isn't bad: (the other guy is Shocker without his mask) Source: She-Hulk #5 BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I don't know why they insist on the new She-Hulk comic having horrible art (I'd almost gotten used to the I'm afraid it's Thors all the way down.
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1% of Americans are male gingers. Narrow down by height/weight and with Lex's resources, he wouldn't be too hard to find. (I thought it was a funny moment when I first saw it.)
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Technically the Joker is a mass murderer. He's about as far away from following a pattern as you can get, so he's not a serial killer.
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If you go by what's on Wikipedia, between serial killing, mass murder, and spree killing, serial killer probably fits Joker the best (multiple killings over time in various locations with a "cooling off" period). This is all very hilarious.
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He's both. A serial killer is just someone who kills repeatedly over a given amount of time - a pattern of killing method, or killing punctuality is not required - just repetition of the crime over a length of time. A mass murderer is someone who kills in large amounts at a single time. Skwirl's original point about not liking Joker "as a serial killer" is that anytime you are writing a story and Joker's end-goal is "killed a bunch of people!" then you should be using a character like Calendar Man or Zsasz (please choose Calendar Man) instead.
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Just because you're the genetically seeded sole-survivor of the genocide of your race that you perpetrated, seeking to unite the Universe and the Negative Zone causing the extinction of all life other than yourself, and are currently busy doling out PTSD to a blind lady and a child doesn't mean you ignore a ringing phone. FF#253
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Ghostlight posted:Just because you're the genetically seeded sole-survivor of the genocide of your race that you perpetrated, seeking to unite the Universe and the Negative Zone causing the extinction of all life other than yourself, and are currently busy doling out PTSD to a blind lady and a child doesn't mean you ignore a ringing phone.
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Pilchenstein posted:did the FF spend all their early years fighting muppets or what?   FF#264
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That's the one where the bad guy is Neal Adams.
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God drat it Marvel 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I don't know why they insist on the new She-Hulk comic having horrible art (I'd almost gotten used to the I like it. You take the thing where all vampires are draculas and you extend it to other groups. 
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Curse all these damnable Iron Men.
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MA Pym is no slouch, either. Marvel Adventures Avengers #26 Also from the same issue, obligatory: 
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Yinlock posted:MA Pym is no slouch, either. God dammit guys. Our order is pretty light this week so I might have to pick some of this stuff up. Is it in trades?
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Senor Candle posted:God dammit guys. Our order is pretty light this week so I might have to pick some of this stuff up. Is it in trades?
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Let's check in with Newspaper Spider-Man: an earthquake has smashed a hole in the state prison's wall and a prison-break is in progress. Doc Ock has managed to get his tentacles back in the confusion, but rather than running he stops the prisoners from escaping and saves the warden's life.   Surely the warden isn't stupid enough to fall for such a simple ruse!   Spider-man, talk some sense into him!    God drat it, Peter. 
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Why did they keep drawing JJJ without his mustache there. (I know its not JJJ)
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Does anyone know the particular crime that landed Ock in prison in the first place?
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Lobok posted:Does anyone know the particular crime that landed Ock in prison in the first place?
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Lobok posted:Does anyone know the particular crime that landed Ock in prison in the first place? Impersonating Roy Orbison.
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Mantis is introduced to the Avengers, and promptly kisses everyone (from Avengers #114, Englehart and Bob Brown): I love everyone's reactions to being kissed: Tony loves it so much he smiles through his armor, Thor loves it, Cap suspects some sort of makeout-based attack, and the Vision is about to cry.
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I get the sense that Cap is jealous she kissed Thor on the lips but gave him a smooch on his chin. Also, it will never stop being funny how wildly different it is to get into the Avengers based on who you are. Mantis: Just ask, or be the main squeeze to an existing member. Hulk: Be the Hulk. Spider-Man: Take down the Hulk. Alone. Lobok fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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laz0rbeak posted:Mantis is introduced to the Avengers, and promptly kisses everyone (from Avengers #114, Englehart and Bob Brown): A similar page, wherein Satana meets the Thunderbolts.  Thunderbolts #155, maybe?
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Lobok posted:I get the sense that Cap is jealous she kissed Thor on the lips but gave him a smooch on his chin. Even worse, this issue sees Swordsman re-join the team, even though Cap pointed out one page earlier that he originally only joined the team as part of a scheme by the Mandarin. But once an Avenger, always an Avenger! Cap gets out-voted and Swordsman replaces Hawkeye. I assume the same rule is what let Wonder Man join the team when he comes back from the dead in the 70's. laz0rbeak fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Everyone but Cap read that What-If where Swordsman got pasted by Galactus in a show of Avengers Solidarity.
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I'm glad the colorists still don't talk to each other!
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prefect posted:A similar page, wherein Satana meets the Thunderbolts. Gotta love those strategically placed speech bubbles in the Moonstone panel.
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laz0rbeak posted:Mantis is introduced to the Avengers, and promptly kisses everyone (from Avengers #114, Englehart and Bob Brown): The placement of the kiss on Thor makes him look like a drag queen... In a good way, though. 
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And let's remember that, at this juncture, Mantis was a recently-ex-prostitute.
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Lurdiak posted:Gotta love those strategically placed speech bubbles in the Moonstone panel. I dig the grizzled as hell Cain. That is the face of a man who has seen some poo poo and then rammed it through a wall with said face.
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Protocol 5 posted:I dig the grizzled as hell Cain. That is the face of a man who has seen some poo poo and then rammed it through a wall with said face. What exactly IS Cain doing now that he's not the Juggernaut?
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