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Asiina posted:I would respectfully disagree. As would I 
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Jul 3, 2014 19:26
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Pinterest Mom posted:I think she disagrees about the betrayal being ultimate, because she has another betrayal in mind. Ohhhhhhhhhh 
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Rarity posted:As would I I seem to recall it working out well for yo... oh 
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Skinty McEdger posted:I seem to recall it working out well for yo... It worked out better for me than for Asii!
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Jul 3, 2014 20:24
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Rarity posted:It worked out better for me than for Asii! You know what else would have worked out? You and I coming in first and second place!
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Jul 3, 2014 20:30
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Yeah that would have been pretty sweet.
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Jul 3, 2014 20:31
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Best friends making it to the end together.
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Jul 3, 2014 20:31
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What a great time that would have been!
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Jul 3, 2014 20:35
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So much salt on this page that the snail on the previous one is dead now.
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Jul 3, 2014 20:51
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Like I said I didn't get a chance to read much of this game, just curious if anyone went 100% full-honesty no-alliance this game like I tried to last season.
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Jul 3, 2014 20:58
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I did, and was voted out almost immediately.
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^^^ ^^^Pander posted:Like I said I didn't get a chance to read much of this game, just curious if anyone went 100% full-honesty no-alliance this game like I tried to last season. I don't think so, unless somebody I didn't meet tried in the early game. Pretty cool strategy though!
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 Propaganda Machine posted:I don't think so, unless somebody I didn't meet tried in the early game. Pretty cool strategy though! The Goog did...
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Pander posted:Like I said I didn't get a chance to read much of this game, just curious if anyone went 100% full-honesty no-alliance this game like I tried to last season. The Goog tried it. It sadly didn't work out well for him.
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Jul 3, 2014 21:01
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Were you/the goog active socially? I can't tell if it'd set you up to win in FTC or if people would disdain you for not 'playing the game properly'.
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Jul 3, 2014 21:04
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Has anyone who tried that strategy done better than Xylo in ABB (final 5)?
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Pander posted:Were you/the goog active socially? I was 99% honest season 3 and people were not happy come FTC
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Jul 3, 2014 21:06
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Rarity posted:Has anyone who tried that strategy done better than Xylo in ABB (final 5)? It's easier to do it on Big Brother, because the HoH/noms set up makes it so you have to pick a side at the end of the week even if you are floating, so any vote you make is a vote you were coerced into making. It's harder on Survivor because your universe of possible targets is "every other player in the game" so you can't wash your hands of your votes as much, and people will see you as an easy pickoff.
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Jul 3, 2014 21:09
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Pander posted:Were you/the goog active socially? He wasn't. Which was kinda what killed him.
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Jul 3, 2014 21:09
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Rarity posted:Has anyone who tried that strategy done better than Xylo in ABB (final 5)? I maintain I'd have had a pretty good shot getting farther than I did (6th in AS S4) if I hadn't also been working 90 hour weeks that entire month. I just couldn't keep up social comms so I was a compromise lynch between a couple factions instead of playing kingmaker for either.
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Jul 3, 2014 21:13
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Pander posted:Were you/the goog active socially?
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Jul 3, 2014 21:14
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Fast Luck posted:Maltose was pretty active but Bowmore and Chili were both friends with Dhaes so there wasn't much room for him to hide. Ouch. Yeah. Mafia ties are great early game to foster alliances, but given the lack of mafia vet winners overall I think it's an impediment in the long haul. They also make for the best ULTIMATE BETRAYALS.
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Jul 3, 2014 21:15
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In the three tribe set up there isn't a lot of space to hide at all. Honestly I think the wider the initial field the more chance you have of getting far which is where ABB is probably better for it.
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Pander posted:Ouch. Yeah. Mafia ties are great early game to foster alliances, but given the lack of mafia vet winners overall I think it's an impediment in the long haul. Also when I was on the chopping block I became temporarily homeless so I wasn't in much of a position to jockey out of the way.
