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swickles posted:Wait, how hasn't MV banned you yet? I think you have me confused with someone else, since I have no clue what you're talking about.
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Blitz7x posted:The Washington Oilers Fits with our foreign policy. I think someone already suggested Washington Whigs but it's good. I has alliteration, both current parties can lay claim to its history if they care, and you can get mascots in the old white wigs and such. got any sevens fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Luceo posted:I think you have me confused with someone else, since I have no clue what you're talking about. I'm pretty sure that thinking wearing a fedora while performing in marching band is cool is a bannable offence.
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shiksa posted:I'm pretty sure that thinking wearing a fedora while performing in marching band is cool is a bannable offence. Marching band alone is enough to get on MV's bad side...
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shiksa posted:I'm pretty sure that thinking wearing a fedora while performing in marching band is cool is a bannable offence. It was 20 years ago 
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Blitz7x posted:The Washington Oilers Them's fightin' words.
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Washington Tomahawks. Tomahawks has a nice sharp snap and still retains all the Indian connections. E: [img]http://i.imgur.com/tfkqdo2.png][/img] Darth Brooks fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Luceo posted:It was 20 years ago So your current fedoras are more fashionable?
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Darth Brooks posted:Washington Tomahawks. Could get Raytheon on as a sponsor there too I bet.
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Breaky posted:Could get Raytheon on as a sponsor there too I bet. Could also do the Washington Apaches and just have all kinds of war machines as their mascots. Washing War Machines works too, get some Marvel tie ins.
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How come the army doesn't get sued for naming all their helicopters after Indian tribes?
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Komet posted:How come the army doesn't get sued for naming all their helicopters after Indian tribes? The Army doesn't name anything, Boeing makes the Apache and the Tomahawk (which isn't named after a tribe but weapon used by some Native American tribes) is made by Raytheon.
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Komet posted:How come the army doesn't get sued for naming all their helicopters after Indian tribes? Who has gotten sued for naming a team after a tribe? I'm not familiar with the 'Redskins' tribe.
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Komet posted:How come the army doesn't get sued for naming all their helicopters after Indian tribes? Because it's  as gently caress
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Mrit posted:Who has gotten sued for naming a team after a tribe? I'm not familiar with the 'Redskins' tribe. Did anyone read the Mornings Star institutes testimony that brought this back up? They are against all Indian stereotypes, it's not about tribes it's about the fact that they do not want to be a mascot. http://www.indian.senate.gov/sites/default/files/upload/files/Suzan-Harjo-testimony.pdf
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Made the mistake of looking at a couple reddit threads on the redskins sub. It's so bad over there there's posters openly praising Dan Snyder as a great owner for not backing down. Jesus christ. e: quote:Man I love Dan Snyder and his willingness to fight through all this crap more and more everyday. A name change will not happen under his ownership, period. quote:Dan has been nothing but a stellar owner for the past several years. He realized he needed to step back and hand the team over to professionals and he did so. I hold no grudge and look forward to the future. shiksa fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Parlett316 posted:Did anyone read the Mornings Star institutes testimony that brought this back up? They are against all Indian stereotypes, it's not about tribes it's about the fact that they do not want to be a mascot. My gut feeling is that it will probably be a more uphill battle in cases where the name isn't an outright slur.
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shiksa posted:Made the mistake of looking at...reddit I think I find your problem.
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Parlett316 posted:Did anyone read the Mornings Star institutes testimony that brought this back up? They are against all Indian stereotypes, it's not about tribes it's about the fact that they do not want to be a mascot. That's a lot more controversial than just open and shut "Redskin" though even among native american communities. I doubt you'll see the Chiefs name getting changed in your lifetime.
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Volkerball posted:That's a lot more controversial than just open and shut "Redskin" though even among native american communities. I doubt you'll see the Chiefs name getting changed in your lifetime. They will all go once the Redskin name falls because they will have more and more public support.
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shiksa posted:Made the mistake of looking at a couple reddit threads And now all your bad posts make sense.
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The Chiefs are named after an old mayor who was real popular. Hunt actually wanted to keep the Texans name which would have been funny.
