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What was the Implicit Maze anyway? Something about guild gates or some other thing?
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Jul 8, 2014 07:26
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Lottery of Babylon posted:For example, Teysa's meant to be the Orzhov champion running around the "maze" for them, right? But on her card she's clearly just lounging in a chair in a room somewhere. RTR block flavor is the absolute worst 
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Jul 8, 2014 07:26
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Stinky Pit posted:What is modern Affinity going to cut? Memnite? Cranial Plating? This card is cool but its not all upside and is not an auto-include in a deck like Affinity. Yeah I'm gonna try cutting 2x memnites for it. We'll see how it works out.  at suggesting cranial plating should be cut. You say that sideboards are going to change with the metagame...but that the new artifacts they'll print won't be remotely dangerous enough to make an impact? Uh? I'm saying right now, and for the few weeks after prerelease people won't be running any artifact hate unless one of the decks top 8's immediately. That's enough time to sneak in, get some store credit, and switch back before people side in naturalize.
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Jul 8, 2014 07:31
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Ramos posted:What was the Implicit Maze anyway? Something about guild gates or some other thing? Apparently it's a maze that connects all ten guildgates. But, like, it's not exactly a physical maze like the Cretian labyrinth, it's melded in with the city and looks like normal streets unless you know what clues to look for or something, and you become king of the world if you can reach every guildgate. Basically, Mortimer posted:the maze was dumb as poo poo
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Jul 8, 2014 07:42
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Just split 1st at a 24-man Monday Night Standard playing Mono-U. The deck is pretty fun to pilot, and definitely requires a lot of skill in certain match-ups. I got lucky and didn't face any Control decks all night and my final opponent that I split with was Boss Sligh. We played it out for fun and he beat me in a super close Game 3 where all I needed was 2 devotion to get Thassa online for the win but I missed on both the scry and the draw. My favorite play for the night I think was T1 Cloudfin, he plays Legion Loyalist, T2 Island, Cloudfin, pass, he plays Ash Zealot and swings in with both, I Rapid one of the Cloudfins, evolving the other, block the Zealot with the Frog Lizard and the Loyalist with the Cloudfin, he scoops. 
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Jul 8, 2014 07:46
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The ending of RTR would have been a great blue card about Jace winning and thinking he's going to acquire great power but instead gets stuck with a desk job that he can never quit.
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Jul 8, 2014 07:49
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Mortimer posted:I'm saying right now, and for the few weeks after prerelease people won't be running any artifact hate unless one of the decks top 8's immediately. That's enough time to sneak in, get some store credit, and switch back before people side in naturalize. I mean cool I guess? When someone asked for thoughts on Ensoul Artifact I gave my thoughts about the card's viability in the meta-game as a whole for the duration of it's standard legality, given what we currently know and could reasonably expect. How the card might fare for you, for a couple of weeks at your local FNM is a very different topic and my evaluation of the card would be very different in that context. Go nuts, I'm sure it would be fun at least, you might win some packs. but as far as the wider post rotation meta-game is concerned I still don't believe an artifact deck with Ensoul will be a serious player.
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Jul 8, 2014 07:53
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Chill la Chill posted:A plane where nothing changed due to things like null rods and lodestone golems would be interesting and own Okay, I agree, this would be awesome. Attorney at Funk posted:Well, it's a lot easier than designing one where things happen, particularly when you're actually just building off a world you already made that was hugely popular. "hey elspeth go kill polukranos and become the suns champion and then kill Xenagos" "No thanks. Bye." "Hey Phyrexia go take over mirrordin!" "Nah, we cool" "Hey Chandra go accidentally release the eldrazi" "I'm okay thanks, let's leave it as it is"
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Jul 8, 2014 08:18
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Ramos posted:What was the Implicit Maze anyway? Something about guild gates or some other thing? The Azorius guild founder put into place a contingency for the Guildpact being broken, all those ten thousand years before Feather/Teysa/Agrus from original Ravnica managed to wreck it. The contingency is the creation of mystical Maze based on Ravnica's abundant leylines, running between the Guildgates of the guildhouses in Ravnica's Ten District. Assuming representatives of all the guilds follow the line of the maze, come through unmurdered by the guilds whose lands they're trespassing on, and are judged by a sort of ghostly telepathic steward Azorius left behind to have understood co-operation and the reasons for a Guildpact, Azorius' magic can re-instate it. That's not awful as Magic plotlines go. Leylines were set up in original Ravnica block (in the Guildpact set even); the idea of the Azorius founder anticipating the Guildpact breaking is pretty sensible; the Azorius had a fondness for labyrinths in old Ravnica as part of their