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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Watch The Stephen King Movie With The Trucks.

Between TSKMWTT and Pet Sematary using motor vehicles as an ill omen or bringer of misery, I wonder if King had some kind of prescience with the whole getting run over by a van thing.

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LittleFuryThings
Jan 11, 2012
Naked Lunch is one of the most awkward movies to be watching as your college roommate walks in, let me tell you. I feel like the awkwardness between us can always be traced back to that moment.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Short story. I don't think anyone is allowed to make a Dollar Baby of it.

King does apocalypses really well — The Stand, The Mist, Trucks' dieseltopia. Even half-baked stuff like The Langoliers.

morestuff fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jun 30, 2014

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

FishBulb posted:

No I don't think so but you can still like it if you want.

I do like the art in it (not that I had any idea about the covers), and most of the script isn't really all that bad but that big dumb twist is just so big and dumb....

I see nothing wrong with the twist, I think it's pretty awesome in fact. It's a big divergence from the film, but it's also a great way of literalising how Tom Stall ran away from his problems and left some crucial things within his past life unfinished. His best friend, like his alter ego, is suspended in living death.

TwistedLadder posted:

I know you're probably not speaking of an actual list you keep updated, but I've been getting more into horror lately and I'd be curious to see what your top 10 or 20 horror movies of the '80s are, so I can see which ones I've seen and add the others to my to-watch list.

I'm too tired now but I'll whip one up tomorrow. I like lists.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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morestuff posted:

King does apocalypses really well. The Stand, The Mist, Truck's dieseltopia.

The first chapter of Cell was loving awesome, and the better 1/3 of the Dark Tower books involved marching through a hellish wasteland.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Its true that Cronenberg really did say that, and he doesn't seem to really respect comic adaptations. At the same time I don't see how he could not know the source for his own movie.

Everyone go listen to the score for Cronenberg's Crash. I'm quite sad he never adapted its sister novel The Atrocity Exhibition.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

morestuff posted:

King does apocalypses really well — The Stand, The Mist, Truck's dieseltopia. Even half-baked stuff like The Langoliers.

Or, in my opinion, his best apocalypse story, The End Of The Whole Mess.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Lord Krangdar posted:

Its true that Cronenberg really did say that, and he doesn't seem to really respect comic adaptations. At the same time I don't see how he could not know the source for his own movie.

Everyone go listen to the score for Cronenberg's Crash. I'm quite sad he never adapted its sister novel The Atrocity Exhibition.

Didn't Herzog say he had never even heard of the original Bad Lieutenant after Abel Ferrara got all pissy about BL:PoC:NO?

edit:
Studio: "Werner, we want to make a follow up to Port of Call: New Orleans that takes place in another city. Any thoughts?"
Herzog: "Just keep adding colons to the title, it will astound the reader and confuse them. It will bring them down into the brutality of this world."
Studio: "Okay, we're thinking 'Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call: New Orleans: A New Town: Los Angeles."
Herzog: "We must not stop with colons. It is imperative that the audience understand the banal brutality of a title and that it crushes them."

Baron von Eevl fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jun 30, 2014

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I see nothing wrong with the twist, I think it's pretty awesome in fact. It's a big divergence from the film, but it's also a great way of literalising how Tom Stall ran away from his problems and left some crucial things within his past life unfinished. His best friend, like his alter ego, is suspended in living death.

Well that's a more generous reading than I would give it but I'm glad it works for you.

Have you read any of the other Paradox Press books from that era? I've only read that one and Road to Perdition (which is pretty much just Lone Wolf and Cub honestly, but the art is great great great)

CloseFriend
Aug 21, 2002

Un malheur ne vient jamais seul.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I see nothing wrong with the twist, I think it's pretty awesome in fact. It's a big divergence from the film, but it's also a great way of literalising how Tom Stall ran away from his problems and left some crucial things within his past life unfinished. His best friend, like his alter ego, is suspended in living death.
That was the most hosed-up thing I've ever seen in a comic book. It gave me nightmares for years.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Baron von Eevl posted:

Didn't Herzog say he had never even heard of the original Bad Lieutenant after Abel Ferrara got all pissy about BL:PoC:NO?

Its weird in both cases because don't directors watch their own films? Don't they approve the credit sequences?

