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Throatwarbler posted:that's not some ghetto hack repair, the bumpers are actually attached like that from the factory. The factory zipties... AHahaha Factory Zip Tie They're not even trying at this point, are they? Maybe invest in some of these  I still can't get over the factory zip tie, are there any other models that come with factory zip tied bumpers or is the Journey special that way? Bajaha fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:Jesus Chrysler. Whoa.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:02
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Hahah what the gently caress, that's seriously the factory repair? The screw itself is also quite rusty as you can see in the photo. I guess when it rusts enough to break off, you'll have to drill another screw into the frame an inch off to the side? Not shown: The 2.7l V6 under the hood. The warranty is up this year so it may surprise you that we are selling it.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:08
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Throatwarbler posted:The factory zipties Clearly, Freiburger and Finnegan have a day job at FCA.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:13
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gently caress that, I'm gonna go get a job at FCA. I can't possibly do a worse job, and I'd get to drive a camo'd up Fiat Panda to work. Here's my idea: airbags that smell good, like lilac. The steering wheel seals the airbag in like a ziploc bag so you can change out the smell whenever. Wheels are attached to the hub by friction, like Lego.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:19
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This is what happens when the drift crowd gets old enough to start getting up the ladder at these companies.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:21
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Yeah, it's not half-assed and hacked together. It's drift spec™ I believe british leyland pioneered that trend sending cars out with mismatched wheels.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:25
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Bajaha posted:
I'm a long-time Chrysler owner. You mean there are other cars that *don't* have bumpers held on with zipties from the factory? 
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Jul 4, 2014 04:25
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In Detroit's heyday the installation of at least 25% of the zipties on each car would've been forgotten
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Jul 4, 2014 04:33
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Throatwarbler posted:Yes， maybe it wasn't clear but that's not some ghetto hack repair, the bumpers are actually attached like that from the factory. The factory zipties broke off after about 18 months, the car is a MY 2011 and this is the second set of new zipties. Just get them done during regular oil changes. Hahaha what the gently caress, even bricklins are put together than that. I would expect that kind of shenanigans from a low quality kitcar manufacturer, not a major OEM.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:49
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kastein posted:Hahaha what the gently caress, even bricklins are put together than that. I would expect that kind of shenanigans from a low quality kitcar manufacturer, not a major OEM. We are talking about Dodge/Chrysler here. They're just competent enough to slap parts together in a way that mostly looks like a car.
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Jul 4, 2014 04:53
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ExplodingSims posted:We are talking about Dodge/Chrysler here. They're just competent enough to slap parts together in a way that mostly looks like a car. Given badge engineering (which Chrysler did not invent but definitely perfected), they ARE a low quality kitcar manufacturer.
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Jul 4, 2014 05:33
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Throatwarbler posted:I'm a big Chrysler apologist and there is no Chrysler car to bad for me to defend. Are you sure that's the factory install, and not some dodgy dealership fix to cover up some in transit/parking lot damage from before you bought it? Like, have you checked other dodge journeys?
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Jul 4, 2014 05:57
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Linedance posted:Are you sure that's the factory install, and not some dodgy dealership fix to cover up some in transit/parking lot damage from before you bought it? Like, have you checked other dodge journeys? Apparently there is no actual clip or 'factory' attachment point up there and it's common for the bumper cover to pop out like that, that must be the dealers recommended fix. From a website I found one persons dealer attempted to epoxy that part of the bumper cover in place... Jesus.
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Jul 4, 2014 06:04
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Linedance posted:Are you sure that's the factory install, and not some dodgy dealership fix to cover up some in transit/parking lot damage from before you bought it? Like, have you checked other dodge journeys? I looked around a bit and I don't think this is actually a factory thing. It's just a hack to fix the bumper popping out since it doesn't have anything from the factory holding it on in that area.  This is kind of hard to see but it doesn't look it has any mounting in that area. So the plastic bumper probably warps after a while and starts to bulge out there. *beaten immediately*
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Jul 4, 2014 06:14
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That is just absolutely the worst thing I've ever seen. What really bothers me is that noone at chrysler aftersales could be bothered coming up with a better solution than cable ties. Practically any other brand would've come up with some sort of retro-fittable bracket or something associated with the TSB.
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Jul 4, 2014 07:37
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Throatwarbler posted:The factory zipties The factory zipties The factory zipties The factory zipties The factory zipties 
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Jul 4, 2014 09:02
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Superior American
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Jul 4, 2014 09:41
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Even then, why not use the stainless steel zipties?
