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Old Fury in the Illuminati would be pretty cool. Hell, you have 2 members right there with him!
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I can't believe they never included him. Do they just not trust him?
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Jul 2, 2014 21:01
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Senor Candle posted:I can't believe they never included him. Do they just not trust him? He already manipulates the world stage that the illuminati feels it should change and manipulate.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:07
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I'm a little confused about the having 2 eyes in 1958, didn't he only have one eye back when he was Sgt. Fury and the Howling Commandos killing Nazis in WW2?
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Jul 2, 2014 21:55
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Skwirl posted:I'm a little confused about the having 2 eyes in 1958, didn't he only have one eye back when he was Sgt. Fury and the Howling Commandos killing Nazis in WW2? From Wikipedia "During his time with the CIA, Fury begins wearing his trademark eyepatch (an issue of Sgt. Fury had revealed that he had taken shrapnel to one eye during the war, which caused him to slowly lose sight in it over the course of years)." So I guess not!
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Jul 2, 2014 22:04
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Yeah, Fury is always depicted with both eyes during WW II. I just checked and: - in New Avengers vol. 2 issue 9, he's already wearing the eyepatch in 1959. - in Secret Warriors 25, in 1961, he does have a missing eye too. That's when he first meets Leonardo and the Heavenly Wheel is set. I guess they looked at what was the earliest dated eyepatch appearance, saw it was in 1959 and went with 1958 as a result.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:38
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So is that guy with the jet pack someone from the silver or golden age of comics? I pretty much expect him to be some forgotten hero at this point.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:53
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I'd be down with a series exploring Nick Fury: Renegade Alien and Old God Hunter. I have to wonder at the implications of showing Watcher seeing him blow up that planet.
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Jul 3, 2014 00:57
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I don't really get why Fury's actions are such a big revelation. Are there any among us here who didn't already think Nick Fury was going around capping aliens and demons? Everyone was already well aware he was a super spy who did this exact same stuff on a Terran level. If Nick Fury had an animated series in the seventies, this would just be the drastic retool done for the final season to cash in on Star Wars.
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Jul 3, 2014 01:07
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Essentially this as an ongoing
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Jul 3, 2014 01:44
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I think my favorite part of this issue was the exchange at the end. OLD FURY: ...anyway! I've been killing to keep the world safe for a good sixty years. Thoughts? ANT-MAN: That does not explain you being old as hell. DR. STRANGE: I've known you for years. How did I not know about this? EMMA FROST: I still don't really trust you, you know. PUNISHER: I am 200% ON BOARD WITH THIS. Tell me about these... gamma bullets.
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Jul 3, 2014 06:11
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Wanderer posted:I think my favorite part of this issue was the exchange at the end. It all makes sense now, its not Bucky who's going to be the new man on the wall. Its Frank, this is the PERFECT job for him it has him written all over it.
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Jul 3, 2014 13:39
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Jiro posted:It all makes sense now, its not Bucky who's going to be the new man on the wall. Its Frank, this is the PERFECT job for him it has him written all over it. They already did a Space Punisher mini!
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Jul 3, 2014 14:39
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Hopefully 616 Frank can conduct himself half as well as his Space counterpart when knee deep in Hitlers on Planet Nazi.
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Jul 3, 2014 14:41
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Little Mac posted:I really thought Howard Stark was going to unveil Leonardo da Vinci in that Rocky Mountain stronghold. I was expecting the same thing. I was slightly dissapointed that there was no one there.
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Jul 3, 2014 15:33
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radlum posted:I was expecting the same thing. I was slightly dissapointed that there was no one there. Nick isn't supposed to meet Leonardo for another 3 years though. And Howard kind of mentions the Shield without naming it: "There are those of us who paid for all this, who helped scavenge the alien technology, who set this up in secret long ago. Those of us who knew the dangers that were out there and that we're going to be coming. But the man who uses all this doesn't work for us. He doesn't work for anyone. No government, no organization."
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Jul 3, 2014 17:18
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Space Punisher would be a pretty unique way to take him. There's decades of street vigilante Punisher, and other than just telling a really good self-contained story, I don't know what else there is to do with him. Turn him into Frankenstein? Yeah sure buddy.
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Jul 3, 2014 22:14
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Flameingblack posted:Space Punisher would be a pretty unique way to take him. There's decades of street vigilante Punisher, and other than just telling a really good self-contained story, I don't know what else there is to do with him. Turn him into Frankenstein? Yeah sure buddy. I really liked him in Soule's Thunderbolts. Making him work with a team is great.
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Jul 3, 2014 22:15
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Both Frankencastle and Thunderbolts show that it's time to take Frank up off the streets because god knows we're not topping Punisher MAX anytime soon.
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Jul 3, 2014 22:18
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Mr. Maltose posted:Both Frankencastle and Thunderbolts show that it's time to take Frank up off the streets because god knows we're not topping Punisher MAX anytime soon.
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Jul 3, 2014 22:33
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Well, he sort of had that going with Electra in Soule's Thunderbolts and I really dug that dynamic. This is probably because I like everything redemptive in Thunderbolts though.
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Jul 3, 2014 22:36
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Flameingblack posted:Space Punisher would be a pretty unique way to take him. There's decades of street vigilante Punisher, and other than just telling a really good self-contained story, I don't know what else there is to do with him. Turn him into Frankenstein? Yeah sure buddy. Well, it would have been two years ago... http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=4950
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Jul 3, 2014 23:23
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I say we keep him teamed up with Strange. Put Giffen or someone on it and make it the best buddy cop superhero comic ever.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:33
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Are we ignoring how stupid that whole Spider-Man thing was?
