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Omne posted:Not a SINGLE comment on my performance review had anything to do with my own performance. It was either related to number shenanigans, his errors on his own review, or BS. I cursed at him and walked out, refusing to sign it. Good job not signing. It's all we can do. I was rated 2 out of 5 (1 being the highest) and was only 1 of 3 people of 350 that got a 2 (no one got a 1) and it resulted in a 2% raise and $1500 bonus. Corporations in 2014 are a joke. Two days ago my team was split in two, I was assigned to the new team doing a much more basic task than I have been doing for the past year. Everyone is now going to come to me for training on my old job while I do some really dumb mundane poo poo. Guess what? gently caress them, I'm not training anyone, they can figure it all out on their own and I will enjoy my 1 hour of work and 7 hours or internet browsing for new jobs. I know there are some competent managers here, but gently caress all the morons who take an aircraft mechanic and assign them to fix bicycles and wonder why poo poo isn't going as smoothly as it should (bad analogy). 2014 is the year corporations take over humanity. gently caress. To top it off, our new department manager came from a really dumb area (collections), his first action is to reassign jobs, which puts experienced intelligent people in really easy basic jobs and really dumb people in complex tech tasks where they haven't the slightest clue how to proceed. I told my team I feel bad but I won't be helping them because I don't want to support the new DM in any way, shape or form. It sucks to have to look for a new job just because of one dickhead manager when 400 people already know and respect me for my work and use me as a resource, just because the DM is jealous of anyone who is more well known and liked than himself.
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This makes me very happy to work at a boutique where everyone has an assigned bonus target in dollar terms as part of their pay grade, and at the end of the year based on financial performance we all receive the same percentage of that target which is sent out in a company-wide email. Performance reviews really only matter for advancement.
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Jun 27, 2014 12:23
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So yesterday I handed in my two weeks notice. Director said she would talk to the department I want to go to to see if I could go there NOW and get back to me today with the understanding that I'd quit otherwise. Coincidentally two others announced they were quitting. I guess I'm still waiting on an answer but maybe this would be a good time to start making extortionary demands.
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Jun 27, 2014 13:45
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Xibanya posted:I'm still waiting on an answer but maybe this would be a good time to start making extortionary demands. Why do you deserve increased compensation? Because if they can blow you off and say "no", you've forced yourself into quitting with no good explanation to the next Co.
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Jun 27, 2014 14:14
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Xibanya posted:So yesterday I handed in my two weeks notice. Director said she would talk to the department I want to go to to see if I could go there NOW and get back to me today with the understanding that I'd quit otherwise. Coincidentally two others announced they were quitting. I guess I'm still waiting on an answer but maybe this would be a good time to start making extortionary demands. If you wanna quit, I'd suggest going through with it. If you do stay if you get to go into the new position, you'll be first to go if there's ever any new to cut staff, no incentive to give you bonuses or professional development since you're a flight risk, and other factors only you can know (how much you actually like and/or trust your employer and team, etc.). If you want it to end, then just end it, don't drag it out.
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Jun 27, 2014 14:18
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I both hated and loved my annual review. I got great scores on it (not that it matters because government) but at the same time both of the projects that made it up got cancelled due to fuckery so the review basically went "sbaldrick did this, this, this and this which would improve this and will save us time and money. Project cancelled". I feel bad because I didn't really do anything because both projects got cancelled.
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Jun 27, 2014 16:20
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I'm getting increasingly annoyed at this discourse of "millennial entitlement." No doubt some of us can be narcissistic cocksuckers who expect the world on a platter, but most of graduated from expensive schools into a repressed economy with firms that gave less than two 2 shits about work-life balance. This country was built on industry, but it was also built on unions and a 40-hour work week and the GI Bill and other countless structures designed to improve the lives of everyday Americans. And all these things have been steadily eroded over the past 30 years....sometimes by the very people chewing our generation out.
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Jun 27, 2014 20:10
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Radio Talmudist posted:I'm getting increasingly annoyed at this discourse of "millennial entitlement." No doubt some of us can be narcissistic cocksuckers who expect the world on a platter, but most of graduated from expensive schools into a repressed economy with firms that gave less than two 2 shits about work-life balance.
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Jun 27, 2014 20:25
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Kreeblah posted:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-95-of-grandfathers-got-job-by-walking-right,35621/
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Jun 27, 2014 20:55
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My personal favorite is "Go to college so you don't end up flipping burgers for a career!" "What, you think you're too good to flip burgers? drat millenials!"