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Jul 4, 2014 09:55
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ExplodingSims posted:We are talking about Dodge/Chrysler here. They're just competent enough to slap parts together in a way that mostly looks like a car. Oh, I know. I own a pile of chryco era jeeps. I just expected slightly better than that. Like, say, anything but a cable tie.
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Jul 4, 2014 13:09
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Well, I guess it was the dealer all along! We were going to get a Honda for the next vehicle but thanks to this thread my faith in Chrysler has been restored.
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Jul 4, 2014 13:11
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Throatwarbler posted:my faith in Chrysler has been restored. We have created a monster. 
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Jul 4, 2014 13:13
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Any bets on how long the Fiat/Chrysler marriage will last?
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Jul 4, 2014 13:24
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Linedance posted:Are you sure that's the factory install, and not some dodgy dealership fix to cover up some in transit/parking lot damage from before you bought it? Like, have you checked other dodge journeys? There isn't a scratch or dent on the bumper itself, so there was no reason to suspect that kind of damage, and I can't really see how any sort of impact would make the buckle up like that anyway, and well, when I saw it, I guess it just didn't surprise me that Chrysler would do something like that from the factory. No I didn't ask them to take apart someone else's truck for me to confirm. Valt posted:I looked around a bit and I don't think this is actually a factory thing. It's just a hack to fix the bumper popping out since it doesn't have anything from the factory holding it on in that area. I think you guys are right although that picture is showing the bumper from the 2013+ refreshed version which isn't the same part. They might be different but probably aren't. kastein posted:We have created a monster. Just kidding! We never lost faith in Chrysler and would have bought another one, but Chrysler doesn't make a Honda Fit competitor so eh.
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Jul 4, 2014 13:29
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I'm sure the dealer is perfectly willing to find a damaged Honda Fit at auction, slap a Dodge Avenger logo on the back and apply zipties to the rear control arm.
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Jul 4, 2014 14:30
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Throatwarbler posted:Just kidding! We never lost faith in Chrysler and would have bought another one, but Chrysler doesn't make a Honda Fit competitor so eh. Obviously the answer is a Fiat 500L.
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We rented a car and they gave us a brand new Chrysler 200 (like, 200 miles on it). It broke down to where it wouldnt start. Not that I would have purchased a 200, but after this I wouldnt want to rent one in the future.
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Jul 4, 2014 15:36
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Das Volk posted:The factory zipties They are called Drift Stix and are all the rage in Japan right now.
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Mister Kingdom posted:Any bets on how long the Fiat/Chrysler marriage will last? Fiat keeps buying more and more share of the company, they want the whole pie. So, forever?
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Jul 4, 2014 15:49
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Rhyno posted:Fiat keeps buying more and more share of the company, they want the whole pie. Wasnt that the Daimler-Benz mindset too?
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Jul 4, 2014 16:01
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Was too slow to get a picture but just saw a Toyota Cellica with three giant vinyl stickers of some Asian woman's face stuck on the side, another on the back, and I'm assuming more on the passenger side. They weren't even arranged in any particular way, just slapped wherever.
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KKKLIP ART posted:Wasnt that the Daimler-Benz mindset too? No, they just wanted to strip anything of value that they could and then dumped Chrysler on the street like a cheap whore. Fiat seems to really want Chrysler and their brands for realsies.
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Jul 4, 2014 17:02
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The European car market is making GBS threads the bed, with very little chance of a turnaround. The US won't have a functioning public transit system for another 40 years, until the republicans all die.
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Rhyno posted:Fiat keeps buying more and more share of the company, they want the whole pie. Then they should keep the Jeep and minivans and dump all the cars. Into an active volcano.
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Powershift posted:The European car market is making GBS threads the bed, with very little chance of a turnaround. The US won't have a functioning public transit system for another 40 years, until the republicans all die. Personal car ownership beats taking public transit anyhow
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Jul 4, 2014 19:11
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PCOS Bill posted:Personal car ownership beats taking public transit anyhow Yeah. But that doesn't help car makers in Europe. Even if the economy does recover, attitudes and habits won't.
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Mister Kingdom posted:Then they should keep the Jeep and minivans and dump all the cars. Into an active volcano. The Hellcat says you are wrong sir.
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Jul 4, 2014 19:30
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Are pickups with Lambo doors a thing now? Or is it an old truck and I missed the trend? Cause I just saw one.
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Mercedes had a functioning car company behind it and grabbed Chrysler because they thought it was a bargain, then dumped it when it apparently wasn't. Marchionne is frantically trying to use Chrysler to make a crumbling Fiat stable. Also chuckling at the suggestion that the terrible and growing worse EU car market is in any way related to public transit
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