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Veyrall posted:So, a while ago, someone was posting art from cards that they thought was really horrific or disturbing. Well, I just found a new one. He did do that to himself. Dude just wants to get maximum sensation by using all of his senses. Personally I think it's pretty funny. Taste the hell outta that frog.
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Jun 18, 2014 19:33
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Veyrall posted:So, a while ago, someone was posting art from cards that they thought was really horrific or disturbing. Well, I just found a new one. He's doing it to himself on purpose though so it's okay.
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Jun 18, 2014 19:34
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Veyrall posted:So, a while ago, someone was posting art from cards that they thought was really horrific or disturbing. Well, I just found a new one. I just realized that the black and white thing on his head is a skunk laying directly on his nose. I thought it was just part of the creature design.
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Jun 18, 2014 19:42
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Zorak posted:Illusory Angel in Modern could be a thing with Pod and Vial. Pod could already be podding into Skaab Ruinator at CMC3. Pod doesn't like undercosted beaters, it likes obnoxious abilities. Vial would generally rather get Serra Avenger, unless it's somehow not in a white deck.
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Jun 18, 2014 19:43
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Chorocojo posted:He did do that to himself. Dude just wants to get maximum sensation by using all of his senses. Personally I think it's pretty funny. Taste the hell outta that frog. Flavor text for Exiled Boggart: Among the boggarts, there is only one real rule: all new treasures and experiences must be shared. Those who hoard their gifts commit the one truly unforgivable sin.
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Jun 18, 2014 20:40
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whydirt posted:I could definitely see Khans block using war and sieges as the inspiration for bottom-up mechanics with lots of equipment and maybe even fortifications for real. Equipment works really well with tokens, so laying the groundwork in M15 with convoke and supporting cards makes sense. If true, expect a lot of artifact hate, because Wizards hates land destruction. Unless they print stuff like "Destroy target fortification and the land it equips".
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Jun 18, 2014 23:08
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Good equipment would break Prophetic Flamespeaker in half. So naturally I'm hoping for it. 
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Jun 18, 2014 23:20
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Considering that the Khans were nomadic, fortifications would make sense for their enemies.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:29
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Angry Grimace posted:Good equipment would break Prophetic Flamespeaker in half. So naturally I'm hoping for it. I mean, if that's the kind of deck you wanna build, isn't Godsend good enough?
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Jun 18, 2014 23:31
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qbert posted:I mean, if that's the kind of deck you wanna build, isn't Godsend good enough? No, because Godsend isn't "good" equipment. I'm talking like Swords quality.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:49
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qbert posted:I mean, if that's the kind of deck you wanna build, isn't Godsend good enough? If this is actually a thing, I suspect you want an equipped flamespeaker attacking on turn 4 and godsend doesn't let you do that.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:50
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The revenge of the return of Horsemanship.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:51
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qbert posted:I mean, if that's the kind of deck you wanna build, isn't Godsend good enough? Godsend would functionally not be much better than a Greatsword with Flamespeaker. Godsend is not actually very good.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:52
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Angry Grimace posted:No, because Godsend isn't "good" equipment. I'm talking like Swords quality. I think we're all going to be waiting a while for them to pop up.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:53
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They made equipment way too good until Scars block, and they've been nerfing it ever since Innistrad. I suspect Godsend is the closest thing we'll see to equipment being 'pushed' until there's another artifact-themed block.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:01
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Angry Grimace posted:No, because Godsend isn't "good" equipment. I'm talking like Swords quality. Turns out bolting two spell effects to a p/t boost to protection for 3 mana is way too loving good to get printed regularly  The swords aren't 'good', they're ridiculous.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:09
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The problem with Godsend is that for its cost it should provide some kind of protection. Spear of Heliod is better in almost every way.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:10
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Entropic posted:They made equipment way too good until Scars block, and they've been nerfing it ever since Innistrad. I suspect Godsend is the closest thing we'll see to equipment being 'pushed' until there's another artifact-themed block. Sword of FaF and Butterskills were very strong cards that were made stronger by virtue of the absurd cards they shared their initial standard with (FaF continued to be a strong card postban, Batterskull was relegated to the sideboard for most decks). Stoneforge was always the thing that made them a problem. I would also not qualify any equipment made between Scars and Kamigawa as "way too good", most of it was actually pretty bad, with Basilisk Collar being like, the closest to a standout until Scars.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:10
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Angry Grimace posted:The problem with Godsend is that for its cost it should provide some kind of protection. Poor flavor. Too soon?
