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Washington Engines, with a locomotive logo
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Jun 19, 2014 02:41
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Washington Redskins, only the logo is a potato wearing a little helmet
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Jun 19, 2014 02:42
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bewbies posted:Legal goons, what do you think the basis for the appeal will be? 15 U.S.C. 1071. Statutory right to appeal decisions of the TTAB to the federal courts.
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Jun 19, 2014 02:46
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The merits of the appeal, however, is gonna be kinda rough. Just because they can appeal doesn't mean they'll win. The TTAB put forth a convincing argument that the trademark is not only disparaging now, but was disparaging when granted. The first case was only bounced on grounds of laches (not dissimilar with statute of limitations) as the plaintiffs were deemed to have waited too long to pursue the disparagement claim. The upshot of this, however, is that there's a perpetually churning population which has new members reaching the age of majority every day-- and thus, able to bring suit. The time limit applies to individual plaintiffs seeking to get rid of the trademark, not to challenging the trademark itself. Long story short, Snyder might be kinda hosed, as there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of defense here.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:01
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Well, the first case was initially bounced both on laches and on lack of evidence. It was appealed, court of appeals rules on laches and omitted the substantive issue since laches decided it, remanded, district decided purely on laches. So it's not quite as bleak as all that. Then again, DDC is not the friendliest place for causes like this one.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:13
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Washington Partisans.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:16
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Kalman posted:Well, the first case was initially bounced both on laches and on lack of evidence. It was appealed, court of appeals rules on laches and omitted the substantive issue since laches decided it, remanded, district decided purely on laches. So it's not quite as bleak as all that. Considering other trademark attempts featuring the word "redskins" have been rejected, including "Washington Redskins Cheerleaders," I have a feeling that the team will also lose the appeal: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/local/wp/2014/01/28/from-pork-rinds-to-cheerleaders-the-trademark-office-rejects-the-word-redskins/ Washington Redtails would actually be a way for them to honor Hot Diggity! fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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Jun 19, 2014 03:22
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Breaky posted:Washington Partisans. Washington Partizans, so they can keep the spear logo
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Jun 19, 2014 03:25
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Alouicious posted:Washington Partizans, so they can keep the spear logo Washington Parisians. Replace the headdress with a beret.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:26
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Ok I wasn't planning to post at all this week but I'm going to make an exception and phone post from Hawaii just to say lol Redskins
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Jun 19, 2014 03:32
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TubeStank posted:Washington Redtails would actually be a way for them to honor Native Americans, plus have cool historical connection and keep the color scheme.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:33
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het posted:My understanding was that Redtails was a reference to African American airmen in WWII, not Native Americans? Either way I think people's attempts to make the new name "honor" Native Americans are really misguided and the best strategy would be to abandon any reference to it. If the team aims to do something good to honor Native Americans, they can do it by following through with the charity they set up, not making them a mascot. Whoops, yeah, you're right. I had seen a couple of mockups that had alluded to that, so they were wrong with that aspect.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:36
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het posted:My understanding was that Redtails was a reference to African American airmen in WWII, not Native Americans? Either way I think people's attempts to make the new name "honor" Native Americans are really misguided and the best strategy would be to abandon any reference to it. If the team aims to do something good to honor Native Americans, they can do it by following through with the charity they set up, not making them a mascot. The only real way to do it would be what FSU did with the Seminoles, where they license the name (which is a specific tribe and not a slur or a general term like Indians) and also do a lot for awareness and philanthropy. FSU tries (and fails) to crack down on the stereotypical stuff like the tomahawk chop. Washington could do that if they really want to keep the theme, they just need to find a willing tribe.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:38
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TubeStank posted:Considering other trademark attempts featuring the word "redskins" have been rejected, including "Washington Redskins Cheerleaders," I have a feeling that the team will also lose the appeal: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/local/wp/2014/01/28/from-pork-rinds-to-cheerleaders-the-trademark-office-rejects-the-word-redskins/ Different decision maker and different standards of decision, though. I don't think any of those new attempts have made it to court yet, they're just examiner rejections (and possibly a TTAB decision or two.)
