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Feels sort of like a projecting low prow, with an overhanging forecastle. Much more nautical that way. EDIT: 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I don't think you're the first one to suggest it, but I agree that that would be a very positive change. Yeah we've definitely discussed it in this thread a few times in the past. IMO I think the JJ Prise is one of the most poorly designed ships in Trek, but the neck part is absolutely the worst part. I get they were trying to make it look different from the old ship, but maaaan what a lazy design.
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Jul 4, 2014 21:32
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I love the JJ Enterprise. To understand it's design philosphy, you need look no further than the scene where child-kirk is introduced in Trek09: The enterprise is a space muscle car. If you still don't see it, look at the chrome piloting controls. It is a different asthetic than we're used to in trek, but I think it fits great with new films. It would be a terrible design if it were copy-pasted into TNG or DS9, but hopefully we will never see it in that context.
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Jul 4, 2014 23:07
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Snak posted:I love the JJ Enterprise. To understand it's design philosphy, you need look no further than the scene where child-kirk is introduced in Trek09: The enterprise is a space muscle car. If you still don't see it, look at the chrome piloting controls. It is a different asthetic than we're used to in trek, but I think it fits great with new films. It would be a terrible design if it were copy-pasted into TNG or DS9, but hopefully we will never see it in that context. That's exactly what Abrams was going for. Designer John Goodson posted:It was really interesting working with J.J. for this ship. They gave us a lot of latitude to kind of play with it. They had some specific ideas of what they wanted. He wanted a hot-rod type of vehicle, but they also wanted to preserve the Enterprise kind of look. They gave ILM a tremendous amount of leeway in terms of the design. ... It's got this sweeping line that's kind of giving it this real hot-rod kind of car feel. It's ILM's job to sort of take this and start to flesh this thing out and make it more real and convey the scale and all those things that you need, so it's just a leaping-off point for us. ...
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Jul 4, 2014 23:21
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Ahahah it literally is the answer to someone's midlife crisis, that's loving priceless
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Jul 5, 2014 00:59
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This here is a pretty kicking rad Enterprise design: from http://mattwileyart.com/portfolio/vintagead.html
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Jul 5, 2014 02:28
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Subyng posted:This here is a pretty kicking rad Enterprise design: That is goddamn awesome. Chrome that poo poo up.
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Jul 5, 2014 03:55
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Chrome? No no, beam-reflective coating. Handy in a phaser fight.
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Jul 5, 2014 03:57
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Having a full-spectrum reflective surface on your ship does make sense in space. Better than just absorbing everything. Lets you get nice and close to a star.
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Jul 5, 2014 04:11
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I don't think you're the first one to suggest it, but I agree that that would be a very positive change.
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Jul 5, 2014 04:15
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Subyng posted:This here is a pretty kicking rad Enterprise design: This is really sexy. This is how you do hot rod.
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Jul 5, 2014 04:27
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Aside from the underbite, the thing that bugs me most about the JJPrise is actually the curvey engine pylons. Straight lines give the impression of strength, whereas in shots from behind the ship these ones look like they're wobbly and about to fall off. Ah well. TMP Refit is the supreme version anyway. She'd hold up as a modern design in a modern film any day. 
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Jul 5, 2014 04:30
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The TMP refit is utterly timeless; it's basically impossible to tell when it was designed and it looked futuristic on film (terrible FX from ST:V notwithstanding) from 1979 to 1991. She's a beautiful lady and we love her. 
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Jul 5, 2014 04:38
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As goony as he is, sometimes I think Barclay is the only sane person on the Enterprise. An away mission to check out a derelict ship who's crew has vanished, and is surrounded in magic space poo poo neither sensors or shuttles can get through, and the only way in is by O'brien hacking up the transporters? Dude seems to be the only one on the ship who shows any awareness that this is how your parents end up with a "I regret to inform you that..." letter.
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Jul 5, 2014 04:51
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MikeJF posted:Having a full-spectrum reflective surface on your ship does make sense in space. Better than just absorbing everything. Lets you get nice and close to a star. But they don't use lasers in Star Trek, they use particle beams, so a reflective surface would be useless  e; well purely from a defensive point of view, reflecting cosmic radiation would be pretty handy I guess
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Jul 5, 2014 05:20
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:As goony as he is, sometimes I think Barclay is the only sane person on the Enterprise. This is kind of like how most of Wolf's suggestions, which initially sound aggressive, are usually far more logical than those of the rest of the crew. TNG just tends to portray the sane folks as wrong, even in situations when they obviously aren't.
