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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Normal Person posted:Wheeeee. Good job.
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Jun 14, 2014 06:46
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blk posted:I'm confused by this. Does a rear door really provide more rigidity and side impact protection than a doorless rear quarter? I would think that side impact protection would also be the same between 3 and 5 door as the location of the B pillar doesn't seem to move that much - the driver and passenger doors on most 3 door compacts aren't dramtically larger. Why fewer rattles? They are though, and that is what causes all the other stuff
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Jun 14, 2014 07:40
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Pulling Teeth posted:Are there any other French hot hatch enthusiasts here? Hello! I have a 172 cup and my girlfriend drives a full fat 182. There's something about Renaultsport cars that's just so much fun. Terrible build quality but cheap enough to justify it. We might be swapping the 182 for a megane sometime, how do you like yours?
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Jun 14, 2014 14:09
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Pulling Teeth posted:Are there any other French hot hatch enthusiasts here? That is, people who like to go fast around corners on the way to their mechanic? This one is mine: I've got a Peugeot 205 GTI. I've owned it since 2004 and have swapped the engine for a 160hp 16V from a Citroen BX, plus a nice leather interior from a limited edition 309. It's off the road at the moment. I tried to tidy up the engine wiring (it was a real mess after the engine swap), but 25 year old French wiring that's been roasting away in the engine bay is rather brittle, so I ended up having to make a complete new engine loom from scratch.
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Jun 14, 2014 20:58
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Jefinabox posted:Hello! I have a 172 cup and my girlfriend drives a full fat 182. There's something about Renaultsport cars that's just so much fun. Terrible build quality but cheap enough to justify it. I love mine - I like the strange styling and the F4RT engine is fantastic. If you're going for a Megane II (like mine), try to get either a Phase II or a Phase I Cup - the Phase I non-Cup models came out with average suspension set ups that really hamper the car. The Cup models have MUCH stiffer suspension especially in the rear, which of course reduces ride quality but massively increases everything the car is supposed to do. Before I bought mine I drove a Phase I non-Cup and although it was nice enough, it felt like driving an overpowered Mazda 3 or something. The Cup is completely different. Sweevo posted:I've got a Peugeot 205 GTI. I've owned it since 2004 and have swapped the engine for a 160hp 16V from a Citroen BX, plus a nice leather interior from a limited edition 309. Love to see pics of this. I've never driven a Pug GTI but always wanted to.
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Jun 15, 2014 00:04
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Pulling Teeth posted:Are there any other French hot hatch enthusiasts here? That is, people who like to go fast around corners on the way to their mechanic? This one is mine: I had a 205 GTI 1.9 before my Fiesta ST, it was a great drive but a total basket case unfortunately
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Jun 15, 2014 01:26
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Pulling Teeth posted:I love mine - I like the strange styling and the F4RT engine is fantastic. If you're going for a Megane II (like mine), try to get either a Phase II or a Phase I Cup - the Phase I non-Cup models came out with average suspension set ups that really hamper the car. The Cup models have MUCH stiffer suspension especially in the rear, which of course reduces ride quality but massively increases everything the car is supposed to do. Before I bought mine I drove a Phase I non-Cup and although it was nice enough, it felt like driving an overpowered Mazda 3 or something. The Cup is completely different. Is this a real thing? Did you make that up?
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Jun 17, 2014 23:50
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veedubfreak posted:Is this a real thing? Did you make that up? No, it's the actual designation for Renault's 2.0L turbo 4-cylinder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_F-Type_engine#F4x 
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Jun 18, 2014 08:53
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Pulling Teeth posted:I read somewhere that Renault doesn't sell in the US, is that the case? Renault WAS sold in the U.S. for a time way back in the 70's I believe. The "Le Car". It was a total piece of poo poo. The Yugo would have been an upgrade to it. I guess lack of sales made them pull out of North America and they never came back.
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Jun 18, 2014 12:43
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Just saw my first commercial for the MK7 GTI when I was at lunch. Woooooooo, gimme my R already!
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Jun 18, 2014 20:06
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veedubfreak posted:Just saw my first commercial for the MK7 GTI when I was at lunch. Woooooooo, gimme my R already! True story: before I bought my ST, I was quoted a $6000 premium on an Mk7 GTI Autobahn. With options, this puts the car around $37k. For a GTI. I couldn't walk out of the dealership fast enough.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:38
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Normal Person posted:True story: before I bought my ST, I was quoted a $6000 premium on an Mk7 GTI Autobahn. With options, this puts the car around $37k. For a GTI. I couldn't walk out of the dealership fast enough. This is what I'm worrying about. Too much buzz about this car. They are going to be selling it at or above MSRP. I want no part of a GTI that's north of $30k. The options I want put a GTI at about $31. I'll be holding on to my 04' SI for at least one more year it looks like.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:46
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Mistayke posted:I guess lack of sales made them pull out of North America and they never came back. Wrong. Renault is still sold in Mexico to this day. I helped my uncle rebuild a Renault station wagon about 10 years ago. It only had 3 lug nuts per wheel, factory.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:49
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I just want to say I love my Veloster Turbo, its astounding how much power you can get out of such a small engine these days. 201hp on a 1.6litre engine seems insane to me. I think its a blast to drive, but I'd like to stiffen the suspension a little bit on it.