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Jun 19, 2014 03:39
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swickles posted:The only real way to do it would be what FSU did with the Seminoles, where they license the name (which is a specific tribe and not a slur or a general term like Indians) and also do a lot for awareness and philanthropy. FSU tries (and fails) to crack down on the stereotypical stuff like the tomahawk chop. Washington could do that if they really want to keep the theme, they just need to find a willing tribe. Even that's...less than ideal, though: http://www.thenation.com/blog/177800/florida-state-seminoles-champions-racist-mascots
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Jun 19, 2014 03:43
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Would this be the first time the US givernment has decided to take something away from the redskins? Someone with a good knowledg of sports history would know.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:46
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Wanvig posted:Washington Redskins, only the logo is a potato wearing a little helmet PETA beat you to that joke.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:50
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Teddybear posted:The merits of the appeal, however, is gonna be kinda rough. Just because they can appeal doesn't mean they'll win. The TTAB put forth a convincing argument that the trademark is not only disparaging now, but was disparaging when granted. The first case was only bounced on grounds of laches (not dissimilar with statute of limitations) as the plaintiffs were deemed to have waited too long to pursue the disparagement claim. The upshot of this, however, is that there's a perpetually churning population which has new members reaching the age of majority every day-- and thus, able to bring suit. The time limit applies to individual plaintiffs seeking to get rid of the trademark, not to challenging the trademark itself. While I do think they might actually uphold today's ruling, the question is how long will the appeal last anyway? It took so long to get this far, how long do we have to wait for true victory? If it happens?
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Jun 19, 2014 03:51
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Febreeze posted:While I do think they might actually uphold today's ruling, the question is how long will the appeal last anyway? It took so long to get this far, how long do we have to wait for true victory? If it happens? Unless they found a way to get this case to the front of the line it'll be a couple of years.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:53
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TMMadman posted:I've got it: The Washington Carvers. I like this one.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:56
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Party Plane Jones posted:I like this one. I'd be cool with a resurrection of the Clone High anthropomorphic peanut.
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Jun 19, 2014 03:59
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The Washington Redbox Instant by Verizon
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Jun 19, 2014 04:05
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Febreeze posted:While I do think they might actually uphold today's ruling, the question is how long will the appeal last anyway? It took so long to get this far, how long do we have to wait for true victory? If it happens? Court docket times are significantly faster than TTAB appeals, but it's still going to be 2-3 years most likely.
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Jun 19, 2014 04:05
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Vladimir Putin posted:Would this be the first time the US givernment has decided to take something away from the redskins? Andrew Jackson tried his damndest.
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Jun 19, 2014 04:09
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het posted:My understanding was that Redtails was a reference to African American airmen in WWII, not Native Americans? Either way I think people's attempts to make the new name "honor" Native Americans are really misguided and the best strategy would be to abandon any reference to it. If the team aims to do something good to honor Native Americans, they can do it by following through with the charity they set up, not making them a mascot. Also kinda dumb because they have zero to do with Washington. Now, if Montgomery Alabama got a team...that'd be a good one. Just be the Washington Potomacs, change the colors to white and red, and put the Washington coat of arms on the helmet.
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Jun 19, 2014 04:11
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I remember when St. John's (Chris Mullin, Metta World Peace, Mark Jackson) changed their name from 'redmen' to 'redstorm'. That was like 10 years ago. So yeah Washington is a little behind the times.
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Jun 19, 2014 04:20
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rjmccall posted:Washington Hogs would be a legitimately good name. Washington Warthogs just sounds better. A hog name lets them keep the cross-dressing pig people too 
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Jun 19, 2014 04:24
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Bellmaker posted:Washington Warthogs just sounds better. Those dudes retired. Some other bros were dressed up and called themselves Art Monks. It sucked.
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Jun 19, 2014 04:29
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swickles posted:Washington Warthogs is alliterative. And the best idea so far. I think it is cool but I doubt Snyder will find it kosher.
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Jun 19, 2014 04:37
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Chichevache posted:I think it is cool but I doubt Snyder will find it kosher. All the better (not to piss off Jews, just Snyder in particular).
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Jun 19, 2014 04:46
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The NFL should nationalize the Redskins and rename them the Kikes.
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Jun 19, 2014 05:18
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The Washington Oilers
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Jun 19, 2014 05:20
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Sash! posted:Also kinda dumb because they have zero to do with Washington. Now, if Montgomery Alabama got a team...that'd be a good one.
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Jun 19, 2014 05:43
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Volkerball posted:The NFL should nationalize the Redskins and rename them the Kikes. Yea, but when I think of a proud and noble people...
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Jun 19, 2014 05:50
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Volkerball posted:The NFL should nationalize the Redskins and rename them the Kikes. That idea has already been put forth. http://www.theonion.com/articles/redskins-kike-owner-refuses-to-change-teams-offens,34292/
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Jun 19, 2014 05:56
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The Washington Swamp That Traded Malaria For Politics
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Jun 19, 2014 08:25
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It's been 8 pages and 20+ years of scrutiny on the name I think we've breached the law of diminishing returns y'all.
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Jun 19, 2014 11:08
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Washington Redtails with stylized ww2 fighters on the helmet would own Darth could probably whip up a credible uniform based around that
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Jun 19, 2014 11:56
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It should be the Washington Weenies with the new logo being a tiny penis.
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