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jwh
Jun 12, 2002

field balm posted:

Has anyone got a lead on a decent Australian pickup manufacturer or a reasonably priced one that ships internationally? I'd like to support someone local if possible.

I'll probably have follow up questions, I've never really done any messing with pickups except dropping a JB in a fat strat. I really want to pick some out to suit my style.

Kinman?

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Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
Speaking of Australia, anyone ever played a Maton? Some of them look cheesy and cheap. Some of them, the really gently caress expensive ones, look really gently caress expensive.

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006
Justin Sandercoe has

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

juche mane posted:

The Audioslave song is just a tele's neck pickup
Not quite the point, although I appreciate it, I was just trying to give some examples of getting different tones by manipulating the controls on a guitar, something a lot of people neglect.

Plus, I don't have a Tele.

Professor Science
Mar 8, 2006
diplodocus + mortarboard = party

iostream.h posted:

Plus, I don't have a Tele.
you have how many purple guitars yet you don't have a Tele? well now you have no excuse I guess if you have $3500 lying around

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

iostream.h posted:

Plus, I don't have a Tele.

You should really get one. They're my favorite guitars.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

A six saddle bridge on a Tele is blasphemy. I know all the reasons why it makes good sense. But it's still blasphemy.

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

jwh posted:

Kinman?

A bit too pricey and no pickups that really interest me unfortunately. They were pretty much the only thing that showed up on google! I have a wierd H/S guitar so sets don't really work for me.

Has anyone in Australia bought from Guitar Fetish before?

Also, anyone have experience with a wide-range style humbucker in bridge position, or at all? Exactly how single-coily are they? I'll probably just go for a low output splittable bucker, but I'm intrigued by stuff like humbucker sized filtertronics and wide-ranges.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

field balm posted:

A bit too pricey and no pickups that really interest me unfortunately. They were pretty much the only thing that showed up on google! I have a wierd H/S guitar so sets don't really work for me.

Has anyone in Australia bought from Guitar Fetish before?

Also, anyone have experience with a wide-range style humbucker in bridge position, or at all? Exactly how single-coily are they? I'll probably just go for a low output splittable bucker, but I'm intrigued by stuff like humbucker sized filtertronics and wide-ranges.

Fender wide range buckers sound like they do for two reasons: threaded rod magnets, and the fender tone pots. That's really it. I happen to like them.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

jwh posted:

A six saddle bridge on a Tele is blasphemy. I know all the reasons why it makes good sense. But it's still blasphemy.

Convince me before I swap out my 3 in like a week

Professor Science
Mar 8, 2006
diplodocus + mortarboard = party

jwh posted:

Fender wide range buckers sound like they do for two reasons: threaded rod magnets, and the fender tone pots. That's really it. I happen to like them.
amen to this, got a Novak WRHB in the neck of my Tele and it is super rad.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Sockington posted:

I always thought it was 1 & 2 were good, and 3 was ehhhh.


Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Reading that I'd pick a V2 over the third version.


Cojawfee posted:

I have a V2 and it's pretty bright. If the V3 is brighter, no thanks. The V2 is fine unless you're paying more then 400 for it

Well, the going price for a Blues Jr III new is $850, second hand is $575 or so, and I am now the owner of a v2 for $475. I guess that all works out in the end, thank you guys for your help.

Sven
Oct 4, 2005

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Speaking of Australia, anyone ever played a Maton? Some of them look cheesy and cheap. Some of them, the really gently caress expensive ones, look really gently caress expensive.

I have a EBG808 (i think thats its model number). Its one of their smaller bodied acoustics, plays wonderfully and looks pretty nice. Haven't seen an electric by them though.

Revvik
Jul 29, 2006
Fun Shoe
Well poo poo, there's no General Questions thread.

Anyone used Original Guitar Fingers? My skin loving sucks, my work environment is super dry, and this results in basically enormous fissures and cracks in dry skin on my hands that generally results in entire callouses getting torn away. I've already tried Working Hands and other over-the-counter lotions. I've tried superglues and Liquid Skin products that exacerbate things. I'm looking for a good protection solution for injury moments that won't slow me down on guitar or bass.

A Good Username
Oct 10, 2007

field balm posted:

Has anyone got a lead on a decent Australian pickup manufacturer or a reasonably priced one that ships internationally? I'd like to support someone local if possible.

