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NTRabbit posted:Rumour is the financial report is being written by Matt Ward Fat chance of the books being balanced then.
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Daedleh posted:Fat chance of the books being balanced then. 
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Jul 2, 2014 17:46
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Daedleh posted:Fat chance of the books being balanced then. Perfect.
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Jul 2, 2014 18:47
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Daedleh posted:Fat chance of the books being balanced then. holy poo poo
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Jul 2, 2014 19:17
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Jul 2, 2014 19:23
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I hope he reads this. Just so he knows even more how much parts of the community don't respect him.
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Jul 2, 2014 19:27
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There are people who DO respect Matt Ward?
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Jul 2, 2014 19:36
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The Matt Ward shaped part, I assume does.
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Jul 2, 2014 19:42
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The Ultramarine fan fiction community.
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Jul 2, 2014 19:51
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Seriously, how did Ward get to be basically the prominent 40k dude? Was it just by game dev attrition or does he have compromising photos of someone playing Warmachine or what?
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Jul 2, 2014 20:29
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Seriously, how did Ward get to be basically the prominent 40k dude? Was it just by game dev attrition or does he have compromising photos of someone playing Warmachine or what? They saw him wearing a fedora and thought 'this guy means business'
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Jul 2, 2014 20:34
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Matt Ward is the best writer GW has left. Truly the scariest thought of all.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:04
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PresidentBeard posted:Matt Ward is the best writer GW has left. Truly the scariest thought of all. They're so hosed
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Jul 2, 2014 21:18
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PresidentBeard posted:Matt Ward is the best writer GW has left. Truly the scariest thought of all. Is this really true? I mean, I've seen people saying stuff like "Thank god it's WARD writing X instead of anyone else." Is he seriously the best they've got?
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Jul 2, 2014 21:24
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Ward, Kelly, Cruddace, Johnson, Kinrade, Hoare, Thorpe and Hewitt are all I can find
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Jul 2, 2014 21:32
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Night10194 posted:Is this really true? I mean, I've seen people saying stuff like "Thank god it's WARD writing X instead of anyone else." Is he seriously the best they've got? The impression I've always had, which may be way off the mark, is that people like Ward's tendency to write powerful and usable units and dislike the fluff that he writes.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:36
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NTRabbit posted:Ward, Kelly, Cruddace, Johnson, Kinrade, Hoare, Thorpe and Hewitt are all I can find Gav Thorpe hasn't worked for GW since like 08 Gumdrop Larry posted:The impression I've always had, which may be way off the mark, is that people like Ward's tendency to write powerful and usable units and dislike the fluff that he writes. He makes books that are good enough to play in a variety of ways but the fluff that he writes is mostly stupid garbage. Well, even moreso than 40k fluff already is. I don't know they they don't just have one person do the rules and another do the fluff but whatever. S.J. fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Jul 2, 2014 21:38
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Yeah. People do get bitter about a few stereotypical Wardian codices (Necrons, Grey Knights?) having been better than the competition in their day, but that could pretty legitimately be interpreted as Ward being a better writer of rules than his compatriots. The Wardian fluff is where people legitimately go  at him.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:38
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S.J. posted:Gav Thorpe hasn't worked for GW since like 08 Scratch him then, old lists and guesswork from me
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Jul 2, 2014 21:39
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I shouldn't have really started the derail  I've worked with Alessio C on a few different things and know how badly the Internet have affected him and his confidence so I'd be very surprised if it doesn't affect Ward in the same way. Truth is we don't know for definite how much of MAT WARDs writing is him and how much is studio interference/pressure. I'd be interested in anything Serious Gaylord posts about accountants vs the design studio in terms of rule writing.I have been told by someone on the inside that codex's aren't written by one person any more. The studio team rotates between projects every week or so. I don't know if there's an overall project head who's responsible for compiling the work or vetoing things, but it's certainly a collaborative effort. Which means that multiple people thought that the new Ork mob rule was a good idea. Daedleh fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Jul 2, 2014 21:43
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Kind of curious about GWs design team as well, I mean they have one "sort of" I guess? All the good designers left. People may have complained but a lot of those guys that left were really good and inventive.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:45
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Daedleh posted:I shouldn't have really started the derail GW has moved from crediting individual authors to crediting "the Games Workshop Design Team" in the most recent books. The only real reason I can think of doing so is to avoid these sort of issues.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:46
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Despite their attempts the stink of Cruddace can still be found on the Tyranid codex. Ward's fluff fro necrons is also fantastically 80s.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:55
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What does this 'Wardian fluff' look like? Is that alright to ask in here?
