|
So what the hell IS the comvat? Google gives me fuckall on it despite it being bradley based as far as I can tell. Also, are there any BLUFOR units that I should never ever take?
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 07:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 05:59 |
|
|
Can't help you with the last question, but that's the COMVAT, I think.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 07:46
|
|
|
I don't get why a Bradley with a bushmaster and itow would every be less desirable than a Bradley with a better autocannon. The bushmaster is no slouch anyway.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 07:52
|
|
|
Nuclear Pogostick posted:Also, are there any BLUFOR units that I should never ever take? Yes, all of them.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 08:32
|
|
|
Justin Tyme posted:If we're gonna go Full Sperg cav scouts shouldn't even be in the game at all since they are already represented in the recon tab as the Bradley, ACAV, Humvee, and Sheridan, and usually don't conduct recon dismounted (or very far from their vehicles, at least). Plus, I'm not EXACTLY sure how it is in a cavalry troop, but snipers are infantryman, not cavalry scouts, and if they did have snipers they'd be detached from a headquarters element. It'd make much more sense for ~realism~ to just make them be a LRS team since LRS can come in a variety of transports and have a sniper rifle. I was in the dismount infantry company of a RSTA squadron in an infantry brigade, and it confused the ever living poo poo out of me there. I can't imagine what kind of spergery it would induce in RD. Dandywalken posted:They come in the standard US trucks, Humvee, M113 and Super Dragon 113, Huey, and UH60. So....US cav scouts don't come in the quintessential cavalry vehicle? loving Eugen. The cav bradley is already in the game. Or just say gently caress it, do something unique and let them go in the Mk 19 Humvee, the minigun humvee, or the TOW 2 Humvee. At least that way they'll have a gimmick (get a funky transport along with your infantry) that might make them interesting and give the US infantry some special flavor. Leif. fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jul 4, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 09:41
|
|
|
Cavalry guys not getting Bradleys would be hella weird. Do people still say that? M35 trucks would be downright hilarious. Like the Cav version of the short schoolbus. I don't mind US infantry not getting humvees with mk.19s and miniguns because you know they'd be 20 points. Like the Marder 1A3! Seriously though, a unit specifically derived from US mechanized infantry not getting the Bradley would be nuts. Wouldn't the US sniper/scout unit just be called Scout Snipers? I know those exist in the US military and you have to admit it's a pretty convenient and descriptive name. A lot better than Mountaineers meaning "regular guys but with super dragons." Or is Scout Sniper specifically a Marine thing?
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 10:11
|
|
|
 drat, just like the DDR Tunguska, Eugen is putting a lot of effort into making pretty skins for the new units that don't have new models. A fast heavy iron bomber with some ECM is just what the DDR was missing.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 13:57
|
|
|
I'll be interested to see what the heavy SAM rebalance entails. That's the only thing we haven't really heard anything about yet I think.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 14:33
|
|
|
Is that 8 FAB 500s?  Tunguska-M is still not worth 90 points, jesus.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 15:33
|
|
|
Seriously though does anyone know if the Q-5D is broken or working as intended? It's kind of a big deal for Red Dragon to have an actual good* bomber. *The J-7 bombers have good payloads but they die to a stiff breeze.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 15:37
|
|
|
Last I checked they upped it to 20HE but forgot to change the splash. I pointed this out but no idea if it got fixed.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 16:15
|
|
|
Arglebargle III posted:Wouldn't the US sniper/scout unit just be called Scout Snipers? I know those exist in the US military and you have to admit it's a pretty convenient and descriptive name. A lot better than Mountaineers meaning "regular guys but with super dragons." Or is Scout Sniper specifically a Marine thing? Scout Snipers are a USMC thing. I think Army snipers are just called "snipers." If we're going to complain about US infantry names, topping the list are TACOM and Assault Engineers.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 17:05
|
|
|
Arglebargle III posted:I dunno why but I feel like the meta has gotten better. Or at least I'm getting better at it. The biggest problem the last couple weeks had been getting Conquest games. I never see a lot of our best players from a few months ago. Come back! Soviet expensive poo poo is viable! Sorry, I stopped being a fat lazy American and picked up working out in the mornings. I'll try and drop in at the regular times if people are still on, though!
