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Effectronica posted:Also poo poo-talking Chinua Achebe. End this man, end this hobby, burn all nerds down.
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sebmojo posted:Mongoose Traveller is a superb translation, and it isn't too bad - you are best served making up a whole party of characters together though so you can run their development year by year and work out connections. It's basically a minigame. Yeah, and honestly it takes no longer that roll up a Traveller character than it does to comb through a 3.0 or beyond D&D/d20 book and put together a character. Also, if you really want, I'm pretty sure at least 2-3 character generation programs exist for every edition of traveller.
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TheSpookyDanger posted:You've never heard of the white man's burden? Only as a general expression, I had no idea it was an actual poem. Thanks for the link! Galaga Galaxian posted:Yeah, and honestly it takes no longer that roll up a Traveller character than it does to comb through a 3.0 or beyond D&D/d20 book and put together a character. Also, if you really want, I'm pretty sure at least 2-3 character generation programs exist for every edition of traveller. Half the fun of Traveller character creation is going back and forth between pages, though. Every mechanic you have to double-check adds a couple of seconds of tension that make all the difference, before you inevitably find out you've been fired from your character's third job, and now you're 60 and in debt and for all your efforts you get 100 credits and "a blade". Cyphoderus fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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That's a lot of trouble to play a self-insert.
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Syrg Sapphire posted:End this man, end this hobby, burn all nerds down. My response was identical to yours. How the gently caress are you going to poo poo talk the dude that wrote A Man Of The People, that book was great.
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Effectronica posted:If you read the thread he totally believes that the British Empire was a force for good and civilization. Not to the extent of a Niall Ferguson or a Dinesh D'Souza, but still. Also poo poo-talking Chinua Achebe. Flat out denying the post-colonialist literature movement is just about the whitest pseudo-intellectual thing you could possibly do besides waxing wroth about RPGs doing it wrong, I just didn't expect Pundit to do both.
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While enjoying my firework filled holiday weekend I realized that somewhere my stance on this subject was misunderstood. Perhaps because I'm a lovely poster. These are the things I feel you should do:
These are the things I feel you should not do:
Pointing out after the fact that lovely people were involved in a game that has already been established as bad is completely optional.
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Nobody's calling for boycotts, is the thing, and I'm not entirely sure where that's coming from-- I've seen that claim in a few places. There's people publically saying that they themselves are not buying it. There's people publically saying why they're not buying it. But no one is saying, no, you shouldn't buy this, these two consultants are bad. I'd rather if people didn't-- for reasons I've gone into elsewhere and don't really care to repeat here-- but poo poo, if someone decides to buy it even knowing who those guys are? gently caress. At least they know.
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Yeah, I've been pretty careful in the couple of places I've said it to stress that it's a personal position and don't judge people for buying Next and as far as I'm aware this is pretty much standard, that or "I'm still buying it, but drat that was a bad move hiring those morons"
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The amount of hate being directed at people literally for just not buying a thing is pretty amazing.
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I've heard some pretty passionate speeches about how this is hurting D&D and we should protect it. 
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there's a frighteningly large group of people who care more about the fortunes of a brand name than real, living, live people
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Jul 8, 2014 08:44
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B-but calling out harassment is very unprofessional and hurts my elfgames 
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Ettin posted:B-but calling out harassment is very unprofessional and hurts my elfgames Funny thing is that Zak is literally disproving this by using callouts as promotional material to sell his book. Or possibly that's the tragic thing, I can't decide.
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Jul 8, 2014 08:57
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I meant real elfgames. 
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Just so we're clear, real elfgames are the editions of D&D I like, other elfgames I play, and most games based on those games. Everything else is an elaborate illusion.
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Cynical, Manipulative Witch Hunter posted:Just so we're clear, real elfgames are the editions of D&D I like, other elfgames I play, and most games based on those games. Everything else is an elaborate illusion.
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Ettin posted:I meant real elfgames.
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grassy gnoll posted:Cynical, Manipulative Witch Hunter I promised myself I wasn't going to drop this drama bomb but I know for a fact Kevin Siembeda has a magical broomstick and uses it to fly around town making airplane noises.
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I'm pretty sure Ettin hasn't taken the feats required for that PrC. i mean it requires at least three levels of Shitlord
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potatocubed posted:Is it Talislanta? You are my new favorite
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potatocubed posted:Is it Talislanta? Isn't that the one with the playable race that's a walking polyp with lots of arms? e: no, wait, that's not it. What was that cult Aztec-inspired RPG? Cyphoderus fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Jul 8, 2014 13:49
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Winson_Paine posted:You are my new favorite 
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Cyphoderus posted:Isn't that the one with the playable race that's a walking polyp with lots of arms? Tekumel?
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BrainParasite posted:Tekumel? Ah, that's the one, yes. I've only ever leafed through it once, but the one thing I remember is there being a playable race of radially-simetric beings with many arms, legs, and heads.
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Ettin posted:Just so we're clear, real elfgames are the editions of D&D I like, other elfgames I play, and most games based on those games. Everything else is an elaborate illusion. And also Amber Diceless, because John Tarnowski has no self-consistency at all.
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Pundit is just really big on the GM being The Boss doling out the world and events to players, with the players having no control beyond the point of sword or spell, and Amber Diceless is essentially the ultimate game of the GM being The Boss. It's not really inconsistent, at least within his subjective framework.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Pundit is just really big on the GM being The Boss doling out the world and events to players, with the players having no control beyond the point of sword or spell, and Amber Diceless is essentially the ultimate game of the GM being The Boss. I've never understood this mindset. I mean, yeah, I like GMing because it's fun to direct the flow of the story and all, but if you wanted that strict of control over things, why not just write prose?
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Night10194 posted:I've never understood this mindset. I mean, yeah, I like GMing because it's fun to direct the flow of the story and all, but if you wanted that strict of control over things, why not just write prose? If they were just writing prose, nobody would read it. GMing implies a captive audience.
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There is an appeal of a facist sort to have complete control of some aspect of another human being's reality.
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Mr. Maltose posted:There is an appeal of a fascist sort to have complete control of some aspect of another human being's reality. Considering his political views and his rhetoric, this makes complete sense.~
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I really don't want to read his blog, but does the guy actually have any players who enjoy that style? Or is he entirely a theory-GM?
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Night10194 posted:I've never understood this mindset. I mean, yeah, I like GMing because it's fun to direct the flow of the story and all, but if you wanted that strict of control over things, why not just write prose?
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Sionak posted:I really don't want to read his blog, but does the guy actually have any players who enjoy that style? Or is he entirely a theory-GM? He lives in South America, I think? Maybe Paraguay? Apparently his usual group was basically introduced to roleplaying through him so they probably don't have much experience with swine games.
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Ewen Cluney posted:I think there's legitimately a place for games with a very strong GM role. It's just that that place is alongside many other types of games, and not a requirement for a game to be a "real" RPG. Off the top of my head I can name Paranoia as a game where the GM has a very strong role, and that's like half the charm of the game: the GM is not only the referee and arbitrator of the game's rules, they're also a stand-in for the very real authoritarian AI that is in charge of things in-setting. Paranoia also has a very thin separation between the setting and the rules of the game, where you can be punished for treason in-game for questioning the GMs rulings.
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Mr. Maltose posted:He lives in South America, I think? Maybe Paraguay? Uruguay.
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Sionak posted:I really don't want to read his blog, but does the guy actually have any players who enjoy that style? Or is he entirely a theory-GM?
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In all this talking about shitstains, we missed some important news: http://www.burningwheel.org/forum/showthread.php?14628-News-From-Lockhaven Mouse Guard is getting a second edition soon. 
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