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Riptor posted:I'm so torn because there's nothing I would love to see more than the inevitable mental break that Romney would suffer should he win the nomination again and then lose the general once more, but the potential of him becoming President is just not worth it in my mind
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Before the past few days I didn't really know much about Schweitzer other than that he was a sort of folksy populist democrat. I now regret that I had any hope or enthusiasm for him.
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Jun 19, 2014 22:14
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Maybe Schweitzer is running for Onion Biden?
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Jun 19, 2014 22:15
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Considering his cable gig right now and seeming ability to say the most audacious stuff possible to take him out of running for any office in DC (remember when he was going to replace Baucus, until he came out and said in so many words that DC smells like poo poo?). He's a gadfly that's entertaining himself at this point.
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Jun 19, 2014 22:31
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I seriously can't believe he called Eric cantor a mincing homo.
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Jun 19, 2014 22:59
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Schweitzer/Biden '16. I'm on board. 
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andrew smash posted:I seriously can't believe he called Eric cantor a mincing homo. EDIT: By no means should people stop joking about steamy love triangles between Graham, McCain and Lieberman, though, because the jokes are often legit funny when contextual.
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Isn't the situation with Graham that he's pretty much openly closeted? Something comparable to Janet Napolitano. They're not out but it is pretty much quietly accepted fact (Anderson Cooper and Shep come to mind as well) This would be in contrast to Marcus Bachmann who claims not to be gay but often get people joking about him. Cantor is really weird because I am pretty sure all these years Ive never heard anyone speculate that Cantor is even sexual, let alone gay. Maybe Schweitzer is privy to DC gossip most aren't, but I'm doubting it.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:02
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ReindeerF posted:Has anyone ever thrown a fit at the deluge of Graham jokes that go on around here? No. Don't tempt fate, when the anti-anti-gay derails come they're really unbearable.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:09
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Berke Negri posted:Isn't the situation with Graham that he's pretty much openly closeted? Something comparable to Janet Napolitano. They're not out but it is pretty much quietly accepted fact (Anderson Cooper and Shep come to mind as well)
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DynamicSloth posted:Not quite the same with the latter two, Anderson Cooper is out and Shep Smith would by all accounts be willing to if he wasn't contractually obligated by Roger Ailes to stay in the closet. I meant before Cooper was out and before the leaking of how awful Roger Ailes is as a human being to his gay employees.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:28
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Unlike Cantor, Bachmann, and Perry, Graham has never been in any relationship that he's discussed publicly.
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DynamicSloth posted:Not quite the same with the latter two, Anderson Cooper is out and Shep Smith would by all accounts be willing to if he wasn't contractually obligated by Roger Ailes to stay in the closet. Berke Negri posted:I meant before Cooper was out and before the leaking of how awful Roger Ailes is as a human being to his gay employees.
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Jun 20, 2014 01:11
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Shep Smith still gets paid oodles of money for doing less work. Might be worth it. Also his Tell All book on Fox News is going to be great once he retires.
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Jun 20, 2014 01:53
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Joementum posted:Mittmentum Mormentum
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ReindeerF posted:I dunno, the entire world, some of the gay press and this forum constantly joke about Lindsey Graham being a closeted gay dude who has a huge crush on John McCain entirely because of his mannerisms, so making fun of Southern dandies for being closet queens because of their effeminate mannerisms isn't exactly an OMG moment in reality. Has anyone ever thrown a fit at the deluge of Graham jokes that go on around here? No. I think the issue is that it's so out of left field for Cantor, who isn't publicly viewed that way as Graham is, and then he goes on to talk about his gaydar calibration rate, etc, heh. Add all the separate comments about gaydar and Southern gay men and women with their skirts over their knees together and, yeah, Schweitzer really stepped in it for absolutely no gain. Stupid of him. Yes, but no one in this thread is being discussed about as a potential presidential candidate.
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Kobayashi posted:Yes, but no one in this thread is being discussed about as a potential presidential candidate. Including Schweitzer, apparently.
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fool_of_sound posted:Mormentum They're having a Mitt fit.
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The list of potential GOP nominees/losers to Hillary Clinton is getting shorter. I guess Bobby Jindal could still give it a whirl...
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AYC posted:The list of potential GOP nominees/losers to Hillary Clinton is getting shorter. I guess Bobby Jindal could still give it a whirl... Jindal is absolutely toxic even in his home state. He just gave away the rights for Louisianans to sue BP for the 2010 oil spill.
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Kobayashi posted:Yes, but no one in this thread is being discussed about as a potential presidential candidate. It's going to be amazing in 20 years when someone could though.
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Riptor posted:I'm so torn because there's nothing I would love to see more than the inevitable mental break that Romney would suffer should he win the nomination again and then lose the general once more, but the potential of him becoming President is just not worth it in my mind I sincerely want Romney to be president more than anyone else in that poll though. Imagine the potential for a Rand Paul presidency, should he get the nom (he won't, but neither will Romney). Lol.
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hobbesmaster posted:It's going to be amazing in 20 years when someone could though. By that time there will be some kind of general amnesty for anything you said, wrote or did, and any pictures taken, before you entered politics, or else elections will only be won by people raised by wolves.