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swickles posted:The Army doesn't name anything, Boeing makes the Apache and the Tomahawk (which isn't named after a tribe but weapon used by some Native American tribes) is made by Raytheon. They do name them. The Army names all its helicopters after Native American tribes and chiefs, according to Army Regulation 70-28. Assigning "popular names" is part of the acquisition process. That's how we have Blackhawks, Chinooks, Apaches, Iroquois, Cayuses, Kiowas, and Lakotas. Generally speaking, it keeps going because it is definitely a tribute. Its my understanding that the Apache are proud that there's a badass helicopter named after them.
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Niwrad posted:The Chiefs are named after an old mayor who was real popular. Hunt actually wanted to keep the Texans name which would have been funny. Chiefs is funny to me because Chief is something you call someone when you can't remember their name. It's like naming your team the Kansas City Buddies
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I would also be proud of having my history of genocide being stapled to the military's cutting edge of nation building.
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Alouicious posted:It's like naming your team the Kansas City Buddies Now there's a team name
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Doppelganger posted:Isn't part of the resistance because Washington fans want their rivalry with the Cowboys to "match" the team names? Washington Marshals.
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Niwrad posted:The Chiefs are named after an old mayor who was real popular. Hunt actually wanted to keep the Texans name which would have been funny. Also the word Chief doesn't have poo poo to do with Native Americans unless the team specifically starts attaching Native imagery to it, which they have done. Chief can just as easily be a Celtic, Germanic, or West African leader. That is one reason most of us on TFF don't find it offensive and people who compare it to the motherfuckingRedskinsareyoufuckingkiddingme are being disingenuous.
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Eifert Posting posted:Washington Marshals. That would be legitimately good but of course would involve a complete overhaul of the color scheme.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That would be legitimately good but of course would involve a complete overhaul of the color scheme. The Detroit Lions: Hawaiian blue and Silver.
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Chichevache posted:Also the word Chief doesn't have poo poo to do with Native Americans unless the team specifically starts attaching Native imagery to it, which they have done. Chief can just as easily be a Celtic, Germanic, or West African leader. That is one reason most of us on TFF don't find it offensive and people who compare it to the motherfuckingRedskinsareyoufuckingkiddingme are being disingenuous. It's not up to you to decide what is or is not offensive to a group of people.
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Parlett316 posted:It's not up to you to decide what is or is not offensive to a group of people. This is true, but have the Chiefs experienced any of the flack the Skins have?
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There was some stuff the Chiefs used to do forever ago that they backed off on, Warpaint (the horse Eric Berry is terrified of) only came back a few years ago. Back in the 70s it was ridden by a dude (named Bob Johnson) dressed up in full stereotypical indian gear complete with a huge headdress. These days it's just a cheerleader riding a horse. Things have improved a little since: Given the history of how far they've gone with the whole imagery thing I wouldn't blame someone for being offended and they have taken some flack for that, but these days it's down to an arrowhead and a girl on a horse for the most part. Like I said earlier if they change it I'm fine with that, but I'm also pretty secure in laughing at Redskins fans for comparing the two.
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http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/06/18/amanda-blackhorse-washington-nfl/10830269/ http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/08/one-of-the-plaintiffs-explains-claim-against-redskins-trademark/ I'm not comparing the two, the people who are offended are.
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Chris Cooley, you used to be a lovable goof, now you're just an ignorant Dan Snyder talking head http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...g-the-chargers/ yes, the chargers, well done sir, you have bested all of the arguments, why didn't we think of that before. -- Just kinda goes to show that the team and the players don't actually talk to real Native Americans, so anything talking about "pride" is just bullshit.
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Grittybeard posted:There was some stuff the Chiefs used to do forever ago that they backed off on, Warpaint (the horse Eric Berry is terrified of) only came back a few years ago. Back in the 70s it was ridden by a dude (named Bob Johnson) dressed up in full stereotypical indian gear complete with a huge headdress. These days it's just a cheerleader riding a horse. Things have improved a little since: c'mon bro, Kansas City Buddies. eh? EH?
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Parlett316 posted:http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/06/18/amanda-blackhorse-washington-nfl/10830269/ I didn't say it there, but yeah the fans have taken off with the whole deal and it's probably gone too far. It's just advantageous enough to not be named an actual for real flat out slur that I'll laugh at you until you change your name first.
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