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Jun 19, 2014 02:05
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tijag posted:This is what I'm worrying about. Too much buzz about this car. They are going to be selling it at or above MSRP. I want no part of a GTI that's north of $30k. The options I want put a GTI at about $31. Thats usually the case for the first 6 months or so, then it'll drop. Unless it was something very low production like a Boss 302 Laguna Seca, the price will go down.
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Jun 19, 2014 02:13
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I'm generally not a VW fan, but being in Hong Kong the past couple days and seeing the new Scirocco in the flesh, I have no idea why they aren't bringing it to the US. It gorgeous, intimidating, sleek, and I want one. That thing would sell like hotcakes.
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Jun 19, 2014 02:17
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BoostCreep posted:I'm generally not a VW fan, but being in Hong Kong the past couple days and seeing the new Scirocco in the flesh, I have no idea why they aren't bringing it to the US. It gorgeous, intimidating, sleek, and I want one. That thing would sell like hotcakes. Cannibalize GTI sales.
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Jun 19, 2014 02:21
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Gunktacular posted:I just want to say I love my Veloster Turbo, its astounding how much power you can get out of such a small engine these days. 201hp on a 1.6litre engine seems insane to me. I hear the euro one gets a firmer suspension, but for a daily the softer suspension isn't bad, especially on pot hole riddled roads. My other gripe with it are the terrible oem kumho solus tires. I thought I could withstand keeping them on until they wear out but nope, already have a new set of sticky summer's on order. Oh, and post pictures! Here's mine in all it's 
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Jun 19, 2014 03:22
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BoostCreep posted:I'm generally not a VW fan, but being in Hong Kong the past couple days and seeing the new Scirocco in the flesh, I have no idea why they aren't bringing it to the US. It gorgeous, intimidating, sleek, and I want one. That thing would sell like hotcakes. Federalization and the fact that it would be quite expensive are the rationales I have heard.
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Jun 19, 2014 15:57
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Because americans are fat lazy fucksticks that only buy giant suvs. VW can barely sell enough Golf/GTI hatchbacks to make it worth their time. Why do you think most of their ads are pushing the bigger cars.
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Jun 19, 2014 17:32
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The profit margins on larger vehicles are also much higher. Ford can make 8 to 10 thousand when they sell a truck or Expedition. A new Focus or Fiesta probably makes them around 1000. It makes sense to push the higher margin vehicles when advertising.
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Jun 19, 2014 17:46
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skipdogg posted:The profit margins on larger vehicles are also much higher. Ford can make 8 to 10 thousand when they sell a truck or Expedition. A new Focus or Fiesta probably makes them around 1000. It makes sense to push the higher margin vehicles when advertising. Small cars exist in the US solely to push up fuel mileage numbers so that CARB can furiously masturbate that they are saving the world.
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Jun 19, 2014 18:11
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veedubfreak posted:Small cars exist in the US solely to push up fuel mileage numbers so that CARB can furiously masturbate that they are saving the world. Then thank goodness for CARB, yet another regulatory system that only has to exist because Americans are idiot children.
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Jun 19, 2014 18:49
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veedubfreak posted:Small cars exist in the US solely to push up fuel mileage numbers so that CARB can furiously masturbate that they are saving the world. Except CAFE was an Act of Congress in 1975, and CARB is a California state regulatory and standards policy agency that has been adopted by other states for various reasons.
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Jun 19, 2014 19:10
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Mistayke posted:Renault WAS sold in the U.S. for a time way back in the 70's I believe. The "Le Car". It was a total piece of poo poo. The Yugo would have been an upgrade to it. The US got the Renault 9 and 11 too. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Alliance
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Jun 19, 2014 19:28
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Also some people want small cars and buy them in quantities sufficient to justify their production (unlike, say, the diesel wagon fans.) And did so before CAFE, for that matter. CAFE did more to eliminate classes (mainstream wagons, small pickups) than create new or stimulate existing ones, with the glaring exception of the CUV.
