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PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT This thread is actually magic. This is the best thread.
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just goes to show that you can be the weirdest goon and still get people to give you money
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Jul 5, 2014 16:30
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IceAgeComing posted:just goes to show that you can be the weirdest goon and still get people to give you money See: LF and the pants guy.
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Jul 5, 2014 16:37
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IceAgeComing posted:just goes to show that you can be the weirdest goon and still get people to give you money he is going to be able to send so much pizza to girls
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Jul 5, 2014 16:58
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I like the comparison he makes to the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae. He DOES know that they all loving died because the Persians snuck up behind them, right?
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Jul 5, 2014 17:04
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Alter Ego posted:I like the comparison he makes to the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae. He DOES know that they all loving died because the Persians snuck up behind them, right? I was just mentioning that. So many people saw that movie and think it's such a cultured reference to say they are like the 300, apparently never picking up on the fact that they lose
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Jul 5, 2014 17:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9JkbFr8tkc This is Chris Boyko's updated Louis CK diet:  
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Jul 5, 2014 17:14
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Lawrence Lessig is like the pied piper for gullible liberals who put action ahead of thought.
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Jul 5, 2014 17:17
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Samurai Quack posted:I was just mentioning that. So many people saw that movie and think it's such a cultured reference to say they are like the 300, apparently never picking up on the fact that they lose 
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Jul 5, 2014 17:17
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Well I certainly didn't see this thread coming back.
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Jul 5, 2014 17:25
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Stultus Maximus posted:Lawrence Lessig is like the pied piper for gullible liberals who put action ahead of thought. Yes. No question that that is what Lawrence Lessig is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldred_v._Ashcroft
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Jul 5, 2014 17:51
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OwlBot 2000 posted:Everyone's bashing this idea but I don't see what they've got that's any better. Some have even said that "taking money out of politics" doesn't do enough, but that seems like precisely the solution. Instead of sending your money to these people to send it to other people while taking a cut, just send it to people you like in the first place.
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Jul 5, 2014 19:15
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I wonder what kind of e-terror MLP fans have instigated upon Adobe from the eleventy billion copies of Flash that are pirated daily to make stuff like this
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Jul 5, 2014 19:17
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But Fischmech, I don't have the marketing savvy of Boyko. How can I raise $5 million to send?
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Jul 5, 2014 19:18
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If Boyko is a 21st century Ignatius Reilly, then I think the revolution at Levy Pants just got underway.
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Jul 5, 2014 19:21
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OwlBot 2000 posted:But Fischmech, I don't have the marketing savvy of Boyko. How can I raise $5 million to send?
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Jul 5, 2014 19:27
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Post 9-11 User posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9JkbFr8tkc Pinkie Potato looks like he's entered Nirvana over there.
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Jul 5, 2014 19:29
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Nintendo Kid posted:They're not going to send 5 million to anything but pony porn commissions and restaurants. So they're  True Job Creators ? 
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Jul 5, 2014 19:31
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I suppose that there's a message here. No matter how much of a dumb manchild you are, you can still find enough even dumber people to scam five loving million dollars out of them.
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Jul 5, 2014 19:34
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Cerebral Bore posted:I suppose that there's a message here. No matter how much of a dumb manchild you are, you can still find enough even dumber people to scam five loving million dollars out of them. "No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people." - H. L. Mencken
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Jul 5, 2014 19:43
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I hope a decent chunk of that $5 million goes toward defeating Kony.
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Jul 5, 2014 20:27
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Discendo Vox posted:My prof in election law was Stanley Brand, and he made a very persuasive argument regarding the efficacy of the previous limit system. My own approach to election speech regulation would essentially revolve entirely around extensive, mandatory disclosure and transparency rules, which the decision explicitly said were legally viable. In practice, no one is currently willing to enact such a regime, but it's less likely to be subject to difficulty/variability in enforcement, and less problematic constitutionally, than straight speech limit systems. Transparency doesn't necessarily improve a given system or insulate it from corruption or conflicts of interest, particularly if the people viewing the bias underestimate the impact and especially in our political system of First Past The Post. What am I going to do if Hillary in 2016 has a lot of donors I dislike? Vote for the Republican? Chances are his donors offend me more. Vote third party? I'm hurting my own interests in doing so.
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Jul 5, 2014 20:28
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My big hope is that MayOne.us coverage becomes a thing at some point during the 2016 election. If septuagenarian Fox News/CNN viewers in nursing homes haven't heard of "late night pony parties" already, boy are in they in for a treat. Imagine a Brian Boyko with no media training being hauled before Megyn Kelly, being asked the hard hitting questions... edit: bonus if it's Shep Smith
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Jul 5, 2014 20:30
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dinoputz posted:My big hope is that MayOne.us coverage becomes a thing at some point during the 2016 election. If septuagenarian Fox News/CNN viewers in nursing homes haven't heard of "late night pony parties" already, boy are in they in for a treat. Imagine a Brian Boyko with no media training being hauled before Megyn Kelly, being asked the hard hitting questions... "I guess he could be on something.... oh dear... get off it. Get off it. Get off it get off it GET OFF IT! GET OFF IT!" 
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Jul 5, 2014 20:39
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Mo_Steel posted:Transparency doesn't necessarily improve a given system or insulate it from corruption or conflicts of interest, particularly if the people viewing the bias underestimate the impact and especially in our political system of First Past The Post. What am I going to do if Hillary in 2016 has a lot of donors I dislike? Vote for the Republican? Chances are his donors offend me more. Vote third party? I'm hurting my own interests in doing so. A system of transparency obviously does not solve all the problems and tensions in election law. I'm not proposing that this would resolve the debates around FPTP (it would be strange to think that it could). However, a mandatory, comprehensive disclosure system improves the availability of press scrutiny and public discourse in ways that any restriction or limit on speech will not. It's a very appropriate response to the particular set of electoral problems and legal tensions that Citizens United is involved with Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 21:00
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Discendo Vox posted:A system of transparency obviously does not solve all the problems and tensions in election law. I'm not proposing that this would resolve the debates around FPTP (it's strange to think that it would). However, a mandatory, comprehensive disclosure system improves the availability of press scrutiny and public discourse in ways that any restriction or limit on speech will not. It's a very appropriate response to the particular set of electoral problems and legal tensions that Citizens United created.
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Jul 5, 2014 21:06
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R. Mute posted:I don't care enough about america to put a lot of thought into this, but aren't you basically assuming a) politicians feel the emotion known as shame b) people give a poo poo either way. Do I have to remind you that in your last presidential election, the losing party still got 47-something percent of the votes and Romney actually had that whole 47% video spread all over the news. People don't care. Any system shouldn't involve putting faith in people - they should work despite people being horrible. Again, it's not clear that you follow what CU and these laws were designed to address. The primary problem of the current array of PACs is that they can mask the sources of speech. This makes it easier for political actors to create front groups that either pretend to represent segments of society that they do not, or simply to create PACs that lie or mislead the public. Disclosure of funding sources has the effect of letting the public, the press, and the candidates identify who is actually speaking.
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Jul 5, 2014 21:12
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Discendo Vox posted:Again, it's not clear that you follow what CU and these laws were designed to address. The primary problem of the current array of PACs is that they can mask the sources of speech. This makes it easier for political actors to create front groups that either pretend to represent segments of society that they do not, or simply to create PACs that lie or mislead the public. Disclosure of funding sources has the effect of letting the public, the press, and the candidates identify who is actually speaking.
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Jul 5, 2014 21:16
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Generally, yes. If you think the public doesn't care about who says what during an election, your problem is with elections, not with Citizens United.
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Jul 5, 2014 21:28
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Oh, I don't have a problem with anything - I just think your solution to the problem you see won't work.
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Jul 5, 2014 21:31
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Samurai Quack posted:I'd actually like to hear your thoughts on CU and/or what you think could be done to deal with the influence of private funds dis-proportionately affecting elections. Well, bear in mind that my statements were originally in response to this question. I'm not solving all of election law- I'm proposing constitutionally permissible solution to the PAC problem, which is the problem of anonymous money in elections.
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Jul 5, 2014 21:34
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SA forums user Wanamingo has lost faith in George Takei.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:12
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Post 9-11 User posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9JkbFr8tkc You didn't censor the creepiest part of it 
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Jul 5, 2014 22:30
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R. Mute posted:And once they know who's speaking - correction, once they have to ability to find out who is speaking if they want to make this effort, will they magically start giving a poo poo? The whole loving idea is to mislead the efforts and interests of people who give a poo poo. That's literally the only purpose of PACs. It shouldn't be controversial that they need to loving go. No matter how many or how few people give a poo poo, everyone except the ultra-rich is worse off for their existence.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:32
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dinoputz posted:My big hope is that MayOne.us coverage becomes a thing at some point during the 2016 election. If septuagenarian Fox News/CNN viewers in nursing homes haven't heard of "late night pony parties" already, boy are in they in for a treat. Imagine a Brian Boyko with no media training being hauled before Megyn Kelly, being asked the hard hitting questions... Except that he's got a loving MASTERS IN JOURNALISM, no really, he even mentions it on his LinkedIn under the same name as his SA username. He has better media training than most politicians do - he has the training that politicians' media advisers have.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:20
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Tesseraction posted:Except that he's got a loving MASTERS IN JOURNALISM, no really, he even mentions it on his LinkedIn under the same name as his SA username. He has better media training than most politicians do - he has the training that politicians' media advisers have. The blind leading the blind.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:23
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IceAgeComing posted:just goes to show that you can be the weirdest goon and still get people to give you money People including high profile celebrities who really should know better. 
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Jul 5, 2014 23:33
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TheRamblingSoul posted:People including high profile celebrities who really should know better. George Takei is a cool guy, but... he has definitely spent too much time on the internet.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:36
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Its not like they spent much longer than 30 seconds looking at the thing anyway: they didn't go and find embarrassing pictures of him "exercising" and posts on porn brony reddits.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:49
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Aaaand like the idiot I am, I see a wet paint sign and I must touch it. Some poo poo just can't be unseen. edit: Where did  go?
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