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Cernunnos posted:I wouldn't call tapping down my opponents entire field then dropping an additional Satyr and swinging all in a completely lovely combo. Its a lot of cards to get that combo
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Cernunnos posted:I wouldn't call tapping down my opponents entire field then dropping an additional Satyr and swinging all in a completely lovely combo. It would probably be more efficient to put 4 Stormbreath, 4 Polukranos, and maybe 1 Aetherling in the deck and just activate Xenagos' ultimate each turn for the quick win. Edit: I was thinking the deck would mainly be RG Monsters with Veil and Zarek thrown in just for the "oh look, incidental infinite combo!"
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Jul 2, 2014 19:53
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qbert posted:Chain Veil + Ral Zarek + Xenagos, the Reveler w/4 creatures out = infinite Planeswalker activations? I was thinking chain veil, tezz the seeker, any 4 mana artifact. edh superfriends deck. Here is my chosen win condition. Domri's emblem, Elspeth KE's emblem, Venser makes creatures unblockable. Vraska makes her 3 assasins who have haste, hexproof, indestructible, unblockable, when they hit your opponent loses. I'm just not sure which multicolor commander is best. Pack the deck with all the planeswalkers, tutors, ramp basically.
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jassi007 posted:I was thinking chain veil, tezz the seeker, any 4 mana artifact. edh superfriends deck. Here is my chosen win condition. Domri's emblem, Elspeth KE's emblem, Venser makes creatures unblockable. Vraska makes her 3 assasins who have haste, hexproof, indestructible, unblockable, when they hit your opponent loses. I'm just not sure which multicolor commander is best. Pack the deck with all the planeswalkers, tutors, ramp basically. I feel like once you go infinite with Tezzeret the Seeker and Chain Veil, your entire loving deck can hit the table all at once because it's all artifacts anyway. As a bonus, your deck now does something besides ramp into a five-card win combo, because artifacts are good.
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I think I was reading Chain Veil wrong, it only gives you one additional activation. So if you manage to untap and reactivate it, you can't use your Planeswalkers a third time. That sucks.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:I think I was reading Chain Veil wrong, it only gives you one additional activation. So if you manage to untap and reactivate it, you can't use your Planeswalkers a third time. That sucks. Really? It says you can activate a loyalty ability as though none have been activated yet. Why should it matter whether you've already used one or two loyalty abilities that turn?
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:I think I was reading Chain Veil wrong, it only gives you one additional activation. So if you manage to untap and reactivate it, you can't use your Planeswalkers a third time. That sucks. l3 judge and Northwestern US regional coordinater Riki Hayashi thought the same, but found out he was wrong. @mtgRikipedia It can go infinite.
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Well in that case the Ral/Nissa infinite combo is actually pretty legit, but whether or not you can assemble a deck around that is another story entirely.
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You can only double-activate a planeswalker if you controlled it when you activated the Chain Veil, right? So e.g., if you activate chain veil, +1 Ajani twice to dig for another walker, cast that walker.. you can't double-activate that walker.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:26
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Jul 2, 2014 20:26
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Jul 2, 2014 20:28
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Oh my that flavor. 
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Entropic posted:Please tell me there's a pinger in the set. Chandra ping yourself?
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Entropic posted:You can only double-activate a planeswalker if you controlled it when you activated the Chain Veil, right? So e.g., if you activate chain veil, +1 Ajani twice to dig for another walker, cast that walker.. you can't double-activate that walker. Right, it would have to be on the board when you activate chain veil.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:33
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Elyv posted:
Actually I just want to Chord of Calling this to surprise-block my opponent's giant monstrous Polukranos or something, and then swing back for like 6 in the air next turn while still leaving back a flying deathtouch blocker or two.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:36
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Volcanic Hellion targetting Hornet's nest. or Blasphemous act whenever.
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Entropic posted:Actually I just want to Chord of Calling this to surprise-block my opponent's giant monstrous Polukranos or something, and then swing back for like 6 in the air next turn while still leaving back a flying deathtouch blocker or two. I was just thinking the same thing. I love the flavor in G/B right now. I'm not usually one to like G, but so far the spoilers in G have looked pretty fun to tool around with.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:41
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Entropic posted:Please tell me there's a pinger in the set. This made me think, how many times have they printed a common/uncommon pinger in a standard legal set in the last 5 or so years? The only ones I can think of offhand are Izzet Staticaster in RTR and I guess Brimstone Mage back in ROE. It just doesn't seem to be a thing they do regularly anymore.
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Elyv posted:
Where's my drat insect lord?
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Elyv posted:
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Snacksmaniac posted:Where's my drat insect lord? http://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/magic-2015/23194-obelisk-of-urd
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So since there's a new set coming out, there should be a new Banned/Restricted list update. Any predictions? It seems like every format is pretty static right now. The last relevant changes were banning Deathrite Shaman while unbanning Bitterblossom and Wild Nacatl in Modern, and clearly that didn't break the format. Someone at my LGS was making the argument that, now that DRS is out of Modern, Bloodbraid Elf may be safe to bring back in. Seems unlikely but stranger things have happened.