You could also try Brierly pickups.
Never used them personally, but I've heard good things.

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006

Revvik posted:

Well poo poo, there's no General Questions thread.

Anyone used Original Guitar Fingers? My skin loving sucks, my work environment is super dry, and this results in basically enormous fissures and cracks in dry skin on my hands that generally results in entire callouses getting torn away. I've already tried Working Hands and other over-the-counter lotions. I've tried superglues and Liquid Skin products that exacerbate things. I'm looking for a good protection solution for injury moments that won't slow me down on guitar or bass.

Moisturize. Things will be a lot better after you make your hands normal.

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

Professor Science posted:

you have how many purple guitars yet you don't have a Tele? well now you have no excuse I guess if you have $3500 lying around
Dear God in Heaven.
DAMNIT.

jwh posted:

You should really get one. They're my favorite guitars.
I've owned a Tele actually (and I'm not counting inventory items) and really loved it.
It was some random early 90's model with a SD Mini '59 in the bridge, 6 saddles and, to date, remains one of the most wickedly evil sounding son of a bitches I've ever played through. It was a definite player's guitar, had a LOT of wear and hadn't been taken good care of so I spent a lot of time cleaning the neck and bridge, but my GOD it sounded like a beast.

After a gig one night, some dude walked up, said he wanted it, I said no and he started counting out 100's and I left with one less guitar than I loaded in. It's one of the few that I've sold that I really regret letting go, I haven't been able to find the 'right' one to replace it with yet (although that loving purple bastard is nice, I just can't bring myself to pay that much for a guitar unless it's one of the ones on my special list).

I've been considering just buying the parts and putting my own together.

And I really wasn't being bitchy, Juche. I hope I didn't come across that way.

Even if I DID have a Tele and even if it WAS at a gig with me, there are only a couple of songs (not counting the 2nd half of the sets where we go drop-D) that I'll switch out guitars specifically for. I usually only switch out a guitar if I'm about to do something a little shreddy or if I break a string. I was just trying to show how versatile a guitar can be by doing nothing more than twisting the knobs around a bit and diddling the pickup switch.

Revvik posted:

Well poo poo, there's no General Questions thread.

Anyone used Original Guitar Fingers? My skin loving sucks, my work environment is super dry, and this results in basically enormous fissures and cracks in dry skin on my hands that generally results in entire callouses getting torn away. I've already tried Working Hands and other over-the-counter lotions. I've tried superglues and Liquid Skin products that exacerbate things. I'm looking for a good protection solution for injury moments that won't slow me down on guitar or bass.
Go to Wal-Mart and pick up some 'Corn Husker's Lotion'.
Like Juche said, you need moisture, as counterintuitive as it seems.
Don't wait until there's a problem, maintenance is the key.

Revvik
Jul 29, 2006
Fun Shoe

juche mane posted:

Moisturize. Things will be a lot better after you make your hands normal.

I do this, though. I sleep some nights with Aquaphor on my hands and a glove over it.

I'll try Corn Husker's, though.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Revvik posted:

I do this, though. I sleep some nights with Aquaphor on my hands and a glove over it.

I'll try Corn Husker's, though.

Are you doing it constantly? It's there to stop your skin from losing moisture, depending on your situation you might need to keep replenishing it, especially if it's a really dry environment and you're using your hands a lot. Might be worth just keeping a bottle of something around for when your hands start to dry out.

If it's so bad that you have to sleep with a glove on, you're probably best going with some professional advice. I'm guessing you've already seen a dermatologist or something, but they'll have a better idea of your situation and what you can do about it

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

I bought a Wilkinson wraparound and I tried adjusting the saddle for the G and the B and it turns out the threads of the screw are just straight up stripped (and I have no idea what's going on in the hole [haha] so that might be hosed too). Do I have any options or should I just buy another bridge?

Adeline Weishaupt
Oct 16, 2013

by Lowtax
The answer should be yes, you should buy another bridge; unless your guitar is a 24" scale one otherwise you'll never be able to intonate it correctly...

And I am bitter about GFS not listing that very important info on their website.