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Jul 3, 2014 21:18
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Skinty McEdger posted:In the three tribe set up there isn't a lot of space to hide at all. Honestly I think the wider the initial field the more chance you have of getting far which is where ABB is probably better for it. ABB is better in some ways and worse in others for making alliances. Like there's nothing keeping you together at all, so it's like the entire game is post-merge survivor but with none of the tribe shared history that helps keep tribe alliances going. Also unless you're HOH you are never safe, so there's really no time where you can just relax. Also having a majority alliance doesn't mean anything if you don't have a member of your alliance win HOH every week to keep it together. A minority alliance of 2 people can completely prevent anyone else from doing what they want. You have to be a lot more flexible and have to have potential relationships with everyone which is quite difficult. But if you can keep that balancing act you can go far.
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Tremendous Taste posted:I was 99% honest season 3 and people were not happy come FTC I don't know that that is really true. I don't think you can scheme, have an end goal in mind, and still claim 99% honesty. Not to mention you lied to me at least twice, even if it was by omission. The type of game Pander is talking about is totally different. And for what it's worth, I don't think it can work, but it would be neat if it did.
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Jul 4, 2014 02:00
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I told you the truth always king B! Even when it was bad news I only ever lied to rags
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Jul 4, 2014 02:00
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Off the top of my head, remember when you said you'd vote with me on that final vote and then you "changed your mind" and Pug told me about it before you voted me out?  Lie buddy. Even if it was by omission, if you truly meant to vote with me before changing your mind.
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Jul 4, 2014 02:03
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I skyped you about it and you told me he'd already talked to you I kept the promise I made to him and mob day 1, I'd been pretty upfront that I'd intended to do so since the merge and in the end I felt to guilty to break it. And I probably lost because of it, but so it goes.
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King Burgundy posted:I don't know that that is really true. I don't think you can scheme, have an end goal in mind, and still claim 99% honesty. Not to mention you lied to me at least twice, even if it was by omission. The type of game Pander is talking about is totally different. And for what it's worth, I don't think it can work, but it would be neat if it did. why would you cut cap pig in favor of puggle for that alone you deserved to lose, no slight against puggle
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Jul 4, 2014 02:29
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My mafia game is now up! Go sign up if you were a player. Spots will be reserved for players until Saturday night and then I'll open it up to any of the viewers.
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John Cena posted:why would you cut cap pig in favor of puggle for that alone you deserved to lose, no slight against puggle Exactly. I think you would have been able to tell a much better story if you had gone with that. I even told you that at the time, if you keep Puggle he wins. Then he did. But oh well. Tremendous Taste posted:I skyped you about it and you told me he'd already talked to you Well, another lie, and this was a consistent one, was how you constantly told me you had no plans for end game and didn't want to make any. That was a bald faced lie every time you said it, and you said it a lot. How many pitches did I make to you? Each time came the lie. Until right before you pitched me out the door. =) (You told me about Puggle after merge, but continued to obfuscate about mob) Yes, the game you played was more honest and up front then many, but it was by no means honest.
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I suppose that's true. I saw myself breaking my promise and agonizing over whether or not to do so. I had a plan but didn't know whether I'd stick to it, so while it wasn't a lie it wasn't the truth either. I could have won with pig, probably, but it wouldn't be true to what I promised them and I played by my word. And you made me a villain!
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True fact: I sincerely wanted to go to final three with you and pp to the point that I said I'd do it, thought about it for a few hours, actively wound myself up with anger and shattered a hockey stick on a shot after realizing I couldn't break the promise. I thought my vote that tribal was pretty clear in broadcasting how I really felt about it.
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Then again I was way too wound up in that game. I was so far in my own head I couldn't justify why I deserved to win. I may have gripes with the way awful survivor juries tend to vote but I couldn't do myself any favors.
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Yeah your stuff doesn't count TT. I don't think I told a single lie by omission or otherwise in S4. In S1? Yeah I lied a LOT. I lied to Mills even after he was eliminated, because well gently caress him. But S4 I told everyone my strategy from the get-go, and I'm not sure if it was play or luck that got me so far, and was curious if there'd be a larger sample pool. Apparently no-alliance full-honesty has been done in real life Survivor, but I don't think it's been explored much in AS much.
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