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Jul 5, 2014 07:07
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Fuckstick Electric posted:Are we ignoring how stupid that whole Spider-Man thing was? I don't think it was stupid. It shows that Fury was still a guy who thought for himself and is still essentially a good person with a good judge of character. And Spidey is certainly something special. It also likely means he isn't the guy who murdered the Watcher.
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Jul 5, 2014 07:38
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I thought he was referring how Parker would count as enough of a threat to the planet that Fury would go and deal with it before going "nah". I understand what they were going for but it was pretty stupid to choose Spider-Man to show it. A better option would have been Hope Summers or Franklin Richards. Hell, maybe Jean if the dude's being doing this for decades. If the concept of "accident gives someone powers" raises a flag that Fury, as man on the wall, feels the need to address then he's either letting a shitload of villains by the same way he did Spidey OR there's a shitload more of powered individuals he may have killed before they has a chance to be good or evil. Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 13:58
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I think a better one would have been Reed Richards or another member of the F4, since that part was supposed to be indicative of his reaction to the start of the Hero age.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:If the concept of "accident gives someone powers" raises a flag that Fury, as man on the wall, feels the need to address then he's either letting a shitload of villains by the same way he did Spidey OR there's a shitload more of powered individuals he may have killed before they has a chance to be good or evil. This is more of what I was leaning towards. If he took a look in on Spidey during his early days (wait, was that an LMD? How long is Spidey supposed to have been fighting crime for in Marvel NOW), he definitely would've taken a look at Norman Osborn, Otto Octavius, Electro and Sandman. He probably would've quit when The Sentry came into being, though.
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Jul 5, 2014 15:45
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muscles like this? posted:I think a better one would have been Reed Richards or another member of the F4, since that part was supposed to be indicative of his reaction to the start of the Hero age. I dont know how they deal with it now (since the sliding timescale means Reed Richards wasn't born yet in 1945) but in the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby comics they Reed Richards and Nick Fury were war buddies. Spider-Man makes more sense, because the FF were were celebrities almost immediately after being revealed, and Spider-Man was this menacing thing that a lot of people were scared of originally.
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Fuckstick Electric posted:This is more of what I was leaning towards. If he took a look in on Spidey during his early days (wait, was that an LMD? How long is Spidey supposed to have been fighting crime for in Marvel NOW), he definitely would've taken a look at Norman Osborn, Otto Octavius, Electro and Sandman. He probably would've quit when The Sentry came into being, though. Fantastic Four #1 took place 14ish years ago. Peter Parker got his powers shortly after that.
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Jul 5, 2014 18:05
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I thought he was referring how Parker would count as enough of a threat to the planet that Fury would go and deal with it before going "nah". Peter wasn't part of his man on the wall job, though. That was his regular dayjob. There were reports about a creepy spider person, Peter was pretty much the first Marvel hero to have a total and complete secret identity, and be viewed as a possible menace. Codependent Poster fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 18:14
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Also remember the public still views Spider-Man as a menace at that point. Plus he was like the third superhero in silver age Marvel so it makes sense he'd get on Fury's radar.
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Jul 5, 2014 18:16
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Wouldn't someone pointing a sniper rifle at Peter set off his spider sense anyway?
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Jul 5, 2014 18:58
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Vakal posted:Wouldn't someone pointing a sniper rifle at Peter set off his spider sense anyway? Not if he wasn't going to fire.
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Sithsaber posted:Not if he wasn't going to fire. Really, it depends on the writer. Peter has used his spider-sense in some really strange ways before. Some writers make it almost as accurate and detailed as Daredevil being able to hear a heart beat and being able to tell if someone is lying. I vaguely remember him hunting down journalistic leads once and using his Spider-sense to help determine what was true and what was false. Sometimes it senses him of just a general sense of danger. And most often, it is an immediate threat with only a few seconds to react. But I think regardless, someone pointing a gun and aiming it would set it off.
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If his spidey-sense was always working he wouldn't have to wear a hardhat.  I also find it funny that Nick thought he was going to be such a huge threat that he brought his special new monster-killing gamma bomb gun for THE MAN-SPIDER and it's like "oh it's a kid in red and blue pajamas, I thiiiiink we can let this one go".
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notthegoatseguy posted:Really, it depends on the writer. Peter has used his spider-sense in some really strange ways before. Some writers make it almost as accurate and detailed as Daredevil being able to hear a heart beat and being able to tell if someone is lying. I vaguely remember him hunting down journalistic leads once and using his Spider-sense to help determine what was true and what was false. Sometimes it senses him of just a general sense of danger. And most often, it is an immediate threat with only a few seconds to react.
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Jul 7, 2014 02:01
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There's that stupid loving scene in Slott's run where he walks into a door and it breaks his nose.
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Fuckstick Electric posted:This is more of what I was leaning towards. If he took a look in on Spidey during his early days (wait, was that an LMD? How long is Spidey supposed to have been fighting crime for in Marvel NOW), he definitely would've taken a look at Norman Osborn, Otto Octavius, Electro and Sandman. He probably would've quit when The Sentry came into being, though. I am now imagining him shooting Bob Reynolds in the head, only to find out the next day that the Sentry is just going along as though nothing happened.
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Original Sins #3 was pretty good, but the Thor book was boooo-ring.
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