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DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Slavvy posted:

Hahahahahaha, oh you! You think people use indicators or look before changing lanes here? Regardless, I've managed to avoid being punted off in ~5 years of riding so I must be doing something right.

I mean, you've been at it long enough so you know this and obviously have internalized it, but I'll say it for everyone else: Whether people are using indicators or looking before changing lanes doesn't matter. You should have yourself in a defensive position and mindset and assume people will do dumb poo poo whether they signal it or not.

astrollinthepork posted:

What a loving disastrous night I had.

gently caress, man. Hope the re-building of your wallet goes smoothly.

Should there be an "in case of emergency" CA spreadsheet or something with people's phone numbers? I know that if one of y'all was in my area and was stuck needing gas or help I'd be in the truck with a can immediately if it was at all possible...

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

I mean, you've been at it long enough so you know this and obviously have internalized it, but I'll say it for everyone else: Whether people are using indicators or looking before changing lanes doesn't matter. You should have yourself in a defensive position and mindset and assume people will do dumb poo poo whether they signal it or not.

That's why they're swerves instead of crashes :ssh:

astrollinthepork posted:

poo poo.

Oh, that's just loving ratshit dude.

astrollinthepork posted:

Oh and when I got home I was way too exhausted to pull into the garage since it's in a separate building from my garage. I passed out and woke up to a storm so now it's out there sitting in the rain. gently caress.

I love how this is the punctuation mark to the entire story. Wallet? Incidental. Bike in the rain? Last nail in the coffin. :sympathy:

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

astrollinthepork posted:

What a loving disastrous night I had.

gently caress man, I hope the rest of your week goes better. :(

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

That really sucks. I guess the old idiom "when it rains it pours" holds true.

I've lost my phone once and have become paranoid about forgetting stuff since then, so I habitually check my pockets all the time to make sure my phone, wallet and keys are still where they should be.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

gently caress, man. Hope the re-building of your wallet goes smoothly.


I lost my wallet like 5 years ago in my driveway. Got buried under snow but I found it in the spring. The process is a bitch if I remember correctly. If my dumb rear end didn't leave my social security card in there it would be a lot easier. I put it in there for an interview 2 years ago and every time I saw it I thought "I better take that out" but I only saw it and thought about it when I was away from home. I've gotta go to the social security office and answer some questions about my identity to get a piece of paper that says "astrollinthepork's social security number is XXX-XX-XXXX." This costs like $10.

From there I think I can get my birth certificate which is another $20. With that in hand, I can get a new license for another $26 and my social security card. Times have been tough lately so I haven't had much money to play with, and all of it was in my wallet. Poof, gone. I've got a craigslist ad up and made calls to the county sheriffs in the area I lost it. I'm not expecting anything. Oh and the shifter rod and nuts are another $10 I don't have.


DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Should there be an "in case of emergency" CA spreadsheet or something with people's phone numbers? I know that if one of y'all was in my area and was stuck needing gas or help I'd be in the truck with a can immediately if it was at all possible...
Yeah me too and your suggestion made me think of creating a google spreadsheet but I can see it being abused. An open directory of CA phone numbers is a hell of a honeypot.


Slavvy posted:

Oh, that's just loving ratshit dude.


I love how this is the punctuation mark to the entire story. Wallet? Incidental. Bike in the rain? Last nail in the coffin. :sympathy:
"Oh and when I got home I was way too exhausted to pull into the garage since it's in a separate building from my garage."
Immanuel Kant built my apartment building :downs:

The real punctuation mark is going to be when I go outside in the morning and find a rusty chain that I spent 6 hours on cleaning each link individually along with the sprockets.