Bread Dragon
Apr 7, 2012
I have a meandering mind guitar question today, about clones and knock-offs. There is an endless army of Strat and Les Paul clones out there, and a good heap of Tele clones as well. All timeless, recognized guitar styles. Hell, there's even a small cadre of Flying Vs, Gibson hollowbodies and Fender offset clones ready to go. But where the hell are all the SG clones? I know Samick/Torino had a fairly solid cheap clone, and I've been told that Silvertone had one also. But why aren't there dozens to choose from?

In a slightly more relevant question, I just borrowed a buddy's wah for the first time. Of course I goofed around with porno noise for a while and kept a nonstop stream of foot rocking going under some chords. But now that's out of my system and I'm trying to systematically figure out what works. It doesn't really feel like it's my thing (which is fine, obviously, if that's the case). Any pointers or goon approved video lessons?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Not really an overview or anything, but I like them more as a subtle variation, not a full-on muddy HHMMMM to breezy HSHHHHH range. You can use them similar to how a flanger works with distortion, that slow change to the sound that just colours the whole tone, so you modulate the sound like you would with a slow bend. If you can limit the range try that, or just keep it in one place and make small changes. See what you can do with that. And of course, listen to some songs that use it and try to mimic their expression!

Also they can work as a really good fixed filter as well, especially with distortion. You can get some really dirty sounds by rocking it into the darker end. Even makes lovely amps sound good!

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

Bread Dragon posted:

I have a meandering mind guitar question today, about clones and knock-offs. There is an endless army of Strat and Les Paul clones out there, and a good heap of Tele clones as well. All timeless, recognized guitar styles. Hell, there's even a small cadre of Flying Vs, Gibson hollowbodies and Fender offset clones ready to go. But where the hell are all the SG clones? I know Samick/Torino had a fairly solid cheap clone, and I've been told that Silvertone had one also. But why aren't there dozens to choose from?

In a slightly more relevant question, I just borrowed a buddy's wah for the first time. Of course I goofed around with porno noise for a while and kept a nonstop stream of foot rocking going under some chords. But now that's out of my system and I'm trying to systematically figure out what works. It doesn't really feel like it's my thing (which is fine, obviously, if that's the case). Any pointers or goon approved video lessons?

aria makes an awesome sg clone of both guitar bass (got both but coulllld be convinced to get rid of either)

also ampeg made a pretty solid sg clone in the 70s as well.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Bread Dragon posted:

I have a meandering mind guitar question today, about clones and knock-offs. There is an endless army of Strat and Les Paul clones out there, and a good heap of Tele clones as well. All timeless, recognized guitar styles. Hell, there's even a small cadre of Flying Vs, Gibson hollowbodies and Fender offset clones ready to go. But where the hell are all the SG clones? I know Samick/Torino had a fairly solid cheap clone, and I've been told that Silvertone had one also. But why aren't there dozens to choose from?

I mean there are plenty of them, from ESP's Viper to Guild's S100, Hagstrom's pointy thingy, DeArmond's S-73, and Agile makes its Valkyrie model. I haven't played Michael Dolsey guitars but they also make SG clones (and an SG Jr that I was GASing for for a while)

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Bread Dragon posted:

I have a meandering mind guitar question today, about clones and knock-offs. There is an endless army of Strat and Les Paul clones out there, and a good heap of Tele clones as well. All timeless, recognized guitar styles. Hell, there's even a small cadre of Flying Vs, Gibson hollowbodies and Fender offset clones ready to go. But where the hell are all the SG clones? I know Samick/Torino had a fairly solid cheap clone, and I've been told that Silvertone had one also. But why aren't there dozens to choose from?

Probably because the SG is ugly as sin with the two tiny horns.

Dirt
May 26, 2003

The problem with SG clones is they all look weird as gently caress. Just about everyone changes the way the "horns" look or the contours of the body:




I am assuming it is because Gibson will sue the poo poo out of you for making an exact copy.

It's less noticeable with LP copies though.

Speaking of Gibson copies:

I want an ES-335, but I really don't want to drop 3k+ for a real Gibson one. And they don't seem to go on crazy end of the year blow out sales like Les Pauls and SGs do. Who makes the best copies? Ones that look like an ES-335, not with weirdo offset "horns". I am thinking Epiphone is probably the best bet? I had a Guild Starfire years ago, and I hate my self for selling it, even if it did look a little "off".

I was considering a used Heritage ES-335 copy, but that headstock just looks ridiculous. I don't know why they decided on that look.