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Jul 5, 2014 05:38
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Barlow posted:This is kind of like how most of Wolf's suggestions, which initially sound aggressive, are usually far more logical than those of the rest of the crew. TNG just tends to portray the sane folks as wrong, even in situations when they obviously aren't. Picard always acting as if raising shields could be considered a hostile act always makes me go  Considering the logical ramifications of transporters, cloaking devices, and all sorts of other space stuff, having your shields down seems completely reckless.
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Jul 5, 2014 07:49
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You'd think there'd be some low-grade shield on one hundred percent of the time. Enough to absorb a single shot or a transporter beam.
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Jul 5, 2014 07:57
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Subyng posted:I'm one of the people that absolutely loves how the neck is far back on the JJprise and hate all suggestions to move it back to the front. The positioning of the elements of the JJprise makes the design feel more balanced. Wait what? Get your inner ears checked because JJprize is awfully unbalanced. Like this isn't even a subjective thing, it just isn't. Besides, the fans already made a better version. 
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Jul 5, 2014 09:42
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Who the gently caress cares about balance in space? What's it going to do? Tip forward and start sinking?
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Jul 5, 2014 09:55
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Captain, the thread seems to be caught in some sort of.. temporal flux.
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Jul 5, 2014 10:01
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Watching Future Imperfect. I love that the little alien guy in charge of Riker's simulation made his dead wife somebody he met in a holodeck dating sim. "Your wife, Captain Riker... Princess Zelda."
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Jul 5, 2014 10:14
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Vagabundo posted:Who the gently caress cares about balance in space? What's it going to do? Tip forward and start sinking? Aesthetics drat it. What's the point in running an intergalactic military organization if you cant look good whilst doing so?
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Jul 5, 2014 10:54
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Vagabundo posted:Who the gently caress cares about balance in space? What's it going to do? Tip forward and start sinking? We're critiquing the design, not the drat engineering. There's such a thing as visual balance.
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Jul 5, 2014 11:47
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Nutsngum posted:Wait what? Get your inner ears checked because JJprize is awfully unbalanced. It looks like a Star Trek: Online ship, with the rectangular hard edges and greebles and whatnot.
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Jul 5, 2014 14:23
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DrSunshine posted:It looks like a Star Trek: Online ship, with the rectangular hard edges and greebles and whatnot. New-era STO ships are smooth, white, and curved. But yeah, I don't really like that design up there, it's all... Star Wars-y. Gritty.
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Jul 5, 2014 14:30
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I am not being facetious one bit when I say that ship should be hauled away as garbage. It looks like a junker sitting in a shady no-name dealership on the outskirts of town. Cousin Gaila's Used Ships! "That's no moon... it's a bargain!"
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Jul 5, 2014 15:03
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Vagabundo posted:Who the gently caress cares about balance in space? What's it going to do? Tip forward and start sinking? Well it was underwater in STID.
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Jul 5, 2014 15:13
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"How many atmospheres can the ship withstand?" "Well, it's a space ship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one."
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I am not being facetious one bit when I say that ship should be hauled away as garbage. It looks like a junker sitting in a shady no-name dealership on the outskirts of town. "What a piece of junk!" "She'll do point-five past light speed." Haha. That means that the Millennium Falcon can only go at Warp 1.5! 
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DrSunshine posted:Haha. That means that the Millennium Falcon can only go at Warp 1.5!
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Crosscontaminant posted:Or 1.5c, which is Warp 1.14. Oh yeah, because of the logarithmic scale, right? I'd forgotten about that. 
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Crosscontaminant posted:Or 1.5c, which is Warp 1.14. Oh boy here we go
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WE WERE ALL THINKING IT
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Jul 5, 2014 18:36
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There's a completely separate Star Wars system for rating ships where 0.0 is infinite velocity in hyperspace
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MrL_JaKiri posted:WE WERE ALL THINKING IT No I wasn't! 
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Jul 5, 2014 19:11
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The Kelvin is also the single best looking Fed ship in Star Trek history. Look at that awesome thing. Subyng fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 19:20
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Subyng posted:The Kelvin is also the single best looking Fed ship in Star Trek history. Concept art from early in development:  And while we're at the concept art   
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Jul 5, 2014 19:24
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MikeJF posted:Concept art from early in development: I hardly recognized it without all the chrome and lens flares! 
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Subyng posted:Look at that awesome thing. Weird, you misspelt Excelsior, and then you even posted a picture of some hideous loving abortion. Are you feeling okay? You don't have the macrovirus, do you?
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