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Jun 19, 2014 19:35
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Bajaha posted:I hear the euro one gets a firmer suspension, but for a daily the softer suspension isn't bad, especially on pot hole riddled roads. Looks good in blue! I've got the red one. Have you tried disconnecting your upper clutch lever sensor? It really improves shift feel if you're not terrible at driving stick, and it gets rid of that super annoying indicator on the HUD that tells you to upshift. Pictured: My 2013 Turbo Veloster 
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Jun 19, 2014 20:05
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I've tried it, I haven't noticed a huge difference in shifts other than it being more burbly on the way down (sounds so nice) and jerky if you just want to let off throttle to coast in gear, no rev hang when throwing it in neutral is nice too. No cruise makes it a no go for me though, and I don't mind the shift indicator too much, never really bugged me. A lot of the other benefits seem to be more placebo, but the chatty exhaust makes it worth it. Was planning on wiring in a cut off switch and labeling it "sport" for fun but I haven't gotten around to that yet. (Main project demands the time and this one is supposed to be the no-touching-this daily driver anyway) Want to keep as close to stock or easily reversible so I want to make a little extension for the clutch switch and have my cut off wired into that extension so that no oem wiring gets touched. Red is pretty good colour for them too, honestly I loved the vitamin c one when I saw pictures online and the brochure, but seeing it in person... well, it really photographs a lot better than it looks. One more for the road:  Weirdly enough for past month, every single day a drat bird has poo poo on the car. Every. Single. Day. Small birds to big geese, I think they hate the colour, or the car in general, happens all over town. It's supposed to mean good luck, but god drat, it's annoying coming out every day with a microfiber to clean the bird crap off. Bajaha fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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Jun 19, 2014 23:29
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Normal Person posted:Wheeeee. Fix that hood gap!
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Jun 20, 2014 00:04
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Bajaha posted:I've tried it, I haven't noticed a huge difference in shifts other than it being more burbly on the way down (sounds so nice) and jerky if you just want to let off throttle to coast in gear, no rev hang when throwing it in neutral is nice too. No cruise makes it a no go for me though, and I don't mind the shift indicator too much, never really bugged me. A lot of the other benefits seem to be more placebo, but the chatty exhaust makes it worth it. How do you keep your wheels so clean? I think I need to find a better method.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:12
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Once you get them really clean, and I mean sparkling, give them a good coat of wax. I've been using nanoskin hydrophobic wax as a cheaper wheel wax or for when I feel lazy and just do the whole car with it. Helps a lot next time you clean them. Are you having brake dust issues or just general dust and dirt?
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Jun 20, 2014 00:30
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veedubfreak posted:Because americans are fat lazy fucksticks that only buy giant suvs. VW can barely sell enough Golf/GTI hatchbacks to make it worth their time. Why do you think most of their ads are pushing the bigger cars. It's true. My rental is a Dodge Charger or something, it feels like driving around a godamn 737. Mind you it's actually not half bad on gas.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:52
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veedubfreak posted:Because americans are fat lazy fucksticks that only buy giant suvs. VW can barely sell enough Golf/GTI hatchbacks to make it worth their time. Why do you think most of their ads are pushing the bigger cars. Supposedly in Australia 1 out of 4 Golfs sold are GTIs. Australians love their hot hatches and sporty family cars (1 in 3 Commodores sold are V8 models)
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Jun 20, 2014 00:58
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MetaJew posted:Fix that hood gap! No thanks, that's the way it's supposed to be!
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Jun 20, 2014 01:02
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Anyone have tips for cleaning Fiesta ST rados? At least twice, with two different very soft clothes, I have gotten a bit of dust trapped and scratched the clear coat of the rim.
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Jun 20, 2014 01:38
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Wheeee posted:Then thank goodness for CARB, yet another regulatory system that only has to exist because Americans are idiot children. Yeah, it's really terrible just how staggering emissions have been reduced in the past 40 years due to CARB and the EPA. 
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Jun 20, 2014 02:45
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Dr.Caligari posted:Anyone have tips for cleaning Fiesta ST rados? At least twice, with two different very soft clothes, I have gotten a bit of dust trapped and scratched the clear coat of the rim. No advice, but my FOSTs wheels look dirty if I dint hands detail them weekly. In 200 miles they look like they've never been cleaned.
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Jun 20, 2014 15:11
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Gunktacular posted:Have you tried disconnecting your upper clutch lever sensor? Actually, this reminds me, have done the BPV to BOV mod? It feels so wrong coming from MAF based cars with the Subaru, but since the Veloster is MAP based, this kind of intake crap is a-ok. It sounds pretty nice if you like the little choo-choo turbo noises, and it's not obnoxious on the outside or crazy loud, just a little extra noise to enjoy. Dead simple and cheap too, even more-so in the states. Just grab a rubber cap of appropriate size from Oriely's or wherever for ~$5 to block off the inlet on the intake and zip tie the BPV hose right beside it so it doesn't flop around the engine bay.
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Jun 23, 2014 04:58
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howling_mad posted:No advice, but my FOSTs wheels look dirty if I dint hands detail them weekly. In 200 miles they look like they've never been cleaned. Yea, I got tired of that within a month and plasti dipped em black. Haven't found anything that really keeps the screen clean, fingerprint magnet no matter what.
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Jun 26, 2014 02:58
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Bajaha posted:Actually, this reminds me, have done the BPV to BOV mod? It feels so wrong coming from MAF based cars with the Subaru, but since the Veloster is MAP based, this kind of intake crap is a-ok. I have done it and I love the sound, its not over the top loud in my opinion.
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Jun 26, 2014 03:13
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