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Jul 2, 2014 21:59
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Spiderdrake posted:What does this 'Wardian fluff' look like? Is that alright to ask in here? The most infamous incident is the Grey Knights murdering a bunch of Sisters of Battle in order to be able to spread the Sisters' blood on their armor to ward against daemons.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:00
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That sounds like something Arthurian paladins would do and is fitting. But nerds misinterpret paladins to be DND lawful goody two shoes. I like this Ward guy already. Q
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Jul 2, 2014 22:02
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I've never understood why GW have such a comparatively microscopic rules/story staff compared to their size.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:04
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Chill la Chill posted:That sounds like something Arthurian paladins would do and is fitting. But nerds misinterpret paladins to be DND lawful goody two shoes. I think the main complaint was not that Grey Knights are too good to do that, but they're already protected by such powerful wards that none of them have ever turned, like reaching for the sunscreen after you've already put on a lead lined HAZMAT suit. Plus there's Draigo.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:10
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Daedleh posted:I've worked with Alessio C on a few different things and know how badly the Internet have affected him and his confidence (then again, it's the internet. You can find haters of anything and anyone)
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NTRabbit posted:I think the main complaint was not that Grey Knights are too good to do that, but they're already protected by such powerful wards that none of them have ever turned, like reaching for the sunscreen after you've already put on a lead lined HAZMAT suit. Pretty much, it's sexist bullshit 101 that even total idiots can see for what it is.
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NTRabbit posted:I think the main complaint was not that Grey Knights are too good to do that, but they're already protected by such powerful wards that none of them have ever turned, like reaching for the sunscreen after you've already put on a lead lined HAZMAT suit. Didn't he also do the 5E space marine codex that was perceived as fellating the Ultramarines even more than the baseline lore?
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Jul 3, 2014 00:26
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JerryLee posted:Didn't he also do the 5E space marine codex that was perceived as fellating the Ultramarines even more than the baseline lore? He did indeed, to the point where the other founding chapters (Imperial Fists, Salamanders, etc.) got just a tad bit more ink than the successor chapters (with the exception of the Iron Hands, who got the same amount of ink as the successors).
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Jul 3, 2014 00:28
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Chill la Chill posted:That sounds like something Arthurian paladins would do and is fitting. No, it doesn't and it isn't.
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Jul 3, 2014 03:45
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Chill la Chill posted:I like this Ward guy already. Q I too like lovely fluff that routinely fellates SPESS MAHREENS. 
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House Louse posted:No, it doesn't and it isn't. I wish liesmith was around to clarify this one.
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Jul 3, 2014 03:54
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I too like lovely fluff that routinely fellates SPESS MAHREENS. Oh if it's the same guy then gently caress that guy. Whatever happened to the thought that all the stories being read are all propaganda from the empire? I remember thinking I was very clever for realizing that when I was young and someone telling me that was a common theory back then. Nevertheless I don't think any of that has to do with finance. They probably still made more money when the lore was 100% serious drgnvale posted:I wish liesmith was around to clarify this one. Yeah I miss that guy. I may have misremembered things but I recall the knights did horrible things in the name of god or to further their cause in the death of Arthur. But in any case I think Jerry is right and it's probably a horrible sexist reason. Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jul 3, 2014 |
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Jul 3, 2014 03:58
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And even if it was something that happened in Arthurian legend (no they never entered a nunnery, slaughtered all within and bathed in their blood at any point ever) that's still some hefty mental gymnastics to make it something that's cool to write today.
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Jul 3, 2014 04:08
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Apparently they needed to cover themselves in women's blood to survive the Bloodtide. E: Holy poo poo they used the Sisters' blood to become "talismans of purity." Which worked better for them than for the sisters whose blood it was in the loving first place. moths fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jul 3, 2014 |
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Jul 3, 2014 04:29
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moths posted:Apparently they needed to cover themselves in women's blood to survive the Bloodtide. Aka periods are scary, am I right guys?
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"Stupid women not using their purity right, better smear it all over our swords and bodies and do this Man's Job."
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