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The Spain team was greeted by 2 fans upon their arrival in Rio.
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tetsman posted:The Spain team was greeted by 2 fans upon their arrival in Rio. Could have been worse, there could have been 5.
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Real Madrid has dragged both Iberian teams down. Spain, however, will move on from the group stage unlike England or Portugal.
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Jun 17, 2014 16:54
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Spain are gonna lose to Chile, draw to Australia and be escorted by the police when they arrive at the airport back home
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Monday Bandele posted:the biggest fraud in world football? 
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Xavi is "retiring" by going to play in Qatar. I think Spain are playing clean now and we are seeing their real level. Which is bad. They will have all their wins stripped when this tainted era gets revealed in full. We are in the siege of Byzantium moment now.
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Jun 18, 2014 00:23
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Hopefully we'll be watching the final nail on Spain's coffin when Chile win tomorrow.
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Jun 18, 2014 01:38
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Cannavaro went to the desert to get rich during a disastrous World Cup campaign, let's hope this pushes Spain over the edge as well.
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Is the hate Spain thing because they've won the last three big tournaments or is it because the way they play the beautiful game? Was it OK to like Spain before they won everything, when they were to (lovable?) losers. Also is there any substance to the rumors of them all being doped up or is it just bitter talk.
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When Fuentes got raided 100 or so bags of blood were siezed that the Spanish government have refused to be released for testing almost certainly because it'll show a whole load of Spanish athletes were doping http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/apr/30/doping-doctor-eufemiano-fuentes-sentence-shock
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Emetic Hustler posted:Is the hate Spain thing because they've won the last three big tournaments or is it because the way they play the beautiful game? Was it OK to like Spain before they won everything, when they were to (lovable?) losers. Also is there any substance to the rumors of them all being doped up or is it just bitter talk. For the supposed 'best team in the world' they played dire, attritional boring football, combined with over the top histrionics. There's also proof they were on a poo poo ton of PED's locked in a court battle as the Spanish government tries to get the evidence destroyed while WADA want to get their hands on it and basically wipe any spanish athletes victories for the last 8-10 years.
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Jun 18, 2014 09:39
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Eufemiano Fuentes posted:"If I would talk, the Spanish football team would be stripped of the 2010 World Cup" http://www.sudinfo.be/sports/foot_international/2010-12-13/fuentes-si-je-parle-on-retire-la-coupe-du-monde-a-l-espagne-831186.shtml
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Emetic Hustler posted:Is the hate Spain thing because they've won the last three big tournaments or is it because the way they play the beautiful game? Was it OK to like Spain before they won everything, when they were to (lovable?) losers. Also is there any substance to the rumors of them all being doped up or is it just bitter talk. It started about a year before the world cup in 2010. Barcelona (who i mention because del bosque just does whatever they do) under Frank Rijkaard and Spain were playing incredibly exciting direct football. There was passing and traingles galore but it always involved trying to get the ball through the defense to score. Pep takes over barca and they seemingly get even better. There is more passing and possesion but still plenty of attacking with eto, Messi, and henry combining for 100 goals. Then pep's style creeps in further and rather than the brilliant football for what is overwhelmingly the worlds most talented squad we get an ultradefensive pile of shite that somehow gets excused because they have loads of possession. A team with Xavi, Alonso, Villa, Torres (while he was still good), iniesta etc start passing the ball back to the keeper rather then try and score a goal and spend the entirety of the world cup grinding out 1-0 wins. It's an appalling waste of talent and is basically another form of mourinho's 'anti-football'. You can see the pattern at bayern now. A superb counter attacking team gets even better once pep injects a bit more passing and possession but is now slowly regressing to kicking it aimlessly to each other instead of trying to score. In terms of the doping there was a huge bust called Operation Puerto. Only the names of cyclists have been released despite the doctor involved saying he was so busy with la liga he had to turn down a serie A team and cyclists stating they saw footballers and tennis players at the clinic. The spanish courts have constantly tried to suppress anything else getting out most recently this involved a judge ordering the destruction of the blood bags found at Dr Fuentes's office. Spain is this decades East Germany. Loving Africa Chaps fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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Spain will be a national embarrassment and almost all of sports results for the last 10 years will be severely shaken up. At this point the Spanish government know WADA will get their hands on the samples, so they're trying to stall for as much time as they can in the hopes that the samples degrade enough to be in admissible.