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

YTotD is a homoerotic interpretative dance claymation short film retelling of the Iliad, PEACE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUfdxJn02U

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Give every movie generous readings.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Lord Krangdar posted:

Its weird in both cases because don't directors watch their own films? Don't they approve the credit sequences?

They could be done with their work on a film for ages before they see it with finished credits...

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Baron von Eevl posted:

Didn't Herzog say he had never even heard of the original Bad Lieutenant after Abel Ferrara got all pissy about BL:PoC:NO?

edit:
Studio: "Werner, we want to make a follow up to Port of Call: New Orleans that takes place in another city. Any thoughts?"
Herzog: "Just keep adding colons to the title, it will astound the reader and confuse them. It will bring them down into the brutality of this world."
Studio: "Okay, we're thinking 'Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call: New Orleans: A New Town: Los Angeles."
Herzog: "We must not stop with colons. It is imperative that the audience understand the banal brutality of a title and that it crushes them."

I choose to believe he was just getting at Abel for impotently raging.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Lord Krangdar posted:

Its weird in both cases because don't directors watch their own films? Don't they approve the credit sequences?

The impression that I got from Herzog is that he was either given the script or someone higher up tacked the "Bad Lieutenant" name on to the movie "Port of Call: New Orleans."

edit: or this^

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

penismightier posted:

YTotD is a homoerotic interpretative dance claymation short film retelling of the Iliad, PEACE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUfdxJn02U

That's some stunning animation.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I choose to believe he was just getting at Abel for impotently raging.

Yeah the whole "I've never heard of Abel Ferrara" thing seems too ice-cold to be true.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Herzog Chat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xQyQnXrLb0

A YTotD for the last 5 minutes of the day.

A HYTotDftLFMotD

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Yeah the whole "I've never heard of Abel Ferrara" thing seems too ice-cold to be true.

It's easy to see a million ways he could've graciously deflected but he chose Ether.

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

morestuff posted:

That's some stunning animation.

I have no idea why it's a claymation interpretive dance but I'm so glad it is. What a weird beautiful little thing.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

penismightier posted:

I have no idea why it's a claymation interpretive dance but I'm so glad it is. What a weird beautiful little thing.

Which makes me think either it was really expensive to make or a few people were working on this for a long time.

Maarak
May 23, 2007

"Go for it!"
The dehumanization of the Trojans as minotaurs is an interesting touch.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011
Did anyone watch the all-monkey silent Western I posted yesterday? Because holy poo poo I still can't believe that exists.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Steve Yun posted:

Anyone wanna defend Cronenberg to me? Videodrome is artless and guileless. There's no cleverness to its message. It's just clumsy, blunt symbolism mashed in the audience's face.

Just out of curiosity what do you think the message is?

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Which makes me think either it was really expensive to make or a few people were working on this for a long time.

Channel 4 backed it. It's spearheaded by this guy: http://www.barrypurves.com/Achilles

Gotta delve into him a bit more.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Ha, I thought that was Derek Jacobi's voice.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

Steve Yun posted:

Cronenberg is sitting at the typewriter wondering how to symbolize that James Wood is being brainwashed by media to become violent. "Uhh... I'll have somebody literally stick a videotape inside James Wood. Yeah, that'll do it. "

Thing is, Cronenberg does not believe the media makes people violent. That's one potential reading of the situation.

BUT- what is actually happening? Is Max just hallucinating everything from watching too much torture porn? Or is there a global conspiracy to transform people's brains? Or is the transformation inevitable, and the only real sin trying to use that transformation to control people?

Consider that the "good guys" in Max's vision of events aren't anti-violent-TV or anti-any-kind-of-media. They put up TVs and people can watch them whatever's on, because they believe the medium itself is what is important. The medium is the message, if you will. (Brian O'Blivion is pretty deliberately supposed to be Marshall McLuhan.) Now, it's possible all that's bunkum made up in Max's head to justify what he's done. Or it's possible they're manipulating and programming him.

The movie is a drug narrative, with video as the drug. So it's like Naked Lunch or Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas, there's never any clear indication of what's real and what's not, and the "message" of the film is kind of dependent on what you think actually happens to Max Renn.

So yeah, the symbols may be fairly obvious but what the movie is actually saying- the full sentence- is left up to interpretation.