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Elyv posted:
Now if there was a way to repeatedly kick this hornet's nest... I want to give it indestructible and hit it with Shivan Meteors. Or have 4 out and Blasphemous Act the board.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:So since there's a new set coming out, there should be a new Banned/Restricted list update. Any predictions? It seems like every format is pretty static right now. The last relevant changes were banning Deathrite Shaman while unbanning Bitterblossom and Wild Nacatl in Modern, and clearly that didn't break the format. No major changes, maybe one or two of the cards banned in like 2000 or earlier in Legacy get unbanned and change nothing significant.
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Tardigrade posted:Now if there was a way to repeatedly kick this hornet's nest... No need to get too violent. Here's my Magical Christmas Land: Turn 1 Forbidden Orchard, Birds of Paradise, turn 2 Forbidden Orchard, Hornet Nest, turn 3 land, Blasphemous Act and then Chord of Calling for Flame-Kin Zealot, attack for 19. If I played Hornet Nest and Blasphemous Act in a deck with Chord of Calling, what's the best creature in Modern to find with the Chord? I think in Standard at least Chord of Calling decks will want a one-off Hornet Nest because it's a great combat trick. Chamale fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Entropic posted:Actually I just want to Chord of Calling this to surprise-block my opponent's giant monstrous Polukranos or something, and then swing back for like 6 in the air next turn while still leaving back a flying deathtouch blocker or two. Yep, this is what I want as well. Plus, Obelisk of Urd. This is shaping up nicely. edit: going U/G and getting some Master Biomancers in there too. Sarcastro fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Elyv posted:
Overload Mizziun Mortars. Chord in response, finding Hornet's Nest 
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Elyv posted:
Chord for this to block, then next turn use the bugs to Chord again!
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M-my color pie  So many green fliers!
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:If I played Hornet Nest and Blasphemous Act in a deck with Chord of Calling, what's the best creature in Modern to find with the Chord? I think in Standard at least Chord of Calling decks will want a one-off Hornet Nest because it's a great combat trick. Craterhoof Behemoth's gotta be up there. A 19/19 hasty trampler on his own, and if that somehow isn't enough, you wait a turn and get that plus a swarm of 15/15 bugs.
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I'm a bit late to Token Supertype chat, but if Token were becoming a supertype then wouldn't a Clone copying a token gain the Token supertype despite not actually being a token? That seems like a pretty good reason to keep Token from being a supertype.
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With only 40ish cards left to spoil, it appears that protection may be phased out as an evergreen mechanic. I know Maro has listed it as one that is unintuitive for new players, so I'm not surprised. Also regenerate only seems to appear as a conditional clause on Flesh to Dust, so it might be following suit.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:So since there's a new set coming out, there should be a new Banned/Restricted list update. Any predictions? It seems like every format is pretty static right now. The last relevant changes were banning Deathrite Shaman while unbanning Bitterblossom and Wild Nacatl in Modern, and clearly that didn't break the format.
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Entropic posted:Please tell me there's a pinger in the set. Not yet, though I'd love to see a RUG Staticaster deck built for Super Standard.
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Okay so... T1 Mana dork T2 two creatures, mana dorks optional T3 Xenagos + Satyr T4 Xenagos mana to play chain veil, Hard cast Ral zarek T5, Satyr + Chain Veil + Ral Zarek on the veil and an opponent's permanent, Xenagos mana ramp for 5, chain veil. Repeat until you have infintie-ish mana and all of your opponent's permanents are tapped down. Xenagos and Ral zarek have infinte Loyalty, you have infinte mana and infinte turns, which you don't need because Ral zarek has infinte lightning bolts. Is a thing that could happen with RUG? Are there any good RUG legendary creatures to use as EDH generals?
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The dollar store random 10 card packs don't seem like the worst deal in the world (they do include a land, though, and only ~2 uncommons and no rares). Not as frugal as buying singles, but with a little bit more excitement. A poor man's limited type game with these might be fun. Picking up anything edible was a mistake, though.
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Elyv posted:
Someone playing against a RG deck with Hornet Nest on the board swings in with a pile of 4+ toughness fatties. RG guy Lightning Blasts his Hornet's Nest, eats the big things with bugs
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Gensuki posted:Okay so... Assuming that you do all this in the same turn, your number of turns from Ral Zarek are actually bounded since you only get one extra (with which you would use another +1) Ral activation every time you +1 with him. It's even possible to get 0 extra turns. You could just win with infinite 2/2 satyrs though.
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Rinkles posted:The dollar store random 10 card packs don't seem like the worst deal in the world (they do include a land, though, and only ~2 uncommons and no rares). Not as frugal as buying singles, but with a little bit more excitement. A poor man's limited type game with these might be fun. What kinds of magic stores do you visit exactly? These all sound like poo poo. Don't waste your money on poo poo. You hear me? Don't buy 10 card no-rare packs. Don't buy store repacks. Don't give money to stores that won't let you play with your friends.
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