The higher end Epiphone's are pretty legit, right? That's what I am leaning towards.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!
Yeah, it looks like both of those warped when being taken out of the SG oven.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

Dirt posted:

I want an ES-335, but I really don't want to drop 3k+ for a real Gibson one. And they don't seem to go on crazy end of the year blow out sales like Les Pauls and SGs do. Who makes the best copies? Ones that look like an ES-335, not with weirdo offset "horns". I am thinking Epiphone is probably the best bet? I had a Guild Starfire years ago, and I hate my self for selling it, even if it did look a little "off".

Westerly RI Guild Starfires are awesome, and you should feel bad about selling it! Was it a III?

Anyway, here are some options.

Gretsch has a bunch of new center block guitars that are nice.



Also, Hag Viking? They're probably made in some hell hole factory in Indonesia, but I like them. Plus, they look like Guild Starfires.



I've always loved the deco tuners on Hagstroms.

Anyway, other than that, there's Ibanez, though I don't particularly like them, and Dusenberg makes a great double cutaway, but they're nearly as expensive as a 335.

Have you thought about going vintage, and maybe getting another Starfire?

I've got a great '67 Epiphone Casino I'll be happy to sell you, but it's around $5k.

edit: Also, if you don't intend to play at LOUD VOLUMES, you could look into vintage ES330s as well. Same body shape, but fully hollow, and a very different machine. I have a 1960, and it's my favorite guitar.

Dirt
May 26, 2003



It was a mid 70's, like 73-74 Starfire IV, and it was beat to poo poo. Had a big crack down the back, and lots of dings/scratches. I got it super cheap off a guy who needed cash, and sold it 3 years later for double what I paid for it.

It was a nice guitar though.

I like that gretch though! That Hagstrom is spiffy too.

I am basically in "see what the best deal is" mode. I noticed Carvin makes double cut semi hollow's now, but they are hideous!

I see there is a newer Guild Starfire IV for like 1100, but it looks like it has Mini-humbuckers or something? I want full sized humbuckers :D Although P90's might sound awesome in one.

I just saw a Schecter 335 style guitar for like 700 bucks. Looks pretty cool. I always liked Schecter's too. I might go for that, but I would have to change the pickups, and that is the most painful poo poo ever on a guitar like that. :/


edit: Also someone tell me what the deal with those Gretch Pickups is! I've never played them, they look like Mini humbucker/p90 sized, but the bracket around it looks huge. Can you pull them out and put normal humbuckers in? Or is it routed just for that mini hum/p90 size?

Dirt fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jun 19, 2014

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

You could also look at Hamer, though I never liked the headstocks

40 OZ
May 16, 2003

Dirt posted:

edit: Also someone tell me what the deal with those Gretch Pickups is! I've never played them, they look like Mini humbucker/p90 sized, but the bracket around it looks huge. Can you pull them out and put normal humbuckers in? Or is it routed just for that mini hum/p90 size?

They are Fidelitron style pickups, that are commonly on Gretsch guitars and on some teles. They are typically associated with rockabilly or country music (because they have alot of mid-range honk), but Gretsch says those are specific ones that are more rangey than that.

edit- (Yeah i know that you can play anything with anything. Billy Gibbons, Jack White, loads of people have used this style of pickup)

That guitar is $1000, don't buy it and hack it up. You'll do alot better by purchasing a guitar that is like you want already.

40 OZ fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Jun 19, 2014

Professor Science
Mar 8, 2006
diplodocus + mortarboard = party
Filtertrons are pretty rad, fitting somewhere between a single coil and a humbucker. If you want a jazz box, don't get filtertrons. If you want the stereotypical Strat sound, don't get filtertrons. If you want something that is a little twangy clean and a little less bass-y than your average PAF when overdriven, then yeah, filtertrons will probably work really well.

(I almost pulled the trigger on the Chris Cornell ES-335 a year ago or whenever it was, despite its stupid price tag and lmao Chris Cornell, simply because it was matte black and had Lollartrons. I still sorta regret that.)

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

Filtertrons. Invented by Ray Butts, before Seth Lover "invented" the humbucker. Here's the big difference between filtertrons and Gibson style humbuckers: the coils are closer together, and the coils are wired in parallel (usually). But the biggest difference is a much larger magnet and much smaller windings, giving much more top end.