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Jun 19, 2014 00:14
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jscolon2.0 posted:Poor flavor. Too soon? I suppose Protection from White and Black would have helped a bit.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:14
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Speaking of which, I love that Godsend lets the white weenie deck attack through Blood Baron. People are always surprised that it doesn't actually target. I've eaten a few Hexproof blockers with it too.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:19
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Angry Grimace posted:I suppose Protection from White and Black would have helped a bit. But then Heliod wouldn't have been able to kill Elspeths. Poor flavor again. I like Godsend, it's a good card that needs specific shells to be especially good. That's fine by me.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:22
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Angry Grimace posted:No, because Godsend isn't "good" equipment. I'm talking like Swords quality. Aaron Forsythe came out and said the swords were too good for modern day magic and the only reason they kept them was to complete the cycle.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:28
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UberJew posted:The swords aren't 'good', they're ridiculous. Fair equipment is a pretty narrow margin, though I guess Prophetic would quite fancy a Runechanter's pike.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:32
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TheKingofSprings posted:I would also not qualify any equipment made between Scars and Kamigawa as "way too good", most of it was actually pretty bad, with Basilisk Collar being like, the closest to a standout until Scars. Let me tell you about Sword of the Meek. 
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Jun 19, 2014 00:32
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Aaron Forsythe came out and said the swords were too good for modern day magic and the only reason they kept them was to complete the cycle. E: I did 10+ zendikar drafts and never once saw a trusty machete  Q != E fuuuuuuuuuu
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Jun 19, 2014 00:33
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Bonesplitter is still top-three equipment ever printed and distorted Mirrodin draft more than any other card.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:34
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So about how long did take from thopter foundry being printed till the combo was found?
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Jun 19, 2014 00:35
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Bugsy posted:So about how long did take from thopter foundry being printed till the combo was found? I would bet that the first combo people tried with Thopter Foundry was some goofy infinite mana poo poo with KCI that was about a million times worse than the Sword combo.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:42
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I finally managed to bestow on my opponent's creature for value. There's that whole uncommon cycle in JOU, but the first I've ever actually used any of them that way was in a draft today where I bestowed the "Must Block If Able" green 4/1 onto my opponent's Brain Maggot and attacked into it with a 1/1 deathtoucher to get my exiled creature back. I like the design of that cycle, but it feel like it almost never actually makes sense to bestow them on your opponent's creatures.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:53
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Entropic posted:I finally managed to bestow on my opponent's creature for value. There's that whole uncommon cycle in JOU, but the first I've ever actually used any of them that way was in a draft today where I bestowed the "Must Block If Able" green 4/1 onto my opponent's Brain Maggot and attacked into it with a 1/1 deathtoucher to get my exiled creature back. It definitely requires some proper building around and even then, it's iffy. The one I've found most useful is the blue Nautilus in an Izzet deck I put together. Instantly remove some insanely large monstrosity creatures and get a dude out of it. But yeah, they feel more like good bonuses for your own creatures if you play them smart.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:57
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I'd like to believe that there's design space between Godsend and Sword of Fire and Ice.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:59
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Angry Grimace posted:I'd like to believe that there's design space between Godsend and Sword of Fire and Ice. Have you tried vigilance? Also, since Prophetic Flamespeaker has double strike AND trample, he does eight damage per swing anyway. And then nets you two cards. He might as well be unblockable at that point because no one is blocking that.
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Jun 19, 2014 01:03
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Besides the whole protection-from-color thing, a key difference between Godsend and color swords is that the color swords reward you for NOT getting blocked, which is generally what you're striving for in constructed. Making your dude impossible to block profitably requires that your opponent be forced to block, which means they can't remove him or ignore the damage. It's just basically a strategically worse proposition.
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Jun 19, 2014 01:05
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TheKingofSprings posted:I would also not qualify any equipment made between Scars and Kamigawa as "way too good", most of it was actually pretty bad, with Basilisk Collar being like, the closest to a standout until Scars. Jitte?
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Jun 19, 2014 01:18
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C-Euro posted:Jitte? I think his definition of "between" doesn't mean "in"
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Jun 19, 2014 01:34
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Mortimer posted:I think his definition of "between" doesn't mean "in" OK yeah, I was wondering what time period we were looking at and Jitte seemed really obvious.
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Jun 19, 2014 01:43
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Everblight posted:Bonesplitter is still top-three equipment ever printed and distorted Mirrodin draft more than any other card. Bonesplitter is very good and possibly the best common equipment, but no way is it top 3 best equipment ever. Edit: Hell, after Darksteel, it was already probably number 4. Elyv fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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Jun 19, 2014 02:03
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Everblight posted:Bonesplitter is still top-three equipment ever printed and distorted Mirrodin draft more than any other card. Dies to Manriki-Gusari.
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