stifling bureaucracy flavour and even put one in their guild symbol: I basically buy it all. The awful part, at least to me, is that this whole stupid thing is designed to go off without the Maze runners knowing that any of this is the case. Practically everyone thinks "Oh, a confluence of leylines that get activated if you go the right way - sounds like I can get power out of it". This is not the way to get people thinking about co-operation and working together again. What's more, the result of the steward finding the runners aren't fit to recreate the Guildpact is the entire 10th District getting Supreme Verdicted. Which, aside from mass murder of civilians and collective punishment being war crimes, is a really stupid way to manage things. When you blackmail someone into doing something, you clearly state your threat and what they need to do to stop you carrying it out. You don't stalk them until they walk into a shop, then shoot their children in front of them when they come out because they didn't rob it when you never told them they were meant to rob it. It's the most absurd and cack-handed way of creating tension for the finale, and I have no idea why Beyer derailed a half-decent overall plot that way. Oh, and the Dimir managed to go two for two in having their guild leaders be the worst kind of cackling Black psychos over the Ravnica blocks. Lazav wants the Verdict to go off, for no reason explained beyond "LOL PEOPLE DIE". Sleep of Bronze fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Jul 8, 2014 08:43
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Mezzanon posted:"hey elspeth go kill polukranos and become the suns champion and then kill Xenagos" At least two of these would've been unambiguously good ideas!
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Jul 8, 2014 08:44
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Chill la Chill posted:A plane where nothing changed due to things like null rods and lodestone golems would be interesting and own EDIT: Kill Switch reprint with a monument to Arcum Dagsson, crossing his arms and looking angry. mango sentinel fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Jul 8, 2014 09:09
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The plane where vintage Stax players like to chill out.
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Jul 8, 2014 09:49
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Awesome Andy posted:The ending of RTR would have been a great blue card about Jace winning and thinking he's going to acquire great power but instead gets stuck with a desk job that he can never quit.  I really need to simplify that card. Ramos fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Jul 8, 2014 09:50
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No, making it unnecessarily complicated and bureaucratic fits.
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Jul 8, 2014 09:59
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Such a wasted opportunity for filibuster counters.
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Jul 8, 2014 10:04
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Awesome Andy posted:The ending of RTR would have been a great blue card about Jace winning and thinking he's going to acquire great power but instead gets stuck with a desk job that he can never quit. What do you think 'Jace is the living guildpact' means?
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Jul 8, 2014 10:17
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Bread Set Jettison posted:What do you think 'Jace is the living guildpact' means?
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Jul 8, 2014 10:22
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Can anyone recommend a EU based store that'll ship to the US? MCM won't have me, and all I want are some German cards
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Jul 8, 2014 10:25
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Ramos posted:I really need to simplify that card. You win in 5 turns because you can just put counters on the same creature, unless someone has removal for that creature. Only, if someone uses a Wrath you can't counter, you lose.
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Jul 8, 2014 10:30
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endlessmonotony posted:You win in 5 turns because you can just put counters on the same creature, unless someone has removal for that creature. Only, if someone uses a Wrath you can't counter, you lose. "if five or more creatures have appeasement counters" You need to put counters on different creatures.
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Jul 8, 2014 10:31
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JohnnyTreachery posted:Can anyone recommend a EU based store that'll ship to the US? MCM won't have me, and all I want are some German cards I've used magic madhouse a couple times and they're not bad but idk if they do german cards
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Jul 8, 2014 10:35
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Also, if someone sweeps the board, it doesn't matter, because then the ability will have no legal targets and thus won't even go on the stack.
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Jul 8, 2014 10:52
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Basically, Jace won the race without competing and became a contract or whatever is what we got to finish the Ravnica story, instead of the actually interesting thing they started with Teysa and Tajic conspiring against the Obzedat.
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Jul 8, 2014 11:52
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JohnnyTreachery posted:Can anyone recommend a EU based store that'll ship to the US? MCM won't have me, and all I want are some German cards You could try magiccardmarket.eu? It depends on the individual seller if they want to ship to the US however.