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Chantilly Say posted:By that time there will be some kind of general amnesty for anything you said, wrote or did, and any pictures taken, before you entered politics, or else elections will only be won by people raised by wolves. Vote Hendricks for President: He'll tear the throat out of big government
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Chantilly Say posted:By that time there will be some kind of general amnesty for anything you said, wrote or did, and any pictures taken, before you entered politics, or else elections will only be won by people raised by wolves. Yeah, I mean like if someone was part of something in High School called the "Choom Gang" and it was public knowledge they'd never get elected today.
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computer parts posted:Yeah, I mean like if someone was part of something in High School called the "Choom Gang" and it was public knowledge they'd never get elected today. L A T E R S
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Chantilly Say posted:By that time there will be some kind of general amnesty for anything you said, wrote or did, and any pictures taken, before you entered politics, or else elections will only be won by people raised by wolves. There's precedent I suppose. See thread title.
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DynamicSloth posted:Not quite the same with the latter two, Anderson Cooper is out and Shep Smith would by all accounts be willing to if he wasn't contractually obligated by Roger Ailes to stay in the closet. Welp, the creepy guy who looks like Leland Palmer is gay. To be gay and be a featured anchor on Fox News seems like you are destined for a special level of hell, if your life isn't already.
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Does Fox ever book the Log Cabin Republicans? I think I did hear one on Hannity's radio show once. His basic gist was "yes, but if we don't beat the Islamofascists, my rights won't matter anyway!"
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De Nomolos posted:Does Fox ever book the Log Cabin Republicans? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALM7gPnB8c I doubt they show up much, because look at Bill keep the narrative going.
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Berke Negri posted:Vaguely for single payer. Lied about wanting to dismantle NAFTA. Was black.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Wait, wanting NAFTA renegotiated is a liberal thing? I thought we were in favor of free trade? I don't even know anymore. I just show up and let posters not named SedanChair tell me what positions I'm supposed to have. It is still a leftist holdover from the 90s, Obama got busted for talking on the camaign trail saying he would do something about it (ARE MANUFACTURING) but then recorded talking to some Canadian official (IIRC) that he was like "i just gotta say this on the campaign trail, of course were not changing nafta thats dumb"
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NAFTA is bad for local manufacturing but it's been 20 years and most of the jobs that relocated to Mexico are now in China where a repeal of NAFTA wouldn't effect them.
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It would be great if we could push a message like "If you want cheap disposable crap that breaks when you look at it wrong, buy Chinese. If you want to help put Americans to work and buy something durable and high-quality, cough up a little extra and buy American." Of course you would have to convince American executives to respect their labor force and invest in quality so people might actually want to work for them and buy the products, so this will never happen.
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skaboomizzy posted:It would be great if we could push a message like "If you want cheap disposable crap that breaks when you look at it wrong, buy Chinese. If you want to help put Americans to work and buy something durable and high-quality, cough up a little extra and buy American." You know that "Jap Crap" used to be a thing too? Then it turned out that they can increase their quality beyond even what good American product quality was.
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Yeah the quality difference is gone, sorry. Just from personal experience, Baofeng radios and Lepai amplifiers are both really great pieces of kit. The last thing I bought with "Made in USA" on it? A lovely plastic pitcher that I bought to tide me over until I can find one I really like.
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People continuously forget that America manufactures more than it has before, even with its decreasing amount of manufacturing laborers, Thats why Obamas ARE FACTORTIES is never a reality, that automation apocalypse has already occurred twenty years ago, The real question isnt The Wire "We used to make things in this country" how do we get back to thaat? We make more than we ever did before, what do you do when you cant just base labor on building poo poo.
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Berke Negri posted:People continuously forget that America manufactures more than it has before, even with its decreasing amount of manufacturing laborers, Thats why Obamas ARE FACTORTIES is never a reality, that automation apocalypse has already occurred twenty years ago, The real question isnt The Wire "We used to make things in this country" how do we get back to thaat? We make more than we ever did before, what do you do when you cant just base labor on building poo poo. A large part of what America makes are Capital goods (so like farming poo poo) not consumer goods, and that's the main disconnect with the "buy American" schtick.
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Berke Negri posted:People continuously forget that America manufactures more than it has before, even with its decreasing amount of manufacturing laborers, Thats why Obamas ARE FACTORTIES is never a reality, that automation apocalypse has already occurred twenty years ago, The real question isnt The Wire "We used to make things in this country" how do we get back to thaat? We make more than we ever did before, what do you do when you cant just base labor on building poo poo. Baltimore has some ambitious plans to deal with urban blight, unemployment, and food deserts all at the same time with urban farming. Small-batch artisanal crap for yuppies can make this country great again.
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computer parts posted:A large part of what America makes are Capital goods (so like farming poo poo) not consumer goods, and that's the main disconnect with the "buy American" schtick. Not to mention with onshoring back to Mexico (shocker now that gas isnt dirt cheap it is easier to just truck it across state lines than to ship it across the pacific) it brings into question what "local jobs" are if half a family is in one country and the rest is in manufacturing in the other. This is the true future of globalization. Less "what about the factory in Trenton?" than "Kino, Sonora" it will be extremely disruptive, but in the end that is the way forward.
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