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Dexo posted:Now she can be a weirdo spirit 12 year old in love. Carnal affairs distract from metaphysical concerns,or in other words, why talk to a mouse fairy when Craig is suuuch a hunk?
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I get the feeling getting thrown in prison training camp will be his wake up call. Just a thought. The Earth Queen's treatment of her airbender citizens seems a little strange. If conscription is legal in the Earth Kingdom, there should be no need to secretly kidnap airbenders.
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Jun 30, 2014 22:33
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Baron Bifford posted:Getting thrown in prison rarely corrects criminals. It probably isn't the first time this has happened to the boy. 
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Jun 30, 2014 22:36
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Air benders were basically erased by genocide so a war being launched "because" of humanitarian concerns isn't unreasonable.
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Baron Bifford posted:The Earth Queen's treatment of her airbender citizens seems a little strange. If conscription is legal in the Earth Kingdom, there should be no need to secretly kidnap airbenders. Think less "it's alright to tell people they're joining the army" and more "it's bad to let enemies know you making an army".
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Jun 30, 2014 22:41
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Think less "it's alright to tell people they're joining the army" and more "it's bad to let enemies know you making an army". Also, this is a show for kids and they need to show just how crazy evil the queen is.
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Jun 30, 2014 22:42
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Zedd posted:Even if she wasn't secret about it usually, telling a master airbender politician and the avatar that you are imprisoning the potential rebirth of a nation isn't the best plan.
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Vincent posted:Also, this is a show for kids and they need to show just how crazy evil the queen is. /this is how feudal armies and child soldiers are actually made.
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Jun 30, 2014 22:45
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Dexo posted:Now she can be a weirdo spirit 12 year old in love. Most 12 year olds in these shows act contrary to how they normally would anyway. She's weird by default.
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Baron Bifford posted:Maybe she wants a secret ace up her sleeve. This is the most likely explanation. Airbenders are incredibly new, and that means that the first nation to train them en masse is going to have an enormous tactical advantage. Combine that with the fact that the Earth Kingdom has a lot of fantasy North Korea to it (and thus a gigantic military fetish), and you have all the reason you need.
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Darth Walrus posted:This is the most likely explanation. Airbenders are incredibly new, and that means that the first nation to train them en masse is going to have an enormous tactical advantage. Combine that with the fact that the Earth Kingdom has a lot of fantasy North Korea to it (and thus a gigantic military fetish), and you have all the reason you need. I don't know why people are making all these North Korea comparisons. It's really Empress Dowager Cixi and the late Ching Empire all the way (except that historians are revising their opinion of Cixi in some interesting books), right down to the empire land being taken by foreigners.
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dj_clawson posted:I don't know why people are making all these North Korea comparisons. It's really Empress Dowager Cixi and the late Ching Empire all the way (except that historians are revising their opinion of Cixi in some interesting books), right down to the empire land being taken by foreigners. It caught on really early and most people just keep running with it. Also, ShadowCatBoy's effort post was lost in the noise of the episode releases. ShadowCatboy posted:Well it's also that Ba Sing Se is based strongly off of the late Chinese Qing dynasty, one of two dynasties in which a foreign host (the Manchurians) seized control of the Empire from the native Han population. Because of this, several brutal reforms were put into place to quell rebellion, the most notable of which was the Queue Order, which forced all men in the empire to adopt the Manchurian-style Queue, where the hair is shaved at the front of the head, and worn as a long braid in the back:
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pentyne posted:It caught on really early and most people just keep running with it. Also, ShadowCatBoy's effort post was lost in the noise of the episode releases.
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Hey, Amazon Instant finally has a listing for Season 3... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LEXEZLM?ref_=atv_dp_season_select_s3 Except it's only the trailer as of right now. Hopefully the actual episodes will be coming soon!
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Level Slide posted:Well now he's going to be a brainwashed child soldier*
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achillesforever6 posted:Man I knew Platinum Games was making a Korra game, but didn't expect Korra to start taking stuff from Metal Gear You see, the parts of her name mean "Lightning Bolt". I just picked that up on the summer sale and holy poo poo if I'm not even more excited for a Platinum made Korra game.
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dj_clawson posted:I don't know why people are making all these North Korea comparisons. It's really Empress Dowager Cixi and the late Ching Empire all the way (except that historians are revising their opinion of Cixi in some interesting books), right down to the empire land being taken by foreigners. SpiderHyphenMan posted:Fact is that history tends to repeat itself so audiences will generally assume a reference is more contemporary than it actually is. Most people on SA also don't know poo poo about Chinese history (or most anything about China really.)
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Jul 1, 2014 05:03
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To be fair, the North Korea comparison was pretty decent in the original series given the severe information control being conducted by the Dai Lee. You know, "There is no war in Ba Sing Se," along with the use of "handlers" (Ju Dee) who are required intermediaries between foreign visitors and the rest of the populace.