They also have two sets of individually adjustable pole screws, whereas a PAF has slugs in one half.

They're also my favorite pickups.

But yeah, dimensionally they are a bit different than a regular Gibson humbucker, and I totally agree to not buy a Gretsch to try and shoehorn PAF clones into.

Nebraska Tim
Feb 2, 2010

Smash it Smash hit posted:

aria makes an awesome sg clone of both guitar bass (got both but coulllld be convinced to get rid of either)

also ampeg made a pretty solid sg clone in the 70s as well.

I've always loved the appearance of the SG, and a quick search of Aria SG has get me hooked. Could you possibly upload a picture of yours, for curiosity's sake?

EDIT: Do you have any idea how much they might go for? I can't find any, anywhere.

Nebraska Tim fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jun 19, 2014

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.
I like the Viper. it's not a straight up SG copy it's the bastard lovechild of an SG and a Fender offset. Just wish they'd go the extra mile and release an LTD Viper VI as a hybrid between the Bass VI and EB6.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

E-Money posted:

Thanks for all the advice, everyone! I have tried rolling back the knobs on my guitar. I have found that dialing the tone anywhere off 10 turns everything into a pretty mushy mess, no matter what i set anything else to. Here's my full chain for now: Boss tuner -> Big Muff Pi w/tone wicker -> hardwire supernatural reverb (as of today!) -> Digitech jamman express -> amp.

I find that with my big muff, i almost always have to keep the tone wicker turned on and the tone knob past noon, otherwise I am not getting any highs. As far as pickup settings go, on the LP i feel like if i don't have it in the treble position or both pickups engaged, it's also garbage. Setting it to Rhythm pretty much turns everything to slush as well, especially when there's any gain involved.

Totally open to trying some new ideas if there's more I can do. I'm interested in the Jaguar for the scale length and playability - it seems way more comfortable and fun to play, and is gorgeous to boot. That said, if i can improve the tone of the LP/my general setup, i'm all for it.

You may fret now but down the line you will discover the ease and perfection of just putting everything up as high as it goes.

The Bunk
Sep 15, 2007

Oh, I just don't know
where to begin.
Fun Shoe

jwh posted:

Filtertrons. Invented by Ray Butts, before Seth Lover "invented" the humbucker. Here's the big difference between filtertrons and Gibson style humbuckers: the coils are closer together, and the coils are wired in parallel (usually). But the biggest difference is a much larger magnet and much smaller windings, giving much more top end.

They also have two sets of individually adjustable pole screws, whereas a PAF has slugs in one half.

They're also my favorite pickups.

But yeah, dimensionally they are a bit different than a regular Gibson humbucker, and I totally agree to not buy a Gretsch to try and shoehorn PAF clones into.

Ooh, yeah I loved my Reverend with 'Rev-Tron' pickups but had too many guitars so I got rid of them one with the least sentimental attachment. I'd love to get that sound back in my life, though. I feel like it would be perfect in the neck of my Tele but don't want to have to deal with routing the body. I see that TV Jones will put any of their pickups in a soapbar mount, though, so maybe I'll get one to throw in my other Reverend which once had 2 P-90s but now has a (P-90 sized) Jazzmaster PU in the neck. Jazzmaster neck / Filtertron bridge? I can get behind that.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


I want one of those center block Gretsches so bad. That green is perfect.

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Bread Dragon
Apr 7, 2012

Dirt posted:

Speaking of Gibson copies:

I want an ES-335, but I really don't want to drop 3k+ for a real Gibson one. And they don't seem to go on crazy end of the year blow out sales like Les Pauls and SGs do. Who makes the best copies? Ones that look like an ES-335, not with weirdo offset "horns".


The Eastwood Classic 6 is MSRP $500 new, available in a handful of colors, and probably solid quality.

Thanks for all the SG clones everybody. I knew about a few (but not all) of the really offset ones, I should have clarified I was looking for more symmetrical clones. I'll run some of those through craigslist every week, but I should probably wait until I can confidently spend the cash (surprise dentist bill!).

The SG was a weird flirtation for me anyway, usually my gear lust trends towards Danelectros and less common offsets. I was looking really hard at a Fender Toronado a while ago, but it wouldn't square with my budget at the time. Great guitar, though.

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