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I admit that I cheered for the Spanish side during 2010, because it was nice to have Spain finally win it, but I agree that the way Spain and FCB has been playing the past few years have been really frustrating to watch. The endless pass-pass-pass-pass poo poo looking for the defense to breakdown is really awful. Watching FCB games the past years have made me hate them more and more. Would it be so bad to take a shot once in a while instead of passing the ball into the goal? edit: I wonder if Spain would lose their titles if it came to light that some of their players were on PED's. Is there a modern precedent on such a thing. At least it would cast a nasty shadow on it if nothing else and they would go down in history as not being able to win it without cheating. Emetic Hustler fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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serious gaylord posted:Spain will be a national embarrassment and almost all of sports results for the last 10 years will be severely shaken up. At this point the Spanish government know WADA will get their hands on the samples, so they're trying to stall for as much time as they can in the hopes that the samples degrade enough to be in admissible. How much do you know about the case bru? I was wondering what exactly was happening and what WADA were up to, but I can't find a great deal.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Then pep's style creeps in further and rather than the brilliant football for what is overwhelmingly the worlds most talented squad we get an ultradefensive pile of shite that somehow gets excused because they have loads of possession. A team with Xavi, Alonso, Villa, Torres (while he was still good), iniesta etc start passing the ball back to the keeper rather then try and score a goal and spend the entirety of the world cup grinding out 1-0 wins. It's an appalling waste of talent and is basically another form of mourinho's 'anti-football'. There is also the fact that despite having easily the best team in the world at the time, one of the tactics used by Barca was to go to ground under any challenge to win a free kick and get possession back instead of being tackled. Leading to Dani Alves being stretchered off to waste time and jumping off the stretcher and running back on as soon as he'd got off the pitch
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Pep brought the doctor who was in charge when he tested positive for Nandrolone, to the staff at Barca and now at Bayern.
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Jun 18, 2014 10:05
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Spain are showing what being off Erythropoietin can really do!
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quote:-Barcelona always travel the same day to every away game, which is said to be triggered to reduce the chances that there is a surprise drug test by UEFA officials. There are also the rumors Abidal's tumors were caused by doping, and this forced Pep out. Spanish sport is filthy, Nadal with his hulk hogan looking rear end. They should be barred from all sporting competitions for a decade.
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Fluo posted:Spain are showing what being off Erythropoietin can really do! The stuff must have been caught in customs before the Holland game. Perhaps they managed to get a local source for it for the Chile game.
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vaginal culture posted:There are also the rumors Abidal's tumors were caused by doping, and this forced Pep out. Spanish sport is filthy, Nadal with his hulk hogan looking rear end. They should be barred from all sporting competitions for a decade. That quote implies that other leagues test anywhere near enough, which is false, I think ? Also lol at getting fined for missing a doping test instead of it counting as a positive test as it does in cycling and most other individual sports at least.
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Syncopated posted:That quote implies that other leagues test anywhere near enough, which is false, I think ? Also lol at getting fined for missing a doping test instead of it counting as a positive test as it does in cycling and most other individual sports at least. Are you saying people who get paid over £200,000 a week aren't hurt by a small fine? SHAME ON YOU!
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Syncopated posted:That quote implies that other leagues test anywhere near enough, which is false, I think ? Also lol at getting fined for missing a doping test instead of it counting as a positive test as it does in cycling and most other individual sports at least. In England it's relatively strict. Players are tested at random (many of them asked to give samples directly after a game), and if you miss one you get hosed. Rio Ferdinand got merked because he decided to move house instead of piss in a jar, and even though he pissed in the jar and passed clean the next day he still got a lengthy ban. Also lets not forget Adrian Mutu, who did cocaine and got caught, and has now been ordered to personally compensate Chelsea for the entirety of his transfer fee, something in the region of £16mil.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:In England it's relatively strict. Players are tested at random (many of them asked to give samples directly after a game), and if you miss one you get hosed. Rio Ferdinand got merked because he decided to move house instead of piss in a jar, and even though he pissed in the jar and passed clean the next day he still got a lengthy ban. Yeah, England is pretty strict. Spain are just the dirty cheating shits that they always were and their drug policy is just one factor.
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Even lance armstrong thinks football is dirty.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...-up-doping.html England strict lmao. Chelsea and spurs have both bought centrifuges and give no fucks. If people want a doping thread i'm happy to make one like it did for the 2012 olympics
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Nah all soccer testing is a loving joke, they don't blood test (only now are starting to I think) and its only in competition testing. If testing was good, players would look like they did in the 80's again.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:
Go on, it's always funny to see people defend Nadal and the like
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:
Would be down for this.
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Jun 18, 2014 10:27
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:
Please do.
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Jun 18, 2014 10:35
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Do it.
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Jun 18, 2014 10:37
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Can't one of the world cup mods just rename this one?
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Syncopated posted:Can't one of the world cup mods just rename this one? world cup mod here, this is the Spain thread.
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FIFA tested all but ~60 players nefore the world cup, heres the ones they didn't test https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t2J5O_ANFrQnsps3UC_bQww/htmlview?pli=1
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vaginal culture posted:FIFA tested all but ~60 players nefore the world cup, heres the ones they didn't test https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t2J5O_ANFrQnsps3UC_bQww/htmlview?pli=1 Weird it's almost like almost all of the players who didn't get tested play for Real Madrid or Atletico or somewhere in Spain.
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I hope Spain get trashed tomorrow so hard.
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Professional football is doped to the gills, don't delude yourself into thinking your domestic league is safe from that. If there's money on the line you better believe people will go to lengths to secure a certain level of performance.
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vaginal culture posted:FIFA tested all but ~60 players nefore the world cup, heres the ones they didn't test https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t2J5O_ANFrQnsps3UC_bQww/htmlview?pli=1 The best is Ezequiel Lavezzi, who had to suddenly leave the ground due to personal reasons exactly at the moment that the drug testers appeared.
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