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 18:29
|
|
|
Mortabis posted:Scout Snipers are a USMC thing. I think Army snipers are just called "snipers." It's not perfectly incorrect though. For instance in my unit, when we were still straight infantry and hadn't transitioned to RSTA yet, it would have been correct because all of our snipers came from the battalion recon scout platoon. So all of our snipers were scouts, but not all of our scouts were snipers.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 21:23
|
|
|
Leif. posted:It's not perfectly incorrect though. For instance in my unit, when we were still straight infantry and hadn't transitioned to RSTA yet, it would have been correct because all of our snipers came from the battalion recon scout platoon. So all of our snipers were scouts, but not all of our scouts were snipers. I too was in the dismounted infantry company in a RSTA squadron, that's ironic. Our snipers were in headquarters platoon and were just lucky dudes that got pulled from the 2 recon platoons. We never called them scout snipers, just "the snipers", like "for this mission team 2 will have the snipers attached" or whatever; this was full-on RTSA though, the only infantry dudes in HHT were the PSD for the SGM and SCO and all the other broke fat dudes who worked in the S shops. That's how it is for the maneuver battalions though, their scout sections are at the battalion level. It always pissed us off because whenever we had to work with them they were so garbage compared to us but they got all the cool stuff on the reg like blackhawk jumps. Which is why I say calling them LRS teams will be much easier to rationalize from a sperg perspective even if the scope of the game's maps would probably be more RSTA and less LRS oriented. Giving the unit card stetsons is an insult to dedicated dismounted recon teams 
Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jul 4, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 21:30
|
|
|
Something interesting I read regarding Soviet vs. Western cold war artillery in the ISIS thread on D&D:Mightypeon posted:--What was deeply worrying about the entire thing was my Hauptfeldwebel in the Bundeswehr (German army). He earlier served in the East German NVA, and thus had experience with various Soviet artillery systems, the American M109 and the German PZH2000. Funny how Akatsiyas actually just blow in game instead.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 21:57
|
|
|
It isnt remarkable IRL either? It really is the M109's contemporary. Its a standard SPG lol. MSTA is what needs some love most of all, IMO. Accuracy tightening for the 2S3 wouldnt go amiss though.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 22:05
|
|
|
From what Greasegunner was saying in mumble one day, the Bradley needs a HUGE accuracy buff since the gunsight can lock on to targets and auto-lead things like some sort of fighter jet dogfight HUD and there is no reason the Bradley should be spraying rounds all over the place.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 22:15
|
|
|
Justin Tyme posted:From what Greasegunner was saying in mumble one day, the Bradley needs a HUGE accuracy buff since the gunsight can lock on to targets and auto-lead things like some sort of fighter jet dogfight HUD and there is no reason the Bradley should be spraying rounds all over the place. Most of the early autocannons seem to be unrealistically inaccurate.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 22:17
|
|
|
Panzeh posted:Most of the early autocannons seem to be unrealistically inaccurate. I remember getting 2 comvats in firing range of a bunch of helos and light vehicles. NO KILLS Granted they were panicked, but they burned through most of their ammo and didn't even manage to pop a BMP1 at close range.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 22:23
|
|
|
Panzeh posted:Most of the early autocannons seem to be unrealistically inaccurate. 60 should be enough, I hope :P RARDEN is least accuracy, but getting a bit of a boost in the 90's vehicles. 2A42 still needs a boost IMO for non-heliborne platforms.
|
|
#
?
Jul 4, 2014 23:23
|
|
|
Arglebargle III posted:I don't get why a Bradley with a bushmaster and itow would every be less desirable than a Bradley with a better autocannon. The bushmaster is no slouch anyway. COMVAT was an experimental project to upgun the Bradley with a higher-calibre autocannon, with Step 2 being to find a way to fit the ATGM back in IIRC. The reason was because the Pentagon brass got wind of some of the rumored BMP-3 features and came to the conclusion that 25mm simply wasn't going to be enough. The project then died because the Cold War ended.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 00:05
|
|
|
Didn't see this posted, so this is our tank rebalance: I approve wholeheartedly.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 00:27
|
|
|
 if the Leo 2 has 60% acc, what do the M1A2 and Leclerc have?