I've been going through some poo poo lately and have spent nearly every day of it loving around with the bike every free minute to stay sane. Lots of new parts, every bit of maintenance besides a valve check/adjustment, cleaning, waxing, and painting. I have almost got this bike to be perfect and it looked really good with the silvery bits repainted with a more metallic silver. The only flaws are some marks on the swing arm from the dumbass PO letting a wrench rotate around and gouge the aluminum when he loosened the axle and some chips on the front of the tank. Got the clutch and stator cover painted too. One side was hosed by a drop by the PO, the other side was hosed from a drop the first night I had the bike. By the way, I don't think they sell this in NZ but Duplicolor's "stainess steel" is an almost perfect match for the engine paint on a 919. The texture, the level of metallic flakes, and color are nearly perfect. It's almost imperceptibly more silver than the factory paint, but you wouldn't notice unless you were told. Even knowing that I can't really see a difference at all.

Anyway, these covers were loving flawless. Hours and hours of work went into sanding and prepping, including filling in the gouges I left in the stator cover. I was super happy with the results.

I'm saying this because I forgot a part of the story. When I pulled over after the trucker was flashing me, I had one of those 0 mph drops. I don't know wtf. I remember getting back on the bike and it sorta just, tipping over all slow like as my leg just gave way to it. And what happened? Took all of the weight on the stator cover and completely loving ruined all of the work I put into it. I guess a bright side is that all the damage happened to the stator cover and didn't touch anything else. And it also gives me more work to do to stay sane! But drat it I'm all out of paint! It's always something. Always.

If that drat trucker wasn't flashing me with a camera, I wouldn't have pulled over and dropped my bike. I wouldn't have asked the cop to follow me and got in a rush to get in front of him, leaving my pocket unzipped to drop my wallet. And at the end of the day, I still have no idea what the hell he was doing or why. Where is he?! What was he doing?! I'll never know!

Really though, it's all of my fault. I should have tightened up the shifter rod. I should have double checked that pockets were closed like I do EVERY TIME. The rod is on order and poo poo can be fixed but god I want to be in NC so bad right now. Still lots of summer left so I'll make this up hopefully.

Also thanks for all the sympathy guys.

astrollinthepork fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Jun 19, 2014

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

astrollinthepork posted:

If that drat trucker wasn't flashing me with a camera, [...] And at the end of the day, I still have no idea what the hell he was doing or why. Where is he?! What was he doing?! I'll never know!

Just a guess, but maybe he was trying to take your picture? Maybe he just likes bieks. :(

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS

HotCanadianChick posted:

Just a guess, but maybe he was trying to take your picture? Maybe he just likes bieks. :(

It was in the middle of the night and he did it like 20 times. Kinda hosed up to be using flash photography at a rider while you're driving in the dark.

chia
Dec 23, 2005

astrollinthepork posted:

It was in the middle of the night and he did it like 20 times. Kinda hosed up to be using flash photography at a rider while you're driving in the dark.

He saw you dropped your wallet and tried to get your attention, obviously.

edit: never mind you still had it at that point

ReformedNiceGuy
Feb 12, 2008

astrollinthepork posted:

... disaster ...

Man that sounds horrific, really sorry you had to go through all that. Rather than a phone number thing what about a Facebook group?

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

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Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


astrollinthepork posted:

It was in the middle of the night and he did it like 20 times. Kinda hosed up to be using flash photography at a rider while you're driving in the dark.

He was probably just taking dick pics.

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

astrollinthepork posted:

It was in the middle of the night and he did it like 20 times. Kinda hosed up to be using flash photography at a rider while you're driving in the dark.

I've had that happen to me twice. It's weird.

e: Then again I live in SE Texas and ride a supermoto. People around here aren't really used to seeing people wearing gear, much less a street legal dirtbike.

M42
Nov 12, 2012


drat pork, that sounds like a mess, sorry you had to go through that. If we're gonna do some kind of contact thingy, I agree a (closed/private) FB group would be way better than a spreadsheet.

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram

Safety Dance posted:

visor down -> glasses fog
visor up -> glasses get wet

e. It was raining hard enough that it stung at 30. Riding in heavy rain is a completely different dynamic.

The glasses thing sucks so hard. Can you wear contacts? Contacts + a breath box has done wonders for me in the rain. As long as I'm moving, no fog on the visor and no glasses to worry about. Also, you are right about riding in heavy rain being a completely different dynamic.


astrollinthepork posted:

gently caress.