As for artlessness- visually and in terms of design it's actually really carefully put together. The lighting alone is brilliant, you've got Max's apartment full of images of media manipulation, you've got the cut from Max about to burn Niki's breast (a bit of a pun, to be sure) to the belly dancer performing her safe sexual display, shots of doors and windows everywhere; Cronenberg's style has always looked pretty straightforward in terms of camera movements and setups but he relies on the little touches.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
I think I found the most CineD video game there is.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012


That is the second worst wrestling video game I have ever seen

CloseFriend
Aug 21, 2002

Un malheur ne vient jamais seul.
I'm kind of upset that The Wild Bunch thread didn't get more replies. That's a drat good movie that deserves a lot more than 17 replies.

So anyway, I did something stupid a while back: I bought this not realizing I already had both movies. Then I lost the receipt. So in the spirit of CineD philanthropy and the betterment of this magical land that sucks up too much of my time, I'm gonna pass this savings onto you…

At the end of July, I'll pick a random post from the July Movie of the Month thread—whatever movie it is—and I'll send the author of that post this set of two good kung fu movies, at no cost to you! Here are my conditions…

  • No purchase necessary. Void where prohibited.
  • Whoever wins has to have plat so I can PM with them and get their info.
  • The post has to contain some evidence that the poster has seen the movie.
  • Posts that get the poster probated/banned are ineligible.
  • Someone's gotta remind me that I said I'd do this around the end of July or I'll forget. I have ADHD. It will happen.
  • I'll pick the winner using a random number generator between 1 and the number of posts, so more replies means more of a chance to win! The OP is eligible.

I've sent movies to Fat Lou, penismightier, SEX HAVER, and Skwirl, so they can all attest that I'm on the level, and that if I say I'll do this, then I'll do it. Who will win this magical DVD set? The person's name could be… you!

For obvious reasons, I'm not doing this if there's no July Movie of the Month, so somebody pick a movie and make it of the Month!

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

CloseFriend posted:

I've sent movies to Fat Lou, penismightier, SEX HAVER, and Skwirl, so they can all attest that I'm on the level, and that if I say I'll do this, then I'll do it. Who will win this magical DVD set? The person's name could be… you!

He has and the movie owned, too.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

CloseFriend posted:

[*]Whoever wins has to have plat so I can PM with them and get their info.

What about Twitter?

CloseFriend
Aug 21, 2002

Un malheur ne vient jamais seul.

I Before E posted:

What about Twitter?
gently caress it; good enough.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Slice of Life: Welp. During course of conversation with girl...turns out she's still got some maturing to do. I guess I can stop the feelings b.s. and move on. God I hope.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Gatts posted:

Slice of Life: Welp. During course of conversation with girl...turns out she's still got some maturing to do. I guess I can stop the feelings b.s. and move on. God I hope.

In the emotional sense or the "I need that card from Transformers 4" sense?

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Please stop feeling anything and achieve Nirvana instead. It's much cooler.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Vermain posted:

Please stop feeling anything and achieve Nirvana instead. It's much cooler.

I don't think blowing his brains out will solve any of his problems.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

I Before E posted:

In the emotional sense or the "I need that card from Transformers 4" sense?

In the sense that I'm carrying her printer to Dubai, helping a friend get a better job and asked her life ambitions and plans, and turns out she doesn't want to travel unless it's with that special someone cause, why would you ever want to travel alone? I'm like, to learn, to grow, to have adventure, to explore, meet new people, have new experiences, etc. and her response is "I don't feel like its necessary for me to learn anything." which unless I'm misunderstanding, obviously...uh...hm. Plus she's waiting for her Prince Charming to scoop her up and she don't want to work after having kids...which I hope is for just like the 6 year period until they get to school but it doesn't sound like it. That's a dealbreaker. Nevermind I exceed 95% of her Prince Charming criteria exception of the whole sexual attraction mystical connection up in the ether stuff.

Whatever. I need to grow up and mature too I guess.

I Before E posted:

I don't think blowing his brains out will solve any of his problems.

I've been through worse than that. But eh.

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Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Gatts posted:

Slice of Life: Welp. During course of conversation with girl...turns out she's still got some maturing to do. I guess I can stop the feelings b.s. and move on. God I hope.

Cool maybe now you can stop posting about it.

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