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Jul 8, 2014 12:17
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Don't mess with that Ensoul Artifact spell in Modern Affinity. Unless you drastically change the mana having it available early isn't going to be a guarantee and spending two cards to make a 5/5 is going to feel terrible when it just gets hit with a Path to Exile. Modern Affinity is one of the better game one decks in the format and you don't want to be screwing around with conditional 5/5s you might not be able to cast ever.
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Jul 8, 2014 12:29
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Jabor posted:Also, if someone sweeps the board, it doesn't matter, because then the ability will have no legal targets and thus won't even go on the stack. flash creatures?
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Jul 8, 2014 12:47
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I wholly expect a U/R artifact deck to make waves if only for the fact that you can Mana Charger in a hasty turn 4 Scuttling Doom Engine.
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Jul 8, 2014 13:00
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It seems insane to me that Merchant Scroll sees no play in modern. What are some good targets other than Gifts and Revelation?
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Jul 8, 2014 14:16
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Spiderdrake posted:Did you know she's nearly a cripple? She has a hosed up leg and walks with a cane. Don't worry, she found someone to help her out:   ^2
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Jul 8, 2014 14:22
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AlsoD posted:It seems insane to me that Merchant Scroll sees no play in modern. What are some good targets other than Gifts and Revelation? There are no blue silver bullet instant, which would be the only thing really worth tutoring for. If you could tutor for scapeshift or grapeshot, sure storm or scapeshift would run those instead of a dig spell. Merchant Scroll would take the place of a card draw spell in most decks, but given how limited it is to what it can get, it doesn't see any play. If it could get any instant or sorcery, for 1U sure, it would be quite good. Control would run it over think twice if they could tutor up a bolt or path when they needed it, but being limited to a counterspell when you might need removal, it just isn't good enough. You'd never tutor for Revelation, why would you put a tutor for a draw spell in a deck when it could just be a draw spell.
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Jul 8, 2014 15:10
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I never even realized it was Modern-legal. I'm used to thinking of it as a card that only exists in High Tide.
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Jul 8, 2014 15:28
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If it could tutor for Angel's Grace or Ad Nauseam, that deck would run it over Peer Through Depths.
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Jul 8, 2014 15:29
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bhsman posted:If it could tutor for Angel's Grace or Ad Nauseam, that deck would run it over Peer Through Depths. Right. A tutor has to find a silver bullet, basically the card that makes a combo engine go off etc. It isn't good enough to just go tutor a counterspell or draw spell, which is pretty much what all blue instants are in modern.
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Jul 8, 2014 15:36
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jassi007 posted:Right. A tutor has to find a silver bullet, basically the card that makes a combo engine go off etc. It isn't good enough to just go tutor a counterspell or draw spell, which is pretty much what all blue instants are in modern. Yeah, though in fairness a Scroll could tutor for Negation Pact for Ad Nauseam instead of paying 1UU for transmuting Tolaria West, though that can be used as mana or a Boseiju Tutor in a pinch...
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Jul 8, 2014 15:45
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Do you know what are better than Ensoul Artifact for Affinity and don't see play? Shrapnel Blast. Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas. Case Closed. If you think a turn 2 5/5 is relevant and worth spending 2 cards on, you might as well be playing bogles. You could also save yourself a card and play zoo or jund. Zoness fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Jul 8, 2014 15:46
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Zoness posted:Do you know what are better than Ensoul Artifact for Affinity and don't see play? Neither of those things turns a Darksteel Citadel/Springleaf Drum/Mox Opal into a 5/5 for 2 mana. You seem very excited that people shouldn't play cards you don't like.
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Jul 8, 2014 15:56
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LordSaturn posted:Neither of those things turns a Darksteel Citadel/Springleaf Drum/Mox Opal into a 5/5 for 2 mana. You seem very excited that people shouldn't play cards you don't like. look i know that a 5/5 for two mana sounds like a really good deal to you but 2 drops in modern affinity have a much higher standard. Arcbound ravager and cranial plating are much, much stronger than a measly 5/5.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:02
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Zoness posted:Do you know what are better than Ensoul Artifact for Affinity and don't see play? Just for you I'm going to run a copy or two and top 8 with my t1 5/5 ensouled thopter. Yes I get that it doesn't seem good, but modern affinity is cargo cult deckbuilding at this point. This thread is bad at card evaluation.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:03
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Not everybody has to be a Spike playing only the best possible cards. Some people enjoy doing "stupid" things.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:12
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So what color is everyone getting at the prerelease? I'm thinking either red (I want to cast a generator servant) or black (the best promo).
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