Dude, very sorry to hear that. What sounded like what should have been an awesome trip turned into a hellish misadventure. :sympathy:

And I'm up for a closed private FB group. My garage, etc. is always open to CA posters.

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker

adary posted:

I'm so glad I live in a place that has 9 dry months and 3 months of "it might rain a little" each year. Last winter we had a grand total of 11 rainy days (5 of which were actually pretty extreme), but otherwise there was no need for any rain gear.

Don't remind me. :(

astrollinthepork posted:

What a loving disastrous night I had.

I can't do much from over here, but I'm sending good vibes your way!

adary
Feb 9, 2014

meh

KARMA! posted:

Don't remind me. :(


On the other hand the constant problem I face here is extreme heat in the summer. Its always above 30 degrees C, and often goes over 40. No matter how thin and webby my jacket is, i'm always hot and sweating and have to carry a lot of water even for shorter rides.

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

I can't beat astrollinthepark's tale of woe but I had a somewhat similarly lame day last week. I had just gotten a new phone off-contract from eBay on Monday. Not 48 hours later, on my Wednesday morning commute, I arrived at work to find my jacket pocket empty. It must have fallen out on the ride in. I tried the "Find My Phone" thing and it didn't work, and calling it went straight to voicemail. The thing is, it's a giant bright yellow Nokia phablet, so I figured, it should be blatantly obvious sitting on the shoulder of the highway or something. I spent all morning retracing my commute 3 or 4 times trying to at least find the remains. It's like it fell in a black hole somewhere. A $400 lesson in making sure stuff is secured in my pockets, I guess.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

MoraleHazard posted:

The glasses thing sucks so hard. Can you wear contacts? Contacts + a breath box has done wonders for me in the rain. As long as I'm moving, no fog on the visor and no glasses to worry about. Also, you are right about riding in heavy rain being a completely different dynamic.


Yeah, no can do on the contact lens front. I've been tossing around the idea of getting some cheap clear-lens safety glasses made, treating them with Rain-X, and then keeping them on my bike for just such an occasion.

I'd also be down for a private facebook group.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
Sorry pork that is a bad time :[ I'd be down for a support network! Though I doubt my neck of the country gets much traffic

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

Yeah that's really harsh man, sorry to hear that.

I'm down for the Facebook group or whatever, but I don't know how many goons are in Arizona, and I literally only own a bike so there's only so much I can do.

For a rant, I was donging it up in my neighborhood last night and turned a corner and there was an suv coming WITH ITS LIGHTS OFF so I swung to right and back to the left so I wouldn't hit this parked truck. My foot was under the gear shifter and caught the ground, grinding off the tip off my redwings :(

Honestly I could've just slowed down after turning and been fine, but I was feeling a bit wild.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Safety Dance posted:

Yeah, no can do on the contact lens front. I've been tossing around the idea of getting some cheap clear-lens safety glasses made, treating them with Rain-X, and then keeping them on my bike for just such an occasion.

I'd also be down for a private facebook group.

Get a pinlock on your visor and exhale through your nose - I wear glasses and never have a problem with them misting up other than when I'm stopped for an extended period of time.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
There are a poo poo ton of goons in Arizona. I know I'm one of many in the Phoenix area, Holdbrooks visits the area sometimes, and if you include Tucson and Flagstaff the number triples or something.

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

:eyepop: I didn't realize there were that many.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
I'm down for the closed facebook group. Of course I'm probably going to be useless on it considering Saint Sanchezz performs miracles in the LA area and Pope Z3n has the SF Bay Area, but I'm still happy to help if I can.

ReformedNiceGuy
Feb 12, 2008
I'm probably the only CA'er in England's frozen north (Leeds) but I'd be up for lending a hand to anyone stranded up here.

Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003

I'm down for the CA rescue group.
I've got a garage and tools enough for most repairs and a friend a few miles up the road has a machine shop, welders, tire machine along with everything else at his place. If one of us can't get a bike back on the road it's never getting back there again.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

Safety Dance posted:

visor down -> glasses fog
visor up -> glasses get wet

MoraleHazard posted:

The glasses thing sucks so hard. Can you wear contacts? Contacts + a breath box has done wonders for me in the rain

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Get a pinlock on your visor and exhale through your nose - I wear glasses and never have a problem with them misting up other than when I'm stopped for an extended period of time.

Cheap helmets, or at least mine is suffering (even with the breath guard)
- Standard England weather; fogs up if you exhale through your mouth or too heavy from your nose, it's like a crazy game of holding your breath
- Standard England winter; the visor should never, ever be clicked shut

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒
I am interested in this Facebook thing as well.

As an old man, I like to pretend I don't know what "Facebook" or "Vine" is, but I know.

I know.

apatite
Dec 2, 2006

Got yer back, Jack

captainOrbital posted:

I am interested in this Facebook thing as well.

As an old man, I like to pretend I don't know what "Facebook" or "Vine" is, but I know.

I know.

Do you know how dumb I felt, just now, typing into Google "What is a vine?" ??

DO YOU KNOW?

M42
Nov 12, 2012


Trying to imagine a goon vine rescue group. Show us the problem and your location in 6 seconds or less, or help ain't coming :haw:

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

Slavvy posted:

Yeah I got one of those. It's only waterproof for the first fifteen-odd minutes and after that it just holds the water in. But that's beside the point; my jacket has a waterproof membrane. Nothing I can do about soaking wet gloves.

If it seeps it's not pvc, that stuff is nonporous, they make sewer drains out off the stuff. I've done hundreds of miles at a time though rain and a couple high plains thunderstorms in my cheapo pvc suit and it keeps everything it covers bone dry. My gloves, helmet, and boots on the other hand are a different discussion.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Super Slash posted:

Cheap helmets, or at least mine is suffering (even with the breath guard)
- Standard England weather; fogs up if you exhale through your mouth or too heavy from your nose, it's like a crazy game of holding your breath
- Standard England winter; the visor should never, ever be clicked shut

I have a shoei with a pinlock visor. I can shut the visor in summer; in winter I can only shut it if I'm doing 100km/h or more otherwise it fogs up. My glasses only fog up in heavy rain or fog.


clutchpuck posted:

If it seeps it's not pvc, that stuff is nonporous, they make sewer drains out off the stuff. I've done hundreds of miles at a time though rain and a couple high plains thunderstorms in my cheapo pvc suit and it keeps everything it covers bone dry. My gloves, helmet, and boots on the other hand are a different discussion.

It isn't the pvc that seeps, it's the lovely Chinese seams. It was 100% waterproof when I bought it.

Destrad0
Nov 26, 2005
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-destrad0.gif"><br>Stealing a cool avatar one piece at a time.

Slavvy posted:

I have a shoei with a pinlock visor. I can shut the visor in summer; in winter I can only shut it if I'm doing 100km/h or more otherwise it fogs up. My glasses only fog up in heavy rain or fog.

I was going to complain how I can fog up my Shoei in an Australian summer, but it doesn't have a pinlock and I have discovered that my Arai's pinlock gasket must have a gap in it because I have had it fog up recently on a really cold day.
Now I just feel bad for you.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Today coming home I encountered two red-light runners. One was a taxi driver talking on his phone in his prius who went really late and ran the red turning-across light at a major intersection. I was going straight and my light turned green as he was mostly across. rear end in a top hat, but no big deal.