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 00:41
|
|
|
Mortabis posted:
More than 100% IIRC, the shots actually richochet off and you get multikills.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 00:46
|
|
|
They haven't shown off any new infantry yet, have they? I want to know what's in store for '85 and '90 updates of NSWP inf squads.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 03:16
|
|
|
Mortabis posted:
Top attack.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 03:19
|
|
|
Not many upgrades by year, but a good bit of brand new units. The Czech fire-support teams in particular look very cool, as does the Polish one  EDIT: Welp, read the 4 chan thread for Wargame. Its great how you can tell who is who from the official forums just by the poo poo they post there. quote:10 ROF is not realistic for manual load. Nationalism got us into that mess, that and whiny americans. WHO EVER COULD IT BE???? Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jul 5, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 03:22
|
|
|
You can stop getting excited for the DLC now guys.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:03
|
|
|
4chan Red Dragon has some awful and annoying people in it with terrible opinions, who all love destruction. That T-72A looks fine though; also T-72B1s getting 50/40 acc, T-72Bs being 95 pts, autocannons becoming boss weapons etc etc... rebalance looks pretty awesome to me. I thought this image was a little more interesting though:  8x Igla Mi-24V for USSR and R-60M Mi-24VP for DDR. Also why are the ATGMs blocked off? Are they Atakas or something? OctaMurk fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jul 5, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:16
|
|
|
I was trawling the 4chan thread around the time the closed beta was about to start. It's about as bad as the official forums, in some cases worse. And thank christ for that Igla hind, although I think would prefer a cheaper one with fewer missiles. Isn't the T-72A currently 55 points? Why would it go up?
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:19
|
|
|
Mortabis posted:I was trawling the 4chan thread around the time the closed beta was about to start. It's about as bad as the official forums, in some cases worse. More accuracy, stab, and 8 RPM autoloader? I'm almost certain the immunity to morale degradation is going to be a huge thing, since its (still) way overmodelled in RD. Time will tell though.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:24
|
|
|
Wait autoloaders are actually getting morale immunity now? Seriously?
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:25
|
|
|
Mortabis posted:Wait autoloaders are actually getting morale immunity now? Seriously? Yep. Its going to be a big change. Autoloader quality scales from 7 for bad ones to 9 for top-end. Manual loaders get 9 at top end as well. My fear is that at panicked, manual is going to be doing like 4 RPM, which just isnt going to work. I've not run the numbers though, and Vasily's findings show that it actually works out ok in the end I think? gently caress it, I'm gonna peep the files.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:27
|
|
|
Yeeeaaahh I'm going to file this in the overstuffed folder labeled "psuedo-realistic grognard induced terrible ideas." e: on second thought M8s are gonna own even harder than they already do (unless they got rid of the 15 ROF  )
Mortabis fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jul 5, 2014 |
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:33
|
|
|
autoloaders getting RoF degradation immunity is Extremely My poo poo  I just hope they add an [AUTO] tag to guns with autoloaders to be able to easily tell which tanks have them.I am so excited for this new DLC, East German Mechanized is gonna be gnarly with a Tunguska and decent iron bomber + buffed autocannons
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:43
|
|
|
Mortabis posted:Yeeeaaahh I'm going to file this in the overstuffed folder labeled "psuedo-realistic grognard induced terrible ideas." 13 now 
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:53
|
|
|
Guggs, based on how far along the marshals patch is, how soon do you think they'll actually release the DLC? Within the month?
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:54
|
|
|
Absolutely. I see a release this month entirely within the realm of possibility, and in fact very likely. FLX has been busting his rear end by the sound of things :P
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 05:56
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 05:59 |
|
|
Justin Tyme posted:autoloaders getting RoF degradation immunity is Extremely My poo poo I want to know if Mot-Schutzen and FJB-40 are getting year updates, or any swank new transports.
|
|
#
?
Jul 5, 2014 06:00
|
|