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Jul 1, 2014 05:16
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There was also the picture of the "Dear Leader" in Bolin and Mako's grandma's house. Up till then I was thinking Qing era China but that certainly had North Korea vibes.
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ShadowCatboy posted:To be fair, the North Korea comparison was pretty decent in the original series given the severe information control being conducted by the Dai Lee. You know, "There is no war in Ba Sing Se," along with the use of "handlers" (Ju Dee) who are required intermediaries between foreign visitors and the rest of the populace. Actually, North Korea is ALWAYS at war with America, and is ALWAYS right about to win (given the chance), and the brainwashing is kind of different. They don't force you to believe it. They just say it and say it and say it until you DO believe it. It's taken for granted that you believe it. The Dai Li were far more 1984 than any particular country.
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It is pretty likely that it is not a 1-for-1 reference to any particular place but rather a combination of various sources.
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Barlow posted:There was also the picture of the "Dear Leader" in Bolin and Mako's grandma's house. Up till then I was thinking Qing era China but that certainly had North Korea vibes. You could also make the argument for Communist Era China  
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Fact is that history tends to repeat itself so audiences will generally assume a reference is more contemporary than it actually is. http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-assures-americans-this-will-not-be-another-1,33719/
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quote:There was also the picture of the "Dear Leader" in Bolin and Mako's grandma's house. Up till then I was thinking Qing era China but that certainly had North Korea vibes.
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Jul 1, 2014 17:22
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It's interesting that when the party was at Ba Sing Se, there's no mention of any spirit mishaps that are occurring there. I was kindof disappointed they dropped that plot point completely for that episode.
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Oracle posted:I got more of a 'old lady with a picture of the Pope on the wall' vibe from that, since the Emperor/Empress was also supposed to be divine in some manner (I think. Or was that just Japanese). Or maybe I just had too many Catholic grandmas with a picture of the Pope on one wall and JFK on the other growing up. her face was more "shhhhhhhhhhshutthefuckup or we're going stright to the workcamps"
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People genuinely used to worship the Emperor, who ruled with the Mandate of Heaven. Modern Asian regimes have copied that because they're not dummies. Mao created a cult of popularity around himself leading up to the Cultural Revolution so that he could use public sentiment to eliminate his enemies, which at that point was everybody. Since the regime he's founded has never fallen (just altered over time) and his real history has never been shown in China, people still think of him as a god who could do no wrong and make a pilgrimage to his mausoleum.
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Anime Device posted:wait, there is a Korra season third? First 3 episodes legally released last Friday, first 6 episodes leaked 3 weeks ago in Spanish.
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Anime Device posted:wait, there is a Korra season third? I don't blame you for not realizing, because they announced it literally a week ago.
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TheAsterite posted:It's interesting that when the party was at Ba Sing Se, there's no mention of any spirit mishaps that are occurring there. I was kindof disappointed they dropped that plot point completely for that episode. Well, like, the whole point of Ba Sing Se is that is that it's a place where the book's titular change is being buried. It's pretty telling that it looks pretty much exactly like it did in ATLA, with everyone still in their Qing dynasty chic fashions. The Dai Li have taken pains to cover up the whole airbender thing-- the same is probably true of other major changes.
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Nick just tweeted that they are re-airing the first three episodes this Friday instead of new episodes. https://twitter.com/NickelodeonTV/status/484037279879815168
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dj_clawson posted:Nick just tweeted that they are re-airing the first three episodes this Friday instead of new episodes. Don't the rest of you wish you paid more attention in Spanish class?
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dj_clawson posted:Nick just tweeted that they are re-airing the first three episodes this Friday instead of new episodes.
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TheAsterite posted:It's interesting that when the party was at Ba Sing Se, there's no mention of any spirit mishaps that are occurring there. I was kindof disappointed they dropped that plot point completely for that episode. I think its sort of implied that pretty much all major spirit shenanigans are in Republic City right now, I guess because that's where the world punching happened.
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Kibayasu posted:I think its sort of implied that pretty much all major spirit shenanigans are in Republic City right now, I guess because that's where the world punching happened. I think it's actually because Unavaatu created the vines there in the first place (during the finale kaiju battle), and they're a magnet for the spirits.
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Jorenko posted:I think it's actually because Unavaatu created the vines there in the first place (during the finale kaiju battle), and they're a magnet for the spirits. So we should probably assume the vines are a spirit nexus further linking the two worlds. (Or they're made of bad vibes)
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Jorenko posted:I think it's actually because Unavaatu created the vines there in the first place (during the finale kaiju battle), and they're a magnet for the spirits. Also, spirits seem to be dicks. Even the nice ones turn immediately evil if you piss them off.
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