The other was a guy who blew through an intersection in his nissan tiida. It was a fairly blind intersection between a main road and a secondary road. This wasn't a case where he gunned it really late to catch a yellow and just had poo poo judgement. This was a case where I had already gotten halfway across the intersection and had to slam the hyosung's lovely brakes to avoid t-boning him. He made no effort to slow down whatsoever and I only have this vague image of a guy deathgripping the wheel while completely unaware of his surroundings.

gently caress that guy. Drive off a bridge you cock. What if I had been the average clueless bumblefuck driving a car?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Super Slash posted:

Cheap helmets, or at least mine is suffering (even with the breath guard)
- Standard England weather; fogs up if you exhale through your mouth or too heavy from your nose, it's like a crazy game of holding your breath
- Standard England winter; the visor should never, ever be clicked shut

I ride all year long in standard English weather.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
I'm conflicted on this one boyos, your call:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/20/jury-finds-woman-guilty-for-causing-deaths-of-two-bikers-when-she-stopped-to-save-ducks-on-highway/

I'm curious as to how the motorcyclist didn't see the stopped car in time to at least apply some heavy braking, maybe it was around a blind bend? But I think you have to be going pretty loving fast to lift the back of a car up with impact, no?

Obviously the girl is at fault here for stopping the middle of the road with no hazards but I can't help but feel like both parties share the blame.

Such a drat shame all that had to happen over some stupid animals.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
600ish pounds of bike + potential rider weight will pretty easily bump up the rear of a car, even at 30mph. If you hit it at freeway speeds...yeah, that's gonna happen.

People are responsible for maintaining a proper flow of traffic. Getting out of your car on the freeway to rescue ducks with no hazards where the road isn't wide enough to move to the shoulder is a terrible, terrible, idea. if the car is in park with the ebrake on, or worse, turned off, there will be little to no indication from the back that it is stopped, so it's drat easy to nail the poo poo out of it at a closing distance of ~60mph.

The riders probably could have avoided the accident, but the woman is 100% at fault.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
I'm curious about what kind of gear the two Harley riders were wearing when they crashed. The article doesn't mention anything about that, but I have to wonder if they only had on brain buckets. Obviously this doesn't excuse the driver, she is a loving moron.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.
So, I've always thought it best to pick my feet up when taking off as soon as the bike is moving fast enough to have balance (effectively immediately) and to keep my feet on the pegs until the bike is stopped. I've seen too many idiots on scooters in my hometown who keep their feet hovering over the street, and on a few occasions I've seen people hit a pothole or something, catch their foot on the ground and drop it.

Lately, though, I've been noticing a lot of dudes on bikes - fast bikes, big bikes, nice bikes - hovering over the ground or kind of toe dragging for quite some time before picking their feet up.

Am I missing something? What's "general accepted procedure" here?

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

So, I've always thought it best to pick my feet up when taking off as soon as the bike is moving fast enough to have balance (effectively immediately) and to keep my feet on the pegs until the bike is stopped. I've seen too many idiots on scooters in my hometown who keep their feet hovering over the street, and on a few occasions I've seen people hit a pothole or something, catch their foot on the ground and drop it.

Lately, though, I've been noticing a lot of dudes on bikes - fast bikes, big bikes, nice bikes - hovering over the ground or kind of toe dragging for quite some time before picking their feet up.

Am I missing something? What's "general accepted procedure" here?

I think the CA opinion is that foot draggers are idiots? Personally if I don't feel comfortable putting my feet up immediately (if the car ahead is dragging its knuckles or something) I'll just start power-walking like they have you do in the MSF. It's a babby thing to do, but it works and doesn't look quite as stupid as dragging your feet

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M. Night Skymall
Mar 22, 2012

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

So, I've always thought it best to pick my feet up when taking off as soon as the bike is moving fast enough to have balance (effectively immediately) and to keep my feet on the pegs until the bike is stopped. I've seen too many idiots on scooters in my hometown who keep their feet hovering over the street, and on a few occasions I've seen people hit a pothole or something, catch their foot on the ground and drop it.

Lately, though, I've been noticing a lot of dudes on bikes - fast bikes, big bikes, nice bikes - hovering over the ground or kind of toe dragging for quite some time before picking their feet up.

Am I missing something? What's "general accepted procedure" here?

The consensus here is definitely that you should be doing track stands at all times and only people who can't ride touch the ground. Motogp racers drag a foot for like 20 yards in some cases when they start a race so it probably doesn't matter and you can do what you feel comfortable with. If it causes you to drop your bike you probably did something wrong.

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