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Jun 27, 2014 22:59
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"Women don't get paid as much as men because they don't negotiate" *insists on editor pay for editor work* "You sure are pushy, aren't you? Stop asking for a raise."
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Jun 27, 2014 23:07
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Why would anyone ever use text speak in a business email? Is typing "plz" that much faster? 
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Jun 27, 2014 23:48
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Radio Talmudist posted:This country was built on industry, but it was also built on unions and a 40-hour work week and the GI Bill and other countless structures designed to improve the lives of everyday Americans. And all these things have been steadily eroded over the past 30 years....sometimes by the very people chewing our generation out. Uhhh what? I think you mean the country was built by men of vision who performed hitherto-unseen levels of hard work and single-handedly created the economy with no help from anyone else whatsoever. There's only like 3 or 4 of them but basically everyone else is leeching off them. I guess you could say the economy took off in spite of all those things you mentioned.
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Jun 28, 2014 00:36
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Weatherman posted:Uhhh what? I think you mean the country was built by men of vision who performed hitherto-unseen levels of hard work and single-handedly created the economy with no help from anyone else whatsoever. There's only like 3 or 4 of them but basically everyone else is leeching off them. I guess you could say the economy took off in spite of all those things you mentioned. Men of vision envisioning hitherto unseen amounts of hard work from their underlings and their spouses joining the workplace for the first time.
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Jun 28, 2014 01:29
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Weatherman posted:Uhhh what? I think you mean the country was built by men of vision who performed hitherto-unseen levels of hard work and single-handedly created the economy with no help from anyone else whatsoever. There's only like 3 or 4 of them but basically everyone else is leeching off them. I guess you could say the economy took off in spite of all those things you mentioned. A man chooses, a poor obeys!
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Jun 28, 2014 05:25
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Debate Disco is leaking.
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So, first post about my job. I work for the feds so in some ways my job is so much safer than everyone else's and I'm so sorry for people like Sundae. So we have an engineering division of sorts, basically doing consulting for big projects to keep them from going tits-up. We're all pretty autonomous since there's more work than people, but we do occasionally get assigned big-ticket items from supervisors if it's really critical. Lately though we've been told that the fact that we don't log our project hours really closely (we're sort of at the mercy of other people's schedules so our work time looks absolutely insane with us jumping from one thing to another, back again, projects on hold for half a year, etc. So we've basically been suggested to have procedures for every loving thing. Standardizing reports, formal calc check documentation (laughable for the cases where we have only one expert on staff in a subject, he now has to get an exemption for every calc he does). It's aggravating, but the bugs are being worked out over time. The only loving thing that's been insane is a pilot program to have us create logic charts for each of our reviews of engineering projects, so we can justify to outside people how we think. The real killer for us has been pay and the problems that come with political appointees. Our token Conservative has been doing nothing but trying to undermine us, like telling interns how much better they'd have it if they didn't accept an offer from us and went to join the military, or requiring us to plan travel 6 months in advance when we only get 2-6 weeks notice for when we can travel to a jobsite. On top of that he's written numbers letters where every single member of the technical staff non-concurred. Normally the technical staff writes a paper, the appointees get briefed, offer their input, and then they write a cover letter for the public attached to the paper if it's voted and passed. Twice in two months he's written things that just barely squeaked by on votes, written entirely by him, that basically cause even the people we work with in other agencies/contractors to ask what the heck is going on. The biggest single change was a new performance appraisal system, which was meant to create greater accountability. The first thing they started saying was they can't have as many people with top rated scores because it "looks bad." So now on our 1-5 scale of rating 1 or 2 people per division get 5s (out of a dozen). Of the rest, half get 4s, and half get 3s. In government normally, 3 is what's considered a complete fuckup, and 4 is "okay." Obviously, the two people in each division with the highest exposure projects get the 5s, along with people who write the most reports. The people who do long-term projects, with super-long reports but far fewer a year or who resolve issues way early in a process without needing to document it get shafted, and it shows. I technically cannot be eligible for a 5 because one of the criteria is "works on projects outside his normal areas of expertise to blah blah blah." Of course, we have too few of my kind of engineer so I'm only working on my areas of expertise. A lot of others have the same issue. It's aggravating. On top of that, we had the budget squeeze with everyone else last year and the economy picking up is causing a big brain-drain. Our admin staff have almost entirely turned over because they're being headhunted aggressively by big agencies offering $12k/year more. But certain engineers are starting to leave, mostly younger staff who want to spin the roulette wheel and get better jobs. This has happened in the past, about half come back because the private industry chews you up and spits you out on work/life balance. For me, it's been mostly bad timing. I've had only locality adjustments and a 1% raise since getting back. I'm supporting someone right now and cost of living for two on my income is tight, but I'm managing. I did get repayment on my Masters degree for 3 years of service so I've got two more years here. Still, with management changing, people jumping ship, and no management in my field of expertise who understand what I'm doing I'm feeling more and more like I'm being set up for failure. End of rant, but drat I'm sometimes aggravated that such an efficient little government operation is getting shitted on at the cost of good work for the public.
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I start as a contractor next Monday for a rival company to my old company. I get paid hourly at a higher rate than my old job and get time and a half OT for ANY overtime worked. Suck it, salaried exempt. I'm sure there'll be something to balance out that good tidbit but for now 
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Jul 5, 2014 23:38
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Coworker is going on maternity soon, so I'll be taking over some of her duties. Naturally, I'm looking for any way possible to streamline the process because my job already takes up all my time. "You know if you enter the sales order first, it can automatically generate the purchase order?" "But we enter the purchase order first, THEN the sales order!" "...Right, but if you enter the sales order first, the program saves you the trouble of entering the purchase order AND the sales order manually." "Oh, we don't actually know how the software works. That will probably save a LOT of time!!"  The software has been in use for ten years. No one has bothered to skim the manual or google around. So guess what I'm doing this weekend...
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Jul 5, 2014 23:47
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ladyweapon posted:Why would anyone ever use text speak in a business email? Is typing "plz" that much faster? I got this from a state regulator of radiological materials for a federal agency along with "thx" after sending him some detailed analysis of what he has in his state. Just let the whole of that sink in for a bit.
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ladyweapon posted:Coworker is going on maternity soon, so I'll be taking over some of her duties. Naturally, I'm looking for any way possible to streamline the process because my job already takes up all my time. It always amazes me how much people don't get computers or software. And just the basic stuff like how to save a file. We always end up with things like "Copy of..." or "Copy of copy of...". And then I have to sound like a raging rear end in a top hat for saying things like "Of course you can't open that spreadsheet, you meathead! I had it open, you hit switch user, logged in and tried to open it again." It's 2014 and some of them still get stymied by email. Motherfuckin email 
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Jul 6, 2014 19:42
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I understand that out of older people... to a point. Some people actively avoid learning it because "Newfangled technology!!  " It just feels weird out of people my age.
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I heart bacon posted:Some people actively avoid learning it A co-worker I've been patiently hand-holding through some of the most basic computer functions still doesn't get it, after 20 years. Why? Because why bother learning it when all she has to do is whine that she doesn't know how, and I'll have to do it for her. Seriously, when I tell her to save something to her desktop she still looks at me like I'm speaking to her in Mandarin.
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We had someone try to print a document for fifteen minutes, then start screaming at the heaven and demanding someone call tech support. Printer was out of paper. I wish I was kidding,
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Oh Christ, tech support and corporate. There are various levels of Stupid. I work with clinicians who have Master's degrees, and only about half of them are any good at computing. My favorite is one therapist who insists he is only comfortable using Word Perfect, and since that is no longer around he can only use Word Pad. He'll type a rough draft, print it out, hand it to me and ask me to type it for him since he cannot comprehend things like Email and Shared Drives. My boss: "How did you learn to type so fast?" "Uh, cuz I taught myself to type when I was six?" "So how can I learn how to type fast?" I wanted to tell him "you can't," because he does not have an iota of patience, but I told him to look online for a free course. "On the Google?" "Yes." There's another frequent flyer to whom I have to give credit for trying really hard considering she is older but wants to learn to do it herself. But the other day she told me she couldn't find a document saved to a shared drive. I looked, and the parent folder was missing. I thought for a minute and said "Maureen? Did you accidentally erase the [name] folder?" She gave her naughty yet somehow endearing smile and said she somehow thinks that maybe she did that. "And it said 'are you sure you want to delete?'" "Yeah, I think it said something that, and I hit okay!" Thank god we are blessed with chill IT people, and thank god IT is not my main job.
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I've found an entire copy of a departments directory in a sub-directory named junk at the bottom most possible folder of their file system hierarchy. This of course included another separate copy of said departments file system from approximately a year ago. Recursion, the gently caress is that!?
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Jul 7, 2014 04:00
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Had to take five minutes to remotely walk somebody through taking a screenshot the other day. Took another person to come over to her desk before we finally got it. I think you should have to re-interview for your job every 3-5 years.
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Cup of Hemlock posted:Had to take five minutes to remotely walk somebody through taking a screenshot the other day. Took another person to come over to her desk before we finally got it. I honestly don't understand why it's not normal interviewing practice to sit someone in front of a computer and tell them to turn it on, then type a paragraph out in word. My boss keeps dumping temps on me to train, and you know there's a problem when I have hopes one will be good when they meet my rigid criteria of "Knows how to Copy/Paste." The worst part is that I've had more misses than hits. The last one got hired because he claimed to have a CCNA. Yeah well maybe there's a reason he has a CCNA yet the best he could do is as a temp here.
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Once I did a password reset for a vice president at a fortune like... 50 company and she set her password as her company name followed by the number 1  So glad my new job is at a place with like... 60 people max.
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definitely never be the first person in your department to do something "fancy" in Excel....like graphs. You'll become the de facto Excel "expert."
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peter banana posted:definitely never be the first person in your department to do something "fancy" in Excel....like graphs. You'll become the de facto Excel "expert." See also Powerpoint. Our current "official" PPT template has a header with the organization logo that takes up about 25% of the slide. But then our official Word templates have something like 2" margin on each side, and the first page is about 30% logo. They were prepared externally, we paid a lot of money for them.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Once I did a password reset for a vice president at a fortune like... 50 company and she set her password as her company name followed by the number 1 A system we use like once per month has a password reset time of... 1 month. I've settled for 'nameyyyymm' as the password scheme for that poo poo heap of a site - gently caress the system. 
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Threadkiller Dog posted:A system we use like once per month has a password reset time of... 1 month. I can't decide what is worse. Everyone across the department uses a shared username/password for a whole bunch of systems. The vast majority of them have hilariously simple username passwords like username/password, or user/user. The ones that have legitimately good and secure authentication details has that info sitting in a text file in a million folders on the network drive and on people's desktops. Of course, the solution is to not have everyone share login details but that's asking for a bit much.
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A couple of years ago our receptionist called me over because "every time I send an email two error messages pop up". After having her show me what was happening, it was Spellcheck not recognizing the company name and CEO's last name in our company-mandated email signature. It was like 2009 and she'd been working there a year and she didn't know what spellcheck was.
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peter banana posted:definitely never be the first person in your department to do something "fancy" in Excel....like graphs. You'll become the de facto Excel "expert." I manage a database at my current job. I had a guy in operations ask me for a giant information dump for a report he was working on. I sent him a bunch of unsoted data in an excel spreadsheet. He then grabbed me when I was walking by. "Can you send it to me again, but have the dates line up? I have some stuff from January, and then it jumps to March. Also, can you separate it into Deliveries and Returns?" I showed him the sort function in excel. He looked like I just performed witchcraft. This is a guy whose job involves using excel all day.
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I wonder if older coworkers think that all Millenials get taken aside and have a Matrix style implantation of basic Office functions into our lizards brains, instead of realizing it's just a skill that one can learn.
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At my second job, I made the mistake of mentioning that I've used Linux before and that I know my way around the command line. Congratulations, Volmarias, you're porting our flagship project to various flavors of Unix! You can use the previous versions as a guide, whose ported source code only exists on those particular machines. I wait what?The fun part was that a month later, they hired someone else who had Unix development experience. She was worse than I was, and probably paid twice as much 
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I hate when somebody sends you an email asking for something, then immediately calls you asking for the same thing. I can read the email, it's fine, I'm just not The Flash and it takes more than 3 seconds to process your request, doofus. Especially because I was away from my desk and the person called three times in a row And it's not even an important thing!!!
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The Berzerker posted:I hate when somebody sends you an email asking for something, then immediately calls you asking for the same thing. I can read the email, it's fine, I'm just not The Flash and it takes more than 3 seconds to process your request, doofus. I get the same thing from the guy who processes our contracts, except he somehow manages to time it so that right as I'm typing out my reply he calls. I tried waiting ten minutes, he still called when I was typing. Read and almost finished my response within thirty seconds, he still called. I'm starting to